how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Sam Bushman
 

What options do you have in goldwave under the options, control properties, device tab?
Thanks,
Sam

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To: nvda groups <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Gene
 

I'll send a link for a recorder that you can record as you wish.  But the program doesn't allow you to edit.  the program is very simple.  If you want to edit in the MP3 format, MP3 Direct Cut would be the program I would recommend.  If you want to record in another format, then editing in audacity would be what you might want to do.  There is a technical reason why editing an MP3 file is better done with MP3 Direct Cut and MP3 Direct Cut is the simplest MP3 editing program I know of.
 
I'll send the program tomorrow with a description of how to use it.
 
Gene

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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 10:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot
of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and
I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my
sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app
store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with
the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any
suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Gene
 

Goldwave isn't free and there is no reason to use it for simple recording and editing.  I'll look at the program I'm going to send tomorrow and make sure what the options are.  The options may be all you need.  Or, you may need to learn to change sound card settings to record using a line-in input.  But just what do you want to record?  Do you want to record from a physical radio or record a radio stream that is streaming online?  What sorts of other things do you want to record?
 
Gene

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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2019 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

What options do you have in goldwave under the options, control properties, device tab?
Thanks,
Sam
 

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Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card and record from it.

----- Original Message -----
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To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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hi gene.
thanks for your suggestion.
i also waite for your link, i need a free program which i can record
the voice of my computer and some of my audio files, specially i wish
to record my favorite books and articles with nvda!
thanks so much for any of your help, God bless you!

On 1/3/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a loopback

feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card and record from
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@juno.com>
To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in

sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I

did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to

get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would

be excellent. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Look up Virtual Recorder.
It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily, but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card and record from it.
----- Original Message -----
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To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
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If you have books and want them in an artificial voice but do not want to do it at the speed you read at. there is a program called Dspeech which can do this. It is basically a text editor and a routine that records the spoken file very very fast. I know there are other programs like this around and one issue is that there will be strange words and breaks in any file that make it sound slightly odd but you can for example download the sapi version of Espeak if you like that or use any other sapi voice.

However for capturing what you are doing or recording audio from youtube then I find virtual recorder is very good.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


hi gene.
thanks for your suggestion.
i also waite for your link, i need a free program which i can record
the voice of my computer and some of my audio files, specially i wish
to record my favorite books and articles with nvda!
thanks so much for any of your help, God bless you!

On 1/3/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a loopback

feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card and record from
it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@juno.com>
To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in

sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I

did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to

get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would

be excellent. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
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with all they contain
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I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
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Chris Mullins
 

Hi Sue
I think Virtual Recorder is one of the easiest recorders to use. I don't agree with Brian about having to edit the beginning and end of recordings. You can set up keyboard shortcuts with VR and have it running in the background. The Record and Stop shortcut keys sound a bleep when pressed so you know they are engaged and by temporarily switching NVDA into silent mode, with a bit of practice, you can get clean recordings.

As for stereo mix not showing in your Sound Card settings, I remember a while ago having my stereo mix disappear from the list of devices on the recording tab and after doing some googling, I found out that it can be disabled. Try checking in Device manager, Audio inputs and outputs and see if it is there and enabled.

Cheers
Chris

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Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Look up Virtual Recorder.
It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily,
but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid
of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
Brian

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To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in
sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I
did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to
get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would
be excellent. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
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Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

I am using audacity fine here with windows 10. You need to go to preferences, then arrow up/down to devices. tab and make sure your host is set to windows wasapi. tab once more and set your playback device to your speakers. tab for a third time and make sure the recording device is set using the loopback option, for example speakers loopback. then press OK. that should enable to you press R when in audacity and it will start recording. when you're finished, press space to stop then space again to start playback. works like a charm with the latest version of audacity.

cheers,

Mo.

On 04/01/2019 12:08, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi Sue
I think Virtual Recorder is one of the easiest recorders to use. I don't agree with Brian about having to edit the beginning and end of recordings. You can set up keyboard shortcuts with VR and have it running in the background. The Record and Stop shortcut keys sound a bleep when pressed so you know they are engaged and by temporarily switching NVDA into silent mode, with a bit of practice, you can get clean recordings.

As for stereo mix not showing in your Sound Card settings, I remember a while ago having my stereo mix disappear from the list of devices on the recording tab and after doing some googling, I found out that it can be disabled. Try checking in Device manager, Audio inputs and outputs and see if it is there and enabled.

Cheers
Chris


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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Look up Virtual Recorder.
It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily,
but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid
of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
Brian

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To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in
sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I
did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to
get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would
be excellent. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
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Giles Turnbull
 

I used to use Virtual Recorder but, for a reason I couldn't figure out, it stopped saving the recorded mp3s, so I switched to using Audacity and it works perfectly. The steps you need to do in audacity to get it to record the output of the soundcard rather than an inbuilt or external mic, are as Chris details above.

