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ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually
keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to
get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it
sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved
that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up
and not have to go through that again with any clean install of
thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but
when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by
doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all
the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from
Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when
highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard
drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird,
you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming
folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the
contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the
Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of
Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my
messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was
even possible. Help me with this, please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel
escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your
definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away,
I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away.
Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for
them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better
fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly
the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go
away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't
mean that others who are fully aware of what they're
getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one
much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage,
security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails
because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever
backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the
easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another,
but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if
your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here
can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what
works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider,
I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount
of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think
people are using pop so much anymore but I could be
wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand
messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really
complain at me. You can also clean them up using
iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would
just go away and die. All the email and
attachments are backed up in the cloud and no
matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of
messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so
others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish.
As I understand it, you can keep a large
number on the server if you wish.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as
Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34,
Gene escreveu:
unless you want a
permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that
using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Mightn't it be easier to use Thunderbird portable
and just copy everything to a new location?
Gene
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: backing up thunderbirdRe: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I
care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages
because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed
configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the
instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all
that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of
thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using
Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the
application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted,
press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or
some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or
if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install
Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through
3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied
into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird
backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io
wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I
definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it
before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this,
please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel
escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition
of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws
wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft
would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them.
There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and
there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative.
Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that
others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it
shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons,
including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they
used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm
thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one
email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap
messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can
tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you,
and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3
account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started
bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could
be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's
server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up
using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away
and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no
matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I
lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to
pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the
question. But I'm sure you can delete messages if you
wish. As I understand it, you can keep a large number on the
server if you wish.
----- Original Message
-----
Sent: Thursday, February
28, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] POP
is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam
#adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene
escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of
all your received messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able
to delete any message?
Cheers,
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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|
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It might be. It sounds easier just to copy the folder, but I'm
just now becoming more familiar with portable copies of programs.
I guess if I'd started out using a portable version of thunderbird
it would've been easier, but now I have the installed version, so
if I downloaded the portable, I'd still initially have to do all
the hard work of reconfiguring everything, then make a copy of it.
or would I?
Annette
On 2/28/2019 3:15 PM, Gene wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Mightn't it be easier to use Thunderbird portable and just
copy everything to a new location?
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 3:07 PM
Subject: backing up thunderbirdRe: [nvda] POP is
unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam
#adminnotice]
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about
actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an
hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the
way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the
instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I
could back all that up and not have to go through that again
with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer,
that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but
when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by
doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all
the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from
Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when
highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard
drive or some similar device and you have everything backed
up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird,
you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming
folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the
contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into
the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of
Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my
messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it
was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis
Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit
your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go
away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go
away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for
them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a
better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap
is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the
other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't
mean that others who are fully aware of what they're
getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one
much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk
usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails
because they used pop3, my question is did those folks
ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not
the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to
another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap
messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and
nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what
works for you, and allow others to use what works for
them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet
provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a
certain amount of messages, my email started
bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much
anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go
away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand
messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really
complain at me. You can also clean them up using
iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3
would just go away and die. All the email and
attachments are backed up in the cloud and no
matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth
of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so
others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish.
As I understand it, you can keep a large
number on the server if you wish.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as
Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34,
Gene escreveu:
unless you want a
permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that
using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
|
|
|
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below. https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote: ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail. and bookmarks. in your firefox.
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Show quoted text
On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote: Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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I use Becky! mail, it does and I can have all my configurations, filters,
folders structure, automatically backed up every night using open drive.
I had to restore, re-claiming all 29000 or messages without loss of a
thing, and not wasting space on my email provider who limits on disc
storage if I don't claim the mail. :)
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Thank you for the info.
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Show quoted text
On 2/28/2019 2:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail. and bookmarks. in your firefox.
On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day
ago and when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my
back up system, the address book, the folder structure (I have 17
sub folders under Inbox) the layout and even the order of message
selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore
wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about
actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an
hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the
way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the
instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I
could back all that up and not have to go through that again
with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer,
that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but
when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by
doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all
the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from
Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when
highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard
drive or some similar device and you have everything backed
up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird,
you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming
folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the
contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into
the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of
Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my
messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it
was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis
Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit
your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go
away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go
away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for
them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a
better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap
is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the
other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't
mean that others who are fully aware of what they're
getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one
much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk
usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails
because they used pop3, my question is did those folks
ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not
the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to
another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap
messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and
nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what
works for you, and allow others to use what works for
them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet
provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a
certain amount of messages, my email started
bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much
anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go
away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand
messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really
complain at me. You can also clean them up using
iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3
would just go away and die. All the email and
attachments are backed up in the cloud and no
matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth
of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so
others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish.
