A weird one!


Roger Stewart
 

When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells. Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger


Gene
 

Are you saying this happened everywhere or just in certain places?  that may be important in guessing what occurred.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 9:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!

When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and
every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no
idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart
nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells.
Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find
nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from
there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the
first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It
was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and
see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what
might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger





Roger Stewart
 

I was getting the table message in Thunderbird. However, the nvda keys were not working at all and that was global. I was able to hear the names of the running applications list so I could find and stop nvda. There was no way to stop nvda except using P-View as I couldn't bring up the shutdown dialogue or the nvda menu at all.

Roger












On 2/5/2019 10:28 AM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying this happened everywhere or just in certain places?  that may be important in guessing what occurred.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 9:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!

When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and
every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no
idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart
nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells.
Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find
nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from
there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the
first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It
was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and
see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what
might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger






Gene
 

My guess is that you had sticky keys, for some reason.  This appears to be rare now, it used to be rather common with JAWS, but as far as I know, it either didn't happen or was very rare with NVDA.  Sticky keys means that, for some reason, keys are active whether you are holding them or not.  In your case, control and alt appear to have been active.  Since those are the keys for reading in tables when browse mode is on, you probably heard the announcement because those keys were both on.  Unloading and running NVDA caused the keys to be unlocked.  Also, if you had tried pressing control perhaps twenty times fast and then alt twenty times fast, while letting NVDA run, that might have solved the problem, too.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird one!

I was getting the table message in Thunderbird. However, the nvda keys were not working at all and that was global. I was able to hear the names of the running applications list so I could find and stop nvda. There was no way to stop nvda except using P-View as I couldn't bring up the shutdown dialogue or the nvda menu at all.

Roger












On 2/5/2019 10:28 AM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying this happened everywhere or just in certain places?  that may be important in guessing what occurred.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 9:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!

When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and
every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no
idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart
nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells.
Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find
nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from
there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the
first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It
was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and
see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what
might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger






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It thinks you have pressed a combination of keys. I've definitely seen this in Windows 7. It seems quite random and I suspect its a windows issue myself. It is very rare but can for example appear if something is taking longer than normal to boot up I found.
If anyone has any idea let us know Often looking at the nvda log shos that several keys are pressed when only one or two are really pressed.
I'm almost sure this goes back a very long way and had a ticket but nobody could get it to happen to order. I found often in my case it was windows and control.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA List" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 3:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!


When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells. Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger




 

I have had windows do things with wireless keyboard.

If its doing that a lot, then its probably your keyboard.

It could be dirty but most like you have a dieing battery.

Make sure you keep a spare wired keyboard and lots of power cells about.

I have had users that have run out of batteries, have noticed things getting unstable, but never bothered about them, or added it to a todo list and forgot.

So they need to get another computer and go out to the store to get a battery.

Its like printer ink, actually buy your drums and ink before you run oout of them.

On 6/02/2019 7:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It thinks you have pressed a combination of keys. I've definitely seen this in Windows 7. It seems quite random and I suspect its a windows issue myself. It is very rare but can for example appear if something is taking longer than normal to boot up I found.
If anyone has any idea let us know Often looking at the nvda log shos that several keys are pressed when only one or two are really pressed.
 I'm almost sure this goes back a very long way and had a ticket but nobody could get it to happen to order. I found often in my case it was windows and control.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA List" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 3:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!


When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells. Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger







Roger Stewart
 

Good idea, but not the problem here. I'm using a hard wired keyboard. Anyhow, it didn't happen this morning and probably won't happen again until I win the Power Ball! :-)
Roger

On 2/6/2019 3:51 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I have had windows do things with wireless keyboard.

If its doing that a lot, then its probably your keyboard.

It could be dirty but most like you have a dieing battery.

Make sure you keep a spare wired keyboard and lots of power cells about.

I have had users that have run out of batteries, have noticed things getting unstable, but never bothered about them, or added it to a todo list and forgot.

So they need to get another computer and go out to the store to get a battery.

Its like printer ink, actually buy your drums and ink before you run oout of them.



On 6/02/2019 7:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It thinks you have pressed a combination of keys. I've definitely seen this in Windows 7. It seems quite random and I suspect its a windows issue myself. It is very rare but can for example appear if something is taking longer than normal to boot up I found.
If anyone has any idea let us know Often looking at the nvda log shos that several keys are pressed when only one or two are really pressed.
 I'm almost sure this goes back a very long way and had a ticket but nobody could get it to happen to order. I found often in my case it was windows and control.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA List" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 3:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!


When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells. Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger