I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
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molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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David Moore
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 9:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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Hey Molly, That’s pretty cool! Haven’t tried out the laptop layout yet, but glad I have a Bluetooth keyboard to test this out! Merry Christmas!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 4:13 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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molly the blind tech lover
Hi. Happy holidays. I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 2:17 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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molly the blind tech lover
Hello. Happy holidays.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Keao Wright
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 3:34 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hey Molly, That’s pretty cool! Haven’t tried out the laptop layout yet, but glad I have a Bluetooth keyboard to test this out! Merry Christmas!
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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Hi, One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:09 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hi. Happy holidays. I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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Gene
However, there are times when screen review
provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use. Object
navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object
navigation Hi, One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Hi. Happy holidays. I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Moore
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly
the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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Gene
I should also remind people that if you use screen
review, you should always remember to set NVDA back to object review
afterwards. If you don't, some methods of moving won't work as
expected.
Gene
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From: Gene via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object
navigation However, there are times when screen review
provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use. Object
navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object
navigation Hi, One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Hi. Happy holidays. I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Moore
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly
the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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Hi, As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use. Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hi, One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Hi. Happy holidays. I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Moore
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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Gene
I don't use apps because I don't use versions of
Windows newer than Windows 7. But in standard applications, screen review,
the equivalent of the JAWS cursor, can be more convenient and intuitive. I
don't know how many people following this thread use screen review but I think
they both should be known.
Screen review is very easy to explain in terms of
how you switch to it and use it and I will discuss it if people want to
know.
Gene
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Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object
navigation Hi, As I said multiple times before, screen review won’t work in newer apps, but I do agree that in some cases, screen review is helpful for some tasks. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Gene
However, there are times when screen review provides access to the same things and is more convenient to use. Object navigation can provide access to things at times that screen review can't.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hi, One important thing to remember: I recommend using object navigation for cases where you can’t navigate with a keyboard. Object navigation commands (and for that matter, Golden Cursor add-on) won’t replace the value of using keyboard commands (let’s not go into Golden Cursor add-on, as it is way different than object navigation). Part of what makes NvDA useful (or for that matter, any screen reader useful) is distinguishing when different methods are appropriate. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
molly the blind tech lover
Hi. Happy holidays. I’ve not tried the golden cursor yet, but it sounds interesting. My goal is to be able to use object navigation in all my favorite apps, word, outlook, etc. It’ll probably make navigating them much easier. It really is neat.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
David Moore
Yes! That is why I love NVDA so much! You can get to every element on the screen whether it be a toolbar, a button on the toolbar, or what ever! It is beautiful to have the Golden cursor add-on to navigate with the mouse as well! Go NVDA! Have a great holiday everyone!
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly
the blind tech lover
Hey guys, Molly here again. I just like to say that I really like Nvda’s way of navigating objects. It is great to be able to press Nvda plus shift and the arrow keys to explore items on the screen I never thought were there. I am fascinated by how it works. It actually reminds me of how VoiceOver works on the Mac, but I don’t want to get in to that. Anyway, it’s very cool. Happy Holidays
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I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me.
On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys? What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me. On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Molly,
I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.
Rosemarie
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 9:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hey guys? What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me. On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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Gene, please discuss it. I, for one, some of us do not know.
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On 12/25/18, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Molly,
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molly the blind tech lover
Hi. I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 12:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hi, Molly,
I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys? What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me. On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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Rosemarie Chavarria
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 4:02 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Hi. I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Molly,
I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys? What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me. On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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Hi all, For anyone wishing to write a tutorial or two on review modes, I highly recommend going over what review cursor is, how it works and how it can be used before talking about three different review modes/scopes (object, document, screen). Also, please don’t tell people that screen review can be used everywhere – I and others have given countless proofs to the contrary. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 6:52 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
I’ll try checking the user guide too.
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From: molly the blind tech lover
Hi. I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Molly,
I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly the blind tech lover
Hey guys? What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me. On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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Robert Mendoza
Speaking of I dig around in the Users guide about screen review.
I found this here is the snippets below. 5.6.3. Screen Review The screen review mode allows you to review the text of the
screen as it appears visually within the current application. This
is similar to the screen review or mouse cursor functionality in
many other Windows screen readers.
My question is how do you run with this screen review? Care to
share how to give details for it. Thanks!
On 12/26/2018 10:51 AM, Rosemarie
Chavarria wrote:
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Hi, Audio example: https://www.josephsl.net/files/nvda18/3/nvda_tutorial_3%20(review%20modes).mp3 Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Mendoza
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 7:07 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object navigation
Speaking of I dig around in the Users guide about screen review. I found this here is the snippets below. 5.6.3. Screen Review The screen review mode allows you to review the text of the screen as it appears visually within the current application. This is similar to the screen review or mouse cursor functionality in many other Windows screen readers.
My question is how do you run with this screen review? Care to share how to give details for it. Thanks! On 12/26/2018 10:51 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
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Gene
It can't be used everywhere but there are times
when it is the most easy and intuitive way to move around a screen. I may
write some information about review mode tomorrow. I don't think it will
require much explanation. I don't know what Lee already wrote about it in
the tutorial he did. I may see if I have it and give the topic for people
to listen to.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I am really loving Nvda's object
navigation Hi all, For anyone wishing to write a tutorial or two on review modes, I highly recommend going over what review cursor is, how it works and how it can be used before talking about three different review modes/scopes (object, document, screen). Also, please don’t tell people that screen review can be used everywhere – I and others have given countless proofs to the contrary. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
I’ll try checking the user guide too.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly
the blind tech lover
Hi. I’ll have to try screen review. Although I must to admit, I don’t know how to use it. I’ll check out the Nvda user guide.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Molly,
I think screen review is a way to get around the screen when you can’t do it with just regular keystrokes.
Rosemarie
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: molly
the blind tech lover
Hey guys? What is screen review? I’ve never heard of it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Sarah k Alawami
I never use screen review, I alwyas use object nav as for me I can get around and skip windows I don't want to see. the laptop layout even though I'm using a full sized keyboard as it just feels more like mac os for me. On 25 Dec 2018, at 7:11, Gene wrote:
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