As I understand it, you can keep a large
number on the server if you wish.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as
Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34,
Gene escreveu:
unless you want a
permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that
using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Oh, yay! thank you for letting me know that. glad everything was
saved for you. :)
Annette
On 2/28/2019 8:48 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day
ago and when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my
back up system, the address book, the folder structure (I have
17 sub folders under Inbox) the layout and even the order of
message selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore
wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as
your messages? I care more about the configuration than about
actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an
hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to
the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have
the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot,
if I could back all that up and not have to go through that
again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new
computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but
when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by
doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains
all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails
from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when
highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external
hard drive or some similar device and you have everything
backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use
Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate
to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3
above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that
you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of
Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my
messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it
was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis
Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit
your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go
away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go
away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine
for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is
a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where
imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or
the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that
doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what
they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so.
I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons,
including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of
emails because they used pop3, my question is did those
folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure,
it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email
client to another, but you're just as likely to loose
all your imap messages if your email provider goes
bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's
never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what
works for you, and allow others to use what works for
them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet
provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a
certain amount of messages, my email started
bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so
much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3
would go away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand
messages on gmail's server and it doesn't
really complain at me. You can also clean them
up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish
that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the
email and attachments are backed up in the
cloud and no matter what device as stated you
are on you can always get your mail. I lost
over 3 years worth of messages once so am not
going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP
so others can answer the question. But
I'm sure you can delete messages if you
wish. As I understand it, you can keep
a large number on the server if you
wish.
----- Original
Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as
Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019
12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want
a permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that
using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Hey list! Arlene here; I'm writing to you on this new win ten laptop.
My win 7 box bit the dust! I lost all sound. A sighted person can
operate it. But I could not. I just got this computer on Tuesday.
One question I want to ask. Can I put Gmail onto Thunderbird? If so,
How can I do it? Thanks! Have a good night!
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Show quoted text
On 2/28/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote: Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day ago and
when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my back up system,
the address book, the folder structure (I have 17 sub folders under
Inbox) the layout and even the order of message selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually
keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get
everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI
have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard
Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to
go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a
future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when
using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the
following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the
application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted,
press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or
some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird
or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply
install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described
in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird
folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird
backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I
never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible.
Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your
definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish
jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish
microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them.
There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than
imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better
alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just
ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that
others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to
use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several
reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because
they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their
mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move
mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to
loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as
well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for
you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got
to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I
don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be
wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server
and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up
using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go
away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the
cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once
so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed
for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Hi Arlene,
You can use GMail with pop or imap. First you must go onto the GMail site, log in and under settings, change your delivery method from web to either pop3 or imap.
Then you create a GMail account in Thunderbird using the following settings for ports and security.
for smpt the port is 465
Connection Security: ssl/tls
Authentication password: normal password
User name is full e-mail address as in joe.smith@...
incoming port for pop or imat 995
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On 2/28/2019 11:27 PM, Arlene wrote: Hey list! Arlene here; I'm writing to you on this new win ten laptop.
My win 7 box bit the dust! I lost all sound. A sighted person can
operate it. But I could not. I just got this computer on Tuesday.
One question I want to ask. Can I put Gmail onto Thunderbird? If so,
How can I do it? Thanks! Have a good night!
On 2/28/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day ago and
when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my back up system,
the address book, the folder structure (I have 17 sub folders under
Inbox) the layout and even the order of message selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually
keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get
everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI
have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard
Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to
go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a
future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when
using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the
following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the
application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted,
press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or
some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird
or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply
install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described
in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird
folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird
backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I
never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible.
Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your
definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish
jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish
microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them.
There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than
imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better
alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just
ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that
others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to
use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several
reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because
they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their
mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move
mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to
loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as
well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for
you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got
to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I
don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be
wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server
and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up
using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go
away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the
cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once
so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed
for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
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In addition you need to make sure on accounts.google.com that in security settings you allow third party programs.
Google says this is dangerous but we all know they just want you to use chrome to use email and their own software, once thats all okk you will probably start the usual signin and will be asked to autnorise thunderbird to be a trusted app then it will work.
A reminder if you use 2step authentication you will have to set a app password for thunderbird but you probably know that allready its not like they don't tell you a million times.
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On 1/03/2019 6:26 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote: Hi Arlene,
You can use GMail with pop or imap. First you must go onto the GMail site, log in and under settings, change your delivery method from web to either pop3 or imap.