I use this method any time I want to capture audio that NVDA is saying.

Giles


Gene
 

People constantly recommend Goldwave whenever people ask about recording programs.  There are times the recommendation is a good or the best one, there are times when it isn't.  Based on what the person describes as what she wants to do, I think it is not a good recommendation. 
 
Gpold Wave isn't free and the program I will send a link to in this message is both free and simple.  It also has loop back.  It also has the option two use both loop back and a sound card simultaneously and it also allows for just sound card use. 
 
As I said, It is a very simple program.  Just tab around and set settings.  It remembers them.  You mainly use combo boxes to change settings.  I'm not sure just what the person wants to do, but to start with, use the loop back setting and see if that records what is desired. 
 
When I use it with NVDA, when I first run it, it announces everything you ca move to by tabbing around.  You can't stop this annoying speech.  When it stops speaking, tab around and the various items will read properly. 
 
I haven't used the program with Windows 10.  As far as I know, it works properly.  If it doesn't. let us know and I'll ask on a list where many people use it why that may be the case.  Perhaps a newer version is available.
 
The program is being sent as a zip file.  It is a portable program so no installation is done.  Unzip the files wherever you want, open the folder, type v to land on virtual recorder.exe and press enter.
A dialog will open.  Tab around, set anything you want to change, then the easiest thing to do is use the command alt r to start recording.  When you want to stop, be in the program window and use the command alt s for stop.  There is a record and a stop button and these are the short cut commands. 
 
You can't add to an existing file so if you want one single long file, just keep recording.  You can edit with MP3 Direct Cut if you are recording using the MP3 format.  If not, you can edit with another program.  But one thing at a ttime.  See if this program does what you want as far as recording is concerned.
 
You said something about recording using line in.  While you can use loopback for that, your soundcard may not be using the right settings for that and it would be much better for just line in recording to use your sound card.  That will require you to use the sound card setting in the recording program and set your sound card to record using the line-in jack. 
 
For now, see if the loop back records things like your screen-reader, a stream on the Internet, and if you want, a line-in recording, though, as I said, that probably isn't how you will want to record using line-in for reasons I'll discuss as things progress.
 
You will see, as you look through the files and folders that make up the program, a folder called recordings.  Files you record are located there.  Change the names as you wish using the change filename command in Windows.  You can't change where files are stored by the program.
 
Here is the link to download the program:
 
Gene
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Gene
 

I've seen one report and I worked with someone where the Audacity Loop Back didn't work and Virtual Recorder did.  This may be such a case.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi.

I am using audacity fine here with windows 10. You need to go to
preferences, then arrow up/down to devices. tab and make sure your host
is set to windows wasapi. tab once more and set your playback device to
your speakers. tab for a third time and make sure the recording device
is set using the loopback option, for example speakers loopback. then
press OK. that should enable to you press R when in audacity and it will
start recording. when you're finished, press space to stop then space
again to start playback. works like a charm with the latest version of
audacity.

cheers,

Mo.



On 04/01/2019 12:08, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Hi Sue
> I think Virtual Recorder is one of the easiest recorders to use.  I don't agree with Brian about having to edit the beginning and end of recordings.  You can set up keyboard shortcuts with VR and have it running in the background.  The Record and Stop shortcut keys sound a bleep when pressed so you know they are engaged and by temporarily switching NVDA into silent mode, with a bit of practice, you can get clean recordings.
>
> As for stereo mix not showing in your Sound Card settings, I remember a while ago having my stereo mix disappear from the list of devices on the recording tab and after doing some googling, I found out that it can be disabled.  Try checking in Device manager, Audio inputs and outputs and see if it is there and enabled.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: 4 January 2019 09:26
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.
>
> Look up Virtual Recorder.
>   It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily,
> but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid
> of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
>   Brian
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in
> sure could use some help.
>
>
>>   Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
>> NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
>> internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
>> audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
>> make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
>> want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
>> program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
>> wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I
>> did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
>> card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to
>> get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
>> jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would
>> be excellent. Thank you.
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
>> unhealthpublications.com
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc
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Roger Stewart
 

There is a free plug in for Winamp called Stream Ripper for Winamp. it is best run from the system tray as it's direct interface isn't accessible with nvda. At least tabbing around doesn't focus you on anything but in the system tray, if you do a right click, there will be a very accessible menu with obvious items like start ripping, stop ripping and settings.  Also, mp3 Direct Cut has a good recording function that will record from your soundcard line in. This one is free too and there's a good add on for nvda that makes it more functional.

