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StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #addonrelease


 

Hi everyone,

 

First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community.

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10.

 

The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01).

 

Additional notes:

 

StationPlaylist Studio:

  • Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
  • The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
  • Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
  • Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
  • Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
  • For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials:

  • Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
  • Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Joseph,


You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several months now.  I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be improved.  Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that month and other information.  The same goes for rainfall and snowfall.  Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has not changed.  All we get is the monthly average with a button that doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens.


Thanks for any help.


On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community.

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10.

 

The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01).

 

Additional notes:

 

StationPlaylist Studio:

  • Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
  • The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
  • Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
  • Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
  • Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
  • For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials:

  • Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
  • Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


 

Hi,

When I go to Historical weather tab and select temperature, then press Tab to move around, each month button is labeled with high, low and other information. When one presses Enter to activate the button, the stats do change on screen but isn’t announced by Narrator nor NVDA. When I probe UIA event activities, it does allow NVDA to see that name change took place, but it is done on a per item basis – for example, for January, one of the name change text is just the year (2017) instead of a more meaningful summary. Because it is known that property change events may happen out of order (observed multiple times with live region change events in some universal apps), I’m a bit hesitant as to how to proceed with providing a meaningful fix for you.

Sorry about that.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease

 

Hi Joseph,

 

You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several months now.  I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be improved.  Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that month and other information.  The same goes for rainfall and snowfall.  Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has not changed.  All we get is the monthly average with a button that doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community.

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10.

 

The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01).

 

Additional notes:

 

StationPlaylist Studio:

  • Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
  • The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
  • Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
  • Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
  • Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
  • For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials:

  • Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
  • Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


 

Hi,

One major clarification: my statement regarding “not providing a meaningful fix” should not be taken as an indication that I’m giving up. In the past, I’ve been known for seemingly forgetting an issue, only to come back to it months later.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease

 

Hi,

When I go to Historical weather tab and select temperature, then press Tab to move around, each month button is labeled with high, low and other information. When one presses Enter to activate the button, the stats do change on screen but isn’t announced by Narrator nor NVDA. When I probe UIA event activities, it does allow NVDA to see that name change took place, but it is done on a per item basis – for example, for January, one of the name change text is just the year (2017) instead of a more meaningful summary. Because it is known that property change events may happen out of order (observed multiple times with live region change events in some universal apps), I’m a bit hesitant as to how to proceed with providing a meaningful fix for you.

Sorry about that.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are on their way #AddonRelease

 

Hi Joseph,

 

You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several months now.  I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be improved.  Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs and lows for every day within that month and other information.  The same goes for rainfall and snowfall.  Yet with all these incessant updates, this issue has not changed.  All we get is the monthly average with a button that doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens.

 

Thanks for any help.

 

On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,

 

First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year’s Day preparation is going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community.

 

I’m delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of Windows 10.

 

The most important thing you’ll notice with these releases is saying goodbye to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you’ll get a message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01).

 

Additional notes:

 

StationPlaylist Studio:

  • Version 19.01 isn’t the only release today – if you’re using 18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you’ll be asked to update to 18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update check warning.
  • The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be removed in 19.02; it’ll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn how Add-on Updater’s update check facility came to be.
  • Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March 2019).
  • Today’s releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio, 19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
  • Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio 5.20 or later. I’ll give you sixty days’ notice before making the switch.
  • For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported. After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode.

 

Windows 10 App Essentials:

  • Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
  • Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.

 

Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

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Hi,

One major clarification: my statement regarding "not providing a meaningful
fix" should not be taken as an indication that I'm giving up. In the past,
I've been known for seemingly forgetting an issue, only to come back to it
months later.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 6:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are
on their way #AddonRelease



Hi,

When I go to Historical weather tab and select temperature, then press Tab
to move around, each month button is labeled with high, low and other
information. When one presses Enter to activate the button, the stats do
change on screen but isn't announced by Narrator nor NVDA. When I probe UIA
event activities, it does allow NVDA to see that name change took place, but
it is done on a per item basis - for example, for January, one of the name
change text is just the year (2017) instead of a more meaningful summary.
Because it is known that property change events may happen out of order
(observed multiple times with live region change events in some universal
apps), I'm a bit hesitant as to how to proceed with providing a meaningful
fix for you.

Sorry about that.

Cheers,

Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 5:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials 19.01 are
on their way #AddonRelease



Hi Joseph,



You keep updating the Windows Ten App essentials almost monthly for several
months now. I am wondering if the issue with weather history will be
improved. Sighted people say that when they click on an item such as
temperature and then on a month, another box opens and they see the highs
and lows for every day within that month and other information. The same
goes for rainfall and snowfall. Yet with all these incessant updates, this
issue has not changed. All we get is the monthly average with a button that
doesn't activate anything or open any new boxes or screens.



Thanks for any help.



On 12/28/2018 2:38 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,



First, for those celebrating it, hope your New Year's Day preparation is
going well. May 2019 be a great year for the NVDA community.



I'm delighted to announce the release of StationPlaylist Studio and Windows
10 App Essentials 19.01. StationPlaylist Studio add-on is used to help
broadcasters using SPL suite of application with producing their shows, and
Windows 10 App Essentials is a must have add-on for improved usability of
Windows 10.



The most important thing you'll notice with these releases is saying goodbye
to standalone add-on update checks. Until Add-on Updater appeared, these two
were part of a handful of add-ons that can check for updated versions of
themselves. Now that Add-on Updater is stable and recommended by add-on
authors, I hereby announce that, starting from this release, the ability to
check for updated versions of these add-ons will be assumed by Add-on
Updater, not by these add-ons. As a consequence of this, when you restart
NVDA after installing these releases for the first time, you'll get a
message informing you of this change (for those using StationPlaylist
add-on, the first time you start Studio after installing add-on 19.01).



Additional notes:



StationPlaylist Studio:

* Version 19.01 isn't the only release today - if you're using
18.09.5-LTS (longterm channel) release, you'll be asked to update to
18.09.6-LTS. Just like 19.01, 18.09.6-LTS will also present add-on update
check warning.
* The source code that powers standalone add-on update checks will be
removed in 19.02; it'll be kept in 18.09.x series (although to be disabled
in the next LTS release) to serve as a reference for anyone wishing to learn
how Add-on Updater's update check facility came to be.
* Version 19.01 (for LTS people, 18.09.6-LTS) is first of two
mandatory updates (the next one is 19.02, and for LTS, 18.09.7 in March
2019).
* Today's releases require NVDA 2018.4 or later. In terms of Studio,
19.01 requires 5.11, whereas 18.09.6 will run happily on 5.10.
* Sometime in 2019, a 19.x version will ask you to update to studio
5.20 or later. I'll give you sixty days' notice before making the switch.
* For those on longterm (LTS) channel, 18.09.6 is one of the last
mainstream maintenance versions where features from 19.x can be backported.
After NVDA 2019.1 is released (later in 2019), 18.09.x will enter bug fix
only mode.



Windows 10 App Essentials:

* Version 19.01.x is the last release series to run on Windows 10
Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update/build 16299). Version 19.02 will require
Version 1803 (April 2018 Update/build 17134) or later.
* Although this release supports expanded input panel in latest
Windows Insider Preview build, things can change without notice.



Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"