Then you create a GMail account in Thunderbird using the following settings for ports and security.
for smpt the port is 465
Connection Security: ssl/tls
Authentication password: normal password
User name is full e-mail address as in joe.smith@...
incoming port for pop or imat 995
On 2/28/2019 11:27 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hey list! Arlene here; I'm writing to you on this new win ten laptop.
My win 7 box bit the dust! I lost all sound. A sighted person can
operate it. But I could not. I just got this computer on Tuesday.
One question I want to ask. Can I put Gmail onto Thunderbird? If so,
How can I do it? Thanks! Have a good night!
On 2/28/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day ago and
when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my back up system,
the address book, the folder structure (I have 17 sub folders under
Inbox) the layout and even the order of message selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually
keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get
everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI
have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard
Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to
go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a
future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when
using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the
following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the
application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted,
press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or
some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird
or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply
install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described
in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird
folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird
backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I
never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible.
Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your
definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish
jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish
microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them.
There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than
imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better
alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just
ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that
others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to
use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several
reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because
they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their
mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move
mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to
loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as
well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for
you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got
to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I
don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be
wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server
and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up
using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go
away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the
cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once
so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed
for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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I would suggest getting a cheap perhaps ten or
fifteen U.S. dollar sound card and seeing if you can use the old computer with
it. its good to have another computer available and I always have at least
two functioning computers available. I recall you lost sound but that may
mean your built-in sound card is no longer working. All it may need is a
USB sound card to get audio back.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: backing up thunderbirdRe: [nvda] POP is unwise [was:
Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Hey list! Arlene here; I'm writing to you on this new win ten
laptop. My win 7 box bit the dust! I lost all sound. A sighted person
can operate it. But I could not. I just got this computer on
Tuesday. One question I want to ask. Can I put Gmail onto Thunderbird? If
so, How can I do it? Thanks! Have a good night! On 2/28/19, Ron
Canazzi < aa2vm@...>
wrote: > Hi Annette, > > > As far as I can tell,
everything is saved. I just updated a day ago and > when I opened the back
up version of Thunderbird on my back up system, > the address book, the
folder structure (I have 17 sub folders under > Inbox) the layout and even
the order of message selection was saved. > > > On 2/28/2019
4:07 PM, Annette Moore wrote: >> >> ron, does this save all of
your configuration, as well as your >> messages? I care more about the
configuration than about actually >> keeping any of my messages because
it took about an hour for me to get >> everything I wanted/needed
configured to the way I needed it sinceI >> have three email accounts.
I have the instructions saved that Richard >> Wels gave me, but shoot,
if I could back all that up and not have to >> go through that again
with any clean install of thunderbird on a >> future new computer, that
would be great! >> >> Annette >> >> On
2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote: >>> >>> Hi
Group, >>> >>> >>> This probably varies from
mail program to mail program, but when >>> using Thunderbird, you
can back up almost everything by doing the >>>
following. >>> >>> >>> 1. Close
Thunderbird. >>> >>> 2. From the run dialogue,
type %appdata% and press enter. >>> >>> 3. You are
in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the >>>
application data, settings, address book and e-mails from
Thunderbird. >>> >>> 4. navigate to the folder
named Thunderbird and when highlighted, >>> press control + C to
copy that folder. >>> >>> 5. Then paste this
folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or >>> some similar
device and you have everything backed up. >>> >>>
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird >>> or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird,
you can simply >>> install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming
folder as described >>> in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the
contents of the Thunderbird >>> folder that you have copied into the
Roaming folder. >>> >>> >>> I do this every
few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird >>> backed
up. >>> >>> >>> On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio
via Groups.Io wrote: >>>> 100% agreed. Very, very well said,
indeed. >>>> >>>> Now I definitely would like to
know how I can backup my messages. I >>>> never did it before
just because I never knew it was even possible. >>>> Help me with
this, please? >>>> >>>>
Cheers, >>>> Marcio >>>> Follow or add me on
Facebook < https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon> >>>> >>>>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel
escreveu: >>>>> >>>>> Wishing something
would go away because it doesn't fit your >>>>> definition of
what is useful is just plain
silly. >>>>> >>>>> If that were the case,
then I wish narrator would go away, I whish >>>>> jaws wold go
away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish >>>>>
microsoft would go away. >>>>> >>>>> \See,
it serves no purpose. >>>>> >>>>> There are
people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. >>>>>
There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit
than >>>>> imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly
the better >>>>> alternative. Wishing one or the other
would go away is just >>>>> ignorance
talking. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't wish to
use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that >>>>> others
who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish
to >>>>> use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer
pop3, for several >>>>> reasons, including disk usage,
security, issues, ease of backup, >>>>> and
others. >>>>> >>>>> When folks talk about
folks loosing years worth of emails because >>>>> they used
pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their >>>>>
mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to
move >>>>> mail from one email client to another, but you're
just as likely to >>>>> loose all your imap messages if your
email provider goes bye-bye as >>>>> well, and nobody here can
tell me that's never happened. >>>>> >>>>>
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works
for >>>>> you, and allow others to use what works for
them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On
2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria
wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> With my old internet
provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got >>>>>> to a
certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing.
I >>>>>> don't think people are using pop so much anymore
but I could be >>>>>> wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away
too. >>>>>> >>>>>>
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On
Behalf >>>>>> Of *Sarah k
Alawami >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27
AM >>>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io>>>>>>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed
for >>>>>> Marking Messages as Spam
#adminnotice] >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes you
can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's
server >>>>>> and it doesn't really complain at me. You can
also clean them up >>>>>> using iMap as well. I use iMap
and wish that pop 3 would just go >>>>>> away and die. All
the email and attachments are backed up in the >>>>>> cloud
and no matter what device as stated you are on you
can >>>>>> always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth
of messages once >>>>>> so am not going back to
pop3. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at
7:49, Gene
wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But
I'm >>>>>> sure you can delete
messages if you wish. As I understand
it, >>>>>> you can keep a large
number on the server if you
wish. >>>>>> >>>>>>
Gene >>>>>> >>>>>>
----- Original Message
----- >>>>>> >>>>>>
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io >>>>>>
< mailto:marcinhorj21@...> >>>>>> >>>>>>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37
AM >>>>>> >>>>>>
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io < mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>>>>> >>>>>>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed >>>>>> for Marking
Messages as Spam
#adminnotice] >>>>>> >>>>>>
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene
escreveu: >>>>>> >>>>>>
unless you want a permanent collection of all
your >>>>>>
received messages off
site. >>>>>> >>>>>>
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete
any >>>>>>
message? >>>>>> >>>>>>
Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>>
Marcio >>>>>> Follow or add me on
Facebook < https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
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Virus-free. www.avast.com>>>>> < https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>
<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>
-- >>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >>> They
ask: "How Happy are You?" >>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away
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If I'm Happy; I say Yes. > They ask: "How Happy are You?" > I Say:
"I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana
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Hi, no worries are you going to try it?
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On 28/02/2019 23:45, Brice Mijares wrote: Thank you for the info.
On 2/28/2019 2:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail. and bookmarks. in your firefox.
On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
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Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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I downloaded it, but haven't tried it yet. may do it over the weekend. thanks.
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On 3/1/2019 1:23 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: Hi, no worries are you going to try it?
On 28/02/2019 23:45, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank you for the info.
On 2/28/2019 2:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail. and bookmarks. in your firefox.
On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
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*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Hi, no problems fully accessible using Nvda.
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On 01/03/2019 22:41, Brice Mijares wrote: I downloaded it, but haven't tried it yet. may do it over the weekend. thanks.
On 3/1/2019 1:23 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, no worries are you going to try it?
On 28/02/2019 23:45, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank you for the info.
On 2/28/2019 2:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail. and bookmarks. in your firefox.
On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*marcio via Groups.Io
<mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
*Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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There's an easier way than this. Get ThunderBird portable from portable apps, and just tell the portable apps client to install itself in your DropBox or one drive folder or whatever cloud service you use. This way, the portable apps client, when ran, will automatically check for TB updates and be on every computer you personally use.
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how do you restore your mail using the portable?
On 3/2/2019 6:06 AM, Robert Kingett
wrote:
There's an easier way than this. Get ThunderBird portable from
portable apps, and just tell the portable apps client to install
itself in your DropBox or one drive folder or whatever cloud
service you use. This way, the portable apps client, when ran,
will automatically check for TB updates and be on every computer
you personally use.
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Hi list: Arlene writing from this new laptop. when I tried to put
gmail onto thunderbird I could not do it! My gmail address is old. can
I still do it? If so, how do I tell if this gmail is on imap. How do
do it on the site itself. any help will be appreciated. thanks.
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On 3/2/19, The Wolf <hank.smith966@...> wrote: how do you restore your mail using the portable?
On 3/2/2019 6:06 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:
There's an easier way than this. Get ThunderBird portable from
portable apps, and just tell the portable apps client to install
itself in your DropBox or one drive folder or whatever cloud service
you use. This way, the portable apps client, when ran, will
automatically check for TB updates and be on every computer you
personally use.
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