Roger

On 1/3/2019 10:11 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
unhealthpublications.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc


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Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

What is this loopback function?  I've not heard of it in regard to recording software.

On 1/4/2019 10:25 AM, Gene wrote:

I've seen one report and I worked with someone where the Audacity Loop Back didn't work and Virtual Recorder did.  This may be such a case.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi.

I am using audacity fine here with windows 10. You need to go to
preferences, then arrow up/down to devices. tab and make sure your host
is set to windows wasapi. tab once more and set your playback device to
your speakers. tab for a third time and make sure the recording device
is set using the loopback option, for example speakers loopback. then
press OK. that should enable to you press R when in audacity and it will
start recording. when you're finished, press space to stop then space
again to start playback. works like a charm with the latest version of
audacity.

cheers,

Mo.



On 04/01/2019 12:08, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Hi Sue
> I think Virtual Recorder is one of the easiest recorders to use.  I don't agree with Brian about having to edit the beginning and end of recordings.  You can set up keyboard shortcuts with VR and have it running in the background.  The Record and Stop shortcut keys sound a bleep when pressed so you know they are engaged and by temporarily switching NVDA into silent mode, with a bit of practice, you can get clean recordings.
>
> As for stereo mix not showing in your Sound Card settings, I remember a while ago having my stereo mix disappear from the list of devices on the recording tab and after doing some googling, I found out that it can be disabled.  Try checking in Device manager, Audio inputs and outputs and see if it is there and enabled.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: 4 January 2019 09:26
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.
>
> Look up Virtual Recorder.
>   It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily,
> but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid
> of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
>   Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in
> sure could use some help.
>
>
>>   Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
>> NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
>> internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
>> audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
>> make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
>> want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
>> program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
>> wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I
>> did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
>> card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to
>> get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
>> jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would
>> be excellent. Thank you.
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
>> unhealthpublications.com
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc
>>
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Mobeen Iqbal
 

The loopback function taps in to the windows sound API to create a loopback between the input and the output. think of it as plugging a wire in to the microphone socket and the other end in to your speakers.

cheers,

Mo.



On 04/01/2019 21:21, Howard Traxler wrote:

What is this loopback function?  I've not heard of it in regard to recording software.

On 1/4/2019 10:25 AM, Gene wrote:

I've seen one report and I worked with someone where the Audacity Loop Back didn't work and Virtual Recorder did.  This may be such a case.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi.

I am using audacity fine here with windows 10. You need to go to
preferences, then arrow up/down to devices. tab and make sure your host
is set to windows wasapi. tab once more and set your playback device to
your speakers. tab for a third time and make sure the recording device
is set using the loopback option, for example speakers loopback. then
press OK. that should enable to you press R when in audacity and it will
start recording. when you're finished, press space to stop then space
again to start playback. works like a charm with the latest version of
audacity.

cheers,

Mo.



On 04/01/2019 12:08, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Hi Sue
> I think Virtual Recorder is one of the easiest recorders to use.  I don't agree with Brian about having to edit the beginning and end of recordings.  You can set up keyboard shortcuts with VR and have it running in the background.  The Record and Stop shortcut keys sound a bleep when pressed so you know they are engaged and by temporarily switching NVDA into silent mode, with a bit of practice, you can get clean recordings.
>
> As for stereo mix not showing in your Sound Card settings, I remember a while ago having my stereo mix disappear from the list of devices on the recording tab and after doing some googling, I found out that it can be disabled.  Try checking in Device manager, Audio inputs and outputs and see if it is there and enabled.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: 4 January 2019 09:26
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.
>
> Look up Virtual Recorder.
>   It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily,
> but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid
> of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
>   Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in
> sure could use some help.
>
>
>>   Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
>> NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
>> internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
>> audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
>> make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
>> want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
>> program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
>> wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I
>> did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
>> card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to
>> get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
>> jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would
>> be excellent. Thank you.
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
>> unhealthpublications.com
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc
>>
>>
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MAX <max@...>
 

Well, I'll bet lots of others are having the same problem but nobody wants to be the first. OK, I'll be that person. The virtual recorder install program didn't create an entry in the start menu or a desk top icon or an icon in the applications bar as mentioned in the readme file. I tried to start it with the command line but that has been changed and I don't know how to access it anymore. When I had it running after the installation I made a test recording but the directory where it said it put the recording doesn't show up in windows explorer. Maybe I should forget it and find another program.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a
loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card
and record from it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@juno.com>
To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic
plugged in sure could use some help.


Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a
lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have
tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user
guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets
just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my
computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of
total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do
have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section
and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used
sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work
with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or
maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
unhealthpublications.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc





Gene
 

Technically how it works will have to be discussed by others.  The effect is that it allows you to record what you hear your sound card play even if your sound card doesn't have such a feature.  It doesn't use your soundcard to record. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

What is this loopback function?  I've not heard of it in regard to recording software.

On 1/4/2019 10:25 AM, Gene wrote:

I've seen one report and I worked with someone where the Audacity Loop Back didn't work and Virtual Recorder did.  This may be such a case.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Hi.

I am using audacity fine here with windows 10. You need to go to
preferences, then arrow up/down to devices. tab and make sure your host
is set to windows wasapi. tab once more and set your playback device to
your speakers. tab for a third time and make sure the recording device
is set using the loopback option, for example speakers loopback. then
press OK. that should enable to you press R when in audacity and it will
start recording. when you're finished, press space to stop then space
again to start playback. works like a charm with the latest version of
audacity.

cheers,

Mo.



On 04/01/2019 12:08, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Hi Sue
> I think Virtual Recorder is one of the easiest recorders to use.  I don't agree with Brian about having to edit the beginning and end of recordings.  You can set up keyboard shortcuts with VR and have it running in the background.  The Record and Stop shortcut keys sound a bleep when pressed so you know they are engaged and by temporarily switching NVDA into silent mode, with a bit of practice, you can get clean recordings.
>
> As for stereo mix not showing in your Sound Card settings, I remember a while ago having my stereo mix disappear from the list of devices on the recording tab and after doing some googling, I found out that it can be disabled.  Try checking in Device manager, Audio inputs and outputs and see if it is there and enabled.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
> Sent: 4 January 2019 09:26
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.
>
> Look up Virtual Recorder.
>   It allows various sorts of recordings from inside the machine very easily,
> but of course at the end you will need to load it into an editor to get rid
> of the rubbish at the start and end as normal.
>   Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 4:11 AM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in
> sure could use some help.
>
>
>>   Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works with
>> NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a lot of
>> internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have tried
>> audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user guide to
>> make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets just say if I
>> want to record a radio station or anything from my computer what type of
>> program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of total recorder and gold
>> wave would those programs work since I do have everything up to date and I
>> did check in the recording section and I have no stereo mics on my sound
>> card. Have any of you used sound tap or any apps with in the app store to
>> get anything to work with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in
>> jack nothing. Or maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would
>> be excellent. Thank you.
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
>> unhealthpublications.com
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Gene
 

Try using the version I sent this morning.  It was developed by a blind user and it is fully accessible and requires no installation.  I assume the person went through the trouble to create the portable versions because there were some sort of problems using the installed version.
 
These versions, of which I hope I have the latest, were developed by Carlos, who ran another list and died about a year ago, which was a significant loss because of his help to the blind computer using community.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Well, I'll bet lots of others are having the same problem but nobody wants to be the first.  OK, I'll be that person.  The virtual recorder install program didn't create an entry in the start menu or a desk top icon or an icon in the applications bar as mentioned in the readme file.  I tried to start it with the command line but that has been changed and I don't know how to access it anymore.  When I had it running after the installation I made a test recording but the directory where it said it put the recording doesn't show up in windows explorer.  Maybe I should forget it and find another program.


73 (Regards).

Max K 4 O D S.

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 3:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.

Yes but virtual recorder does not involve fiddling with sound card settings and is free so you can use the editor of choice.
 Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2019 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic plugged in sure could use some help.


> Goldwave would be your best bet. In its microphone section it has a
> loopback feature that will allow you to point it to your sound card
> and record from it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sue J. Ward" <groovy41@...>
> To: "nvda groups" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:11 PM
> Subject: [nvda] how to record audio from the computer with no mic
> plugged in sure could use some help.
>
>
>>  Hello. Does anyone know of any audio recording software that works
>> with NVDA with no mic attached to the computer? I want to record a
>> lot of internal stuff from my computer with no mic attached. I have
>> tried audacity with everything they suggested when reading the user
>> guide to make it work no such luck since am using windows 10. Lets
>> just say if I want to record a radio station or anything from my
>> computer what type of program could I use with NVDA? I have heard of
>> total recorder and gold wave would those programs work since I do
>> have everything up to date and I did check in the recording section
>> and I have no stereo mics on my sound card. Have any of you used
>> sound tap or any apps with in the app store to get anything to work
>> with NVDA? I have tried everything with the line in jack nothing. Or
>> maybe I am not setting it up right. Any suggestions would be excellent. Thank you.
>> ____________________________________________________________
>> Top Gut Doctor Warns: "Throw Out This Vegetable Immediately"
>> unhealthpublications.com
>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c2edd115b38d5d104ca5st01duc
>>
>>
>>
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