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Akshaya Choudhary
 

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
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Sarah k Alawami
 

That would be nice however "I'm not sure how much coding that involves as the android platform is way different to the pc platform in terms of what it can and cannot except. I forgot what android os is coded in I think java (not java script) Plus I'm not sure how hard or easy it is to get api and other access that nvda would need.

On 10 Mar 2019, at 8:16, Sociohack AC wrote:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Daniel Wolak <danielwolak97@...>
 

Hi,

Personally, I'd say that both of these are highly unlikely. The amount of effort involved for android would most likely be immense, and apple's sandboxing infrastructure would make this impossible unless something drastically changed in their approach. Apples and oranges and all that.

Cheers,


Daniel

On 10/03/2019 15:16, Sociohack AC wrote:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Ali Savas
 

Hi,


first, no, it is not possible.


This would not work, becuase:


  • You should program NVDA from the Scratch for each operating system.
  • Apple does not allow to execute binary Code and grab system information on iOS.
  • And many more problems...


Regards

Ali


 

I remember that it was discussed a long time ago in the Romanian community. Someone suggested it  for Android and Linux. Anyway, I don't know if this will be possible in the future. However, I consider that an NVDA aapplication for IOS isn't necessary, as VoiceOver is a very good screen reader, That's my opinion as an IOS user.

La 10.03.2019 17:24, Sarah k Alawami a scris:

That would be nice however "I'm not sure how much coding that involves as the android platform is way different to the pc platform in terms of what it can and cannot except. I forgot what android os is coded in I think java (not java script) Plus I'm not sure how hard or easy it is to get api and other access that nvda would need.

On 10 Mar 2019, at 8:16, Sociohack AC wrote:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Antony Stone
 

The effort involved in "converting" NVDA to run on anything other than Windows
would in my opinion be greater than starting from scratch (but with a good
understanding of what a screenreader should provide for the user) and writing
new code.

Android (alongside which you might as well include Linux systems in general)
and iOS work so completely differently from Windows that very little of the
code which has been created for NVDA would be useful or transferrable.

I've no idea how "easily" the Linux Orca screenreader system might be
transferrable to Android, but that's about the only possibility I can think of
for re-using code from an existing project to work on a different operating
system.

Regards,


Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 16:16:45, Sociohack AC wrote:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android
and IOS? Is it possible? Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support
external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could
be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of
a PC. What do you guys think? --
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We have many times been down this route. The short answer is no, since the dependencies used by NVDA are PC specific and indeed windows specific. If you really wanted to do it it would in effect be a completely new screenreader that emulated the windows system but then of course mobile operating systems are nothing like windows and the concepts are totally different anyway. I think this in itself is why we have not seen massive adoption of touch screen windows systems except in niche environments.
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From: "Sociohack AC" <acsociopath@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS


Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

As many other people already stated, no, it is not possible right now and I personally don’t see a need for it. We have talkback and voiceover which are pretty good screen readers on their platforms.

NVDA is my choice of screen reader for the Windows platform and I would prefer that the NVDA community spend their power to make it better on that platform instead of trying to  transform it for other platforms.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Sonntag, 10. März 2019 16:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS

 

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


 

As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Mallard
 

Yes, it would be fantastic... Also on Linux...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 10/03/2019 19:42, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
Marcio AKA /Starboy/
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Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Not sure what the point would be.

NVDA is a windows application, there's no advantage to porting it to IOS or Android, since those platforms already have screen readers, (IOS even has one built-in), what would be the usage case for making another one?

Android has multiple screen readers, so AI suppose another one there couldn't hurt, but it won't be NVDA, since porting a windows app to a linux environment isn't  really something that can be done easily, (or in some cases) at all, because of the  way they work, and to be honest, NVDA falls into the second category.  To make a linux screen reader, you need to do things entirely differently than on a windows system.  Basically, it would be a matter of rewriting NVDA from scratch, and since there's already some very good screen readers for linux, Android and OSX, there's not much point to it.

On 3/10/2019 11:16 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

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ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi all

On a similar track, does nvda work on windows phones.

Regards Adrian Pocock.

On 10/03/2019 15:16, Sociohack AC wrote:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


 

On Linux we have Orca, which is a bit like NVDA, isn't it?

Cheers,
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Em 10/03/2019 17:13, Mallard escreveu:

Yes, it would be fantastic... Also on Linux...

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 10/03/2019 19:42, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
Marcio AKA /Starboy/
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
-- 
Regards,
Sociohack








 

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
On a similar track, does nvda work on windows phones.
And given that the Windows Phone is deader than a doornail, that's a good thing.
 
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ADRIAN POCOCK
 

I know that the windows phone is no longer, but you can still get your hands on them.

Did nvda work on them.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 21:52, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 05:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
On a similar track, does nvda work on windows phones.
And given that the Windows Phone is deader than a doornail, that's a good thing.
 
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On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
Did nvda work on them.
Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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Dale Leavens
 

Really!

Is there anything at all that can be added to this subject?

It isn’t happening.  Get over it already! Or take it to the chat group.

Dale Leavens

On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
Did nvda work on them.
Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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This list isn't about NVDA?
This topic isn't about NVDA?
As it goes, sooner or later we won't be allowed to talk about anything here.
Mind you, you have a key on your keyboard, whatever device you are using -- as long as it has any one -- called delete. Why not to use it? Are you afraid of breaking it? :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 10/03/2019 20:38, Dale Leavens escreveu:

Really!

Is there anything at all that can be added to this subject?

It isn’t happening.  Get over it already! Or take it to the chat group.

Dale Leavens

On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
Did nvda work on them.
Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I agree, Marcio. He needs to grow up and get a life!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 4:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS

 

This list isn't about NVDA?
This topic isn't about NVDA?
As it goes, sooner or later we won't be allowed to talk about anything here.

Mind you, you have a key on your keyboard, whatever device you are using -- as long as it has any one -- called delete. Why not to use it? Are you afraid of breaking it? :)

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy


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Em 10/03/2019 20:38, Dale Leavens escreveu:

Really!

 

Is there anything at all that can be added to this subject?

 

It isn’t happening.  Get over it already! Or take it to the chat group.

Dale Leavens


On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Did nvda work on them.

Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Wow! Since when did you become our list moderator? Ever heard of that thing called the delete key? It's called use it if you don't like reading about certain topics--or are you afraid it'll fall off of your keyboard? I won't say anything more.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dale Leavens
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 4:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS

 

Really!

 

Is there anything at all that can be added to this subject?

 

It isn’t happening.  Get over it already! Or take it to the chat group.

Dale Leavens


On Mar 10, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 07:10 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Did nvda work on them.

Given the radical difference in processor architecture and lack of a keyboard, for starters, it's highly doubtful.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back