Hi everyone, First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community. I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10. The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01). Additional notes: StationPlaylist Studio: - Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
- The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
- Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
- Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
- Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
- For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.
Windows 10 App Essentials: - Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
- Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.
Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
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Hi Joseph,
You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly
for several months now. I am wondering if the issue with weather
history will be improved. Sighted people say that when they click
on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box
opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that
month and other information. The same goes for rainfall and
snowfall. Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has
not changed. All we get is the monthly average with a button that
doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens.
Thanks for any help.
On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee
wrote:
Hi everyone,
First, for those celebrating it, hope your
New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great
year for the NVDA community.
I’m delighted to announce the release of
StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01.
StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters
using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and
Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved
usability of Windows 10.
The most important thing you’ll notice with
these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update
checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of
a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of
themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended
by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this
release, the ability to check for updated versions of these
add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these
add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after
installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a
message informing you of this change (for those using
StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after
installing add-on 19.01).
Additional notes:
StationPlaylist Studio:
- Version 19.01 isn’t the only
release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm
channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS.
Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update
check warning.
- The source code that powers
standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02;
it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in
the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone
wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility
came to be.
- Version 19.01 (for LTS people,
18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one
is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
- Today’s releases require NVDA
2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11,
whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
- Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version
will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give
you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
- For those on longterm (LTS)
channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance
versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After
NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter
bug fix only mode.
Windows 10 App Essentials:
- Version 19.01.x is the last
release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall
Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require
Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
- Although this release supports
expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview
build, things can change without notice.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Hi, When I go to Historical weather tab and select temperature, then press Tab to move around, each month button is labeled with high, low and other information. When one presses Enter to activate the button, the stats do change on screen but isn’t announced by Narrator nor NVDA. When I probe UIA event activities, it does allow NVDA to see that name change took place, but it is done on a per item basis – for example, for January, one of the name change text is just the year (2017) instead of a more meaningful summary. Because it is known that property change events may happen out of order (observed multiple times with live region change events in some universal apps), I’m a bit hesitant as to how to proceed with providing a meaningful fix for you. Sorry about that. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 5:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease Hi Joseph, You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several months now. I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be improved. Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that month and other information. The same goes for rainfall and snowfall. Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has not changed. All we get is the monthly average with a button that doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens. Thanks for any help. On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi everyone, First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community. I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10. The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01). Additional notes: StationPlaylist Studio: - Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
- The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
- Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
- Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
- Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
- For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.
Windows 10 App Essentials: - Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
- Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.
Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Hi, One major clarification: my statement regarding “not providing a meaningful fix” should not be taken as an indication that I’m giving up. In the past, I’ve been known for seemingly forgetting an issue, only to come back to it months later. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease Hi, When I go to Historical weather tab and select temperature, then press Tab to move around, each month button is labeled with high, low and other information. When one presses Enter to activate the button, the stats do change on screen but isn’t announced by Narrator nor NVDA. When I probe UIA event activities, it does allow NVDA to see that name change took place, but it is done on a per item basis – for example, for January, one of the name change text is just the year (2017) instead of a more meaningful summary. Because it is known that property change events may happen out of order (observed multiple times with live region change events in some universal apps), I’m a bit hesitant as to how to proceed with providing a meaningful fix for you. Sorry about that. Cheers, Joseph Hi Joseph, You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several months now. I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be improved. Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that month and other information. The same goes for rainfall and snowfall. Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has not changed. All we get is the monthly average with a button that doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens. Thanks for any help. On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi everyone, First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community. I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10. The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01). Additional notes: StationPlaylist Studio: - Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
- The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
- Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
- Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
- Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
- For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.
Windows 10 App Essentials: - Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
- Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.
Thank you. Cheers, Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Half the issue here seems to be the way Microsoft seem to work. They do not seem to have any clear, laid out plan. Its a bit like everyone is working in little silos and incorporating little features changes and ideas in isolation surprising the accessibility community. They should really have a road map as the trendy say these days. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease Hi,
One major clarification: my statement regarding "not providing a meaningful fix" should not be taken as an indication that I'm giving up. In the past, I've been known for seemingly forgetting an issue, only to come back to it months later.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease
Hi,
When I go to Historical weather tab and select temperature, then press Tab to move around, each month button is labeled with high, low and other information. When one presses Enter to activate the button, the stats do change on screen but isn't announced by Narrator nor NVDA. When I probe UIA event activities, it does allow NVDA to see that name change took place, but it is done on a per item basis - for example, for January, one of the name change text is just the year (2017) instead of a more meaningful summary. Because it is known that property change events may happen out of order (observed multiple times with live region change events in some universal apps), I'm a bit hesitant as to how to proceed with providing a meaningful fix for you.
Sorry about that.
Cheers,
Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 5:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease
Hi Joseph,
You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several months now. I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be improved. Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that month and other information. The same goes for rainfall and snowfall. Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has not changed. All we get is the monthly average with a button that doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens.
Thanks for any help.
On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi everyone,
First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year's Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community.
I'm delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10.
The most important thing you'll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you'll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01).
Additional notes:
StationPlaylist Studio:
* Version 19.01 isn't the only release today - if you're using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you'll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning. * The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it'll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater's update check facility came to be. * Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019). * Today's releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10. * Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I'll give you sixty days' notice before making the switch. * For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.
Windows 10 App Essentials:
* Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later. * Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.
Thank you.
Cheers,
Joseph
-- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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