Instances of redundancy


Travis Siegel
 

Ivan and Ivan2 are selections under settings, espeak-ng, english (us), then ivan (it turns out I'm using ivan, though I'm fairly certain that at one time I was using Ivan2.

I like them because they're a bit louder than some of the other voices, and a bit deeper, though only by degrees.

On 2/15/2019 9:35 AM, Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
I also use Espeak. I have never heard of Ivan or Ivan2 though. What are those?
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 15. Feb. 2019 um 15:23 Uhr schrieb Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>:


Felix G.
 

Hi,
I also use Espeak. I have never heard of Ivan or Ivan2 though. What are those?
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 15. Feb. 2019 um 15:23 Uhr schrieb Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>:


Felix, I don't have this problem, and I do a lot of console activity, as
well as chrome browsing. I do dislike the predictions on chrome, though
they can be helpful at times, but in the console, I have no echo issues at
all. Of course, I've turned off key echo, because it is broken, and I've
gotten used to not hearing my keystrokes, though I'd really like to have
that capability back in console windows, but it doesn't bother me much now
that I've gotten used to it.
Still, I'm not experiencing any du;oication of speech. What are you using
for your synthesizer, as it's possible that could impact what's happening.
I use espeak, and the ivan voice, ivan2 I think, and I run it at 99
percent, because 100 percent breaks up too much to be useful. Perhaps you
could try different synths and see if this behavior persists.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, Felix G. wrote:

Hi!
I am noticing that, when typing into the Youtube search field, for
every character I type, NVDA will repeat the name of the search field
followed by its current contents.
Also, in Chrome's address bar, when an automatic suggestion is
detected, that same auto suggestion is repeated every time I type an
additional character still matching the same suggestion.
Over time I find my concentration suffers when my audio input is
overloaded with all that stuttering. Is there a constellation of
settings which would minimize that kind of redundancy while still
keeping track of changes? I've experimented with the document and
browse mode settings but haven't come up with anything useful thus
far.
In addition, I am noticing that in colsole windows, the same text is
often spoken multiple times, even if both character and word echo are
turned off. It sounds a bit like this:
Peter, Paul and. Peter, Paul and Mary were sitting. Sitting in the.
Sitting in the kitchen.
As a programmer I need to be sure what my console is doing or not
doing. Is there a way to make this behave reliably in this most basic
of scenarios? I wouldn't be complaining if this were a complex gui,
but we're talking about simple text-mode console here.
All the best, looking forward to everyone's friendly advice,
Felix

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Travis Siegel
 

Felix, I don't have this problem, and I do a lot of console activity, as well as chrome browsing. I do dislike the predictions on chrome, though they can be helpful at times, but in the console, I have no echo issues at all. Of course, I've turned off key echo, because it is broken, and I've gotten used to not hearing my keystrokes, though I'd really like to have that capability back in console windows, but it doesn't bother me much now that I've gotten used to it.
Still, I'm not experiencing any du;oication of speech. What are you using for your synthesizer, as it's possible that could impact what's happening. I use espeak, and the ivan voice, ivan2 I think, and I run it at 99 percent, because 100 percent breaks up too much to be useful. Perhaps you could try different synths and see if this behavior persists.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, Felix G. wrote:

Hi!
I am noticing that, when typing into the Youtube search field, for
every character I type, NVDA will repeat the name of the search field
followed by its current contents.
Also, in Chrome's address bar, when an automatic suggestion is
detected, that same auto suggestion is repeated every time I type an
additional character still matching the same suggestion.
Over time I find my concentration suffers when my audio input is
overloaded with all that stuttering. Is there a constellation of
settings which would minimize that kind of redundancy while still
keeping track of changes? I've experimented with the document and
browse mode settings but haven't come up with anything useful thus
far.
In addition, I am noticing that in colsole windows, the same text is
often spoken multiple times, even if both character and word echo are
turned off. It sounds a bit like this:
Peter, Paul and. Peter, Paul and Mary were sitting. Sitting in the.
Sitting in the kitchen.
As a programmer I need to be sure what my console is doing or not
doing. Is there a way to make this behave reliably in this most basic
of scenarios? I wouldn't be complaining if this were a complex gui,
but we're talking about simple text-mode console here.
All the best, looking forward to everyone's friendly advice,
Felix

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I've noted this as well. the search engine one is a real pain in the backside. I only use console windows sometimes but for odd reasons it seems not to be always doing it. I suspect its detecting the cursor focus moves rather than its final resting place, so to speak.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 7:41 AM
Subject: [nvda] Instances of redundancy


Hi!
I am noticing that, when typing into the Youtube search field, for
every character I type, NVDA will repeat the name of the search field
followed by its current contents.
Also, in Chrome's address bar, when an automatic suggestion is
detected, that same auto suggestion is repeated every time I type an
additional character still matching the same suggestion.
Over time I find my concentration suffers when my audio input is
overloaded with all that stuttering. Is there a constellation of
settings which would minimize that kind of redundancy while still
keeping track of changes? I've experimented with the document and
browse mode settings but haven't come up with anything useful thus
far.
In addition, I am noticing that in colsole windows, the same text is
often spoken multiple times, even if both character and word echo are
turned off. It sounds a bit like this:
Peter, Paul and. Peter, Paul and Mary were sitting. Sitting in the.
Sitting in the kitchen.
As a programmer I need to be sure what my console is doing or not
doing. Is there a way to make this behave reliably in this most basic
of scenarios? I wouldn't be complaining if this were a complex gui,
but we're talking about simple text-mode console here.
All the best, looking forward to everyone's friendly advice,
Felix


Felix G.
 

Hi!
I am noticing that, when typing into the Youtube search field, for
every character I type, NVDA will repeat the name of the search field
followed by its current contents.
Also, in Chrome's address bar, when an automatic suggestion is
detected, that same auto suggestion is repeated every time I type an
additional character still matching the same suggestion.
Over time I find my concentration suffers when my audio input is
overloaded with all that stuttering. Is there a constellation of
settings which would minimize that kind of redundancy while still
keeping track of changes? I've experimented with the document and
browse mode settings but haven't come up with anything useful thus
far.
In addition, I am noticing that in colsole windows, the same text is
often spoken multiple times, even if both character and word echo are
turned off. It sounds a bit like this:
Peter, Paul and. Peter, Paul and Mary were sitting. Sitting in the.
Sitting in the kitchen.
As a programmer I need to be sure what my console is doing or not
doing. Is there a way to make this behave reliably in this most basic
of scenarios? I wouldn't be complaining if this were a complex gui,
but we're talking about simple text-mode console here.
All the best, looking forward to everyone's friendly advice,
Felix