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Don H #55146 Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks
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Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> #55148 Heh, Amazon does the same thing when selecting the category you want to search. Only, there, it goes to the next field, so you need to shift tab, press down arrow, and repeat as necessary until it gets to the proper category for what you want to search for, it's quite irritating. I generally don't bother to select a category because of that. It makes for more crap to sort through when the results come up, but it saves me aggravation, so I consider it a fair trade. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote: Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks
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Ron Canazzi #55154 The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow. On some combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow to open and alt + up arrow to close. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote: Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Lou Kolb <loukolb@...> #55161 I haven't tried it, but might first-letter navigation work here once you open the box? Try pressing U for United States. Often, that gets me there. Of course, it depends on how many countries whose names begin with U are listed. Good luck. Lou toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2/6/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote: The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow. On some combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow to open and alt + up arrow to close. On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote: Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Ian Westerland #55162 Hi Lou. I have also found that, for some reason, once the first letter of a country has been pressed, when arrowing, the rest of the boxes speak as expected. I have no explanation for this, but in many cases, that is what happens. Regards Ian Westerland toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2/7/2019 8:23 AM, Lou Kolb wrote: I haven't tried it, but might first-letter navigation work here once you open the box? Try pressing U for United States. Often, that gets me there. Of course, it depends on how many countries whose names begin with U are listed. Good luck. Lou On 2/6/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote: The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow. On some combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow to open and alt + up arrow to close. On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote: Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Lou Kolb <loukolb@...> #55164 Thanks, Ian. I hadn't noticed that but it's sure good to know. every little bit of info helps. Lou toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 2/6/19, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au> wrote: Hi Lou. I have also found that, for some reason, once the first letter of a country has been pressed, when arrowing, the rest of the boxes speak as expected. I have no explanation for this, but in many cases, that is what happens. Regards Ian Westerland On 2/7/2019 8:23 AM, Lou Kolb wrote: I haven't tried it, but might first-letter navigation work here once you open the box? Try pressing U for United States. Often, that gets me there. Of course, it depends on how many countries whose names begin with U are listed. Good luck. Lou On 2/6/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote: The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow. On some combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow to open and alt + up arrow to close. On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote: Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> #55238 Long time since I did this but I think you need to hold down the control key for these boxes. I find it irritating that the world seems unable to standardise on how combo boxes work even in the same form sometimes! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 7:49 PM Subject: [nvda] dealing with combo box expansion Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> #55240 Sometimes it works that way too., As I say this is a criticism of combo box behaviour and design. I keep forgetting which technique works on which boxes. I place the blame for this squarely on the web designer who cannot be consistent for keybord or even touch users. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with combo box expansion The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow. On some combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow to open and alt + up arrow to close. On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote: Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Steve Nutt #55250 No, it's Alt and down arrow to expand them. All the best Steve toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: 07 February 2019 09:14 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with combo box expansion Long time since I did this but I think you need to hold down the control key for these boxes. I find it irritating that the world seems unable to standardise on how combo boxes work even in the same form sometimes! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 7:49 PM Subject: [nvda] dealing with combo box expansion Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? Thanks
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Gene #55263 When browse mode is off, use alt down arrow in the combo box before you move around in it. When you are on the item you want, I believe that either tabbing away or pressing enter will set the combo box to your choice. You can experiment and see if one or the other works more reliably. I don't recall ever seeing a combo box where you use control down arrow, which is completely nonstandard and is a Windows command for move to next paragraph. Gene toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 3:14 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] dealing with combo box expansion Long time since I did this but I think you need to hold down the control key for these boxes. I find it irritating that the world seems unable to standardise on how combo boxes work even in the same form sometimes! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 7:49 PM Subject: [nvda] dealing with combo box expansion > Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page. After entering > the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card instead of > Paypal I got to a combo box for selecting the country you are in. I hit > the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed down one time it > closed and did not give me the chance to get to the United States. Had to > have sighted help using a physical mouse to get the combo box to the > correct country. How should I have accessed this combo box? > Thanks > > > >
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