image describer addon for NVDA
abdul muhamin
Hi all, I’ve found something very useful, take a look at here https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/
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On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/For some reason that link didn't "linkify" in your original message, so I'm repeating it here. The actual download page for the add on is listed here: http://www.screenreader.ai/ This topic is again giving me the chance to call on the powers that be that control the NVDA Add-Ons pages to create a third one under the hierarchy: Community Developed but Unvetted. There are scads of NVDA Add-Ons that get mentioned in passing over time and I have little doubt that a number of the individuals who've developed same would jump at the chance to have their work listed in a central repository just like the Stable Add-Ons and Add-Ons Under Development pages at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html. It can be made perfectly clear by the chosen page title or text at the top of said page that use of these add-ons is entirely "at your own risk" and they have not passed any official vetting process. So many of them are just great, and work just fine. A mechanism on that page should also exist for reporting back if something has broken, not because those maintaining the page will fix the add-on itself, but it might be noted and/or delisted entirely if that persists. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
Just tried it. It does not show up under the add on manager as a add on so apart from the shortcut given on one of the pages there is no real way to see if there are any steps missed to make it work. it also does not show up any where else. has any one else got it to work? If it does work it will need to be updated so it works with the latest version of nvda.
I just got to remember how to remove the ones with out it be shown in the add on manager. maybe more info can be found under the explore user configuration directory i think it is called.
Gene nz
Gene nz
On 15/03/2019 6:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote: --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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hurrikennyandopo ...
hi
it also does not show under the nvda user configuration directory as a add on either. so I am guessing it just did not install unless it was compatible with this version.
Did any one get it to work in earlier versions of nvda? and if so how did you do it? Was it just a matter of installing the add on and using the shortcut or did you have to sign up so you could use it?
I did a while ago see reference to this add on which did have more information but do not know where it has gone.
Gene nz
On 15/03/2019 10:23 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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Ivan pivac
Hi Everyone,
I installed the image app and found it worked extremely well.
The download and installation was seemless. Although I'll need to
use it more, to establish its capabilities, my immediate
impression is that the add on is a very useful tool for us.
Cheers
Ivan On 15/03/2019 10:35 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
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Oliver Edholm
This is so cool! I'm the creator of this add-on, love that it's being useful for people!
If someone has any idea for improvements or other add-ons, please tell. I'm reachable at oliver.edholm@... |
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I installed it, but have not played with it. It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed.
I will repeat the link to the reddit page that describes the add-on. There is a link there to its download page: https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/ -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
I re downloaded with the link you gave me the same one as before and then it did install it this time and now shows in the add on manager not like before.
I will have a play with it this is using 2019.1 beta 1 and looks as ththough it ws tested on lower versions 2. Now time for a play.
Gene nz
On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I installed it, but have not played with it. It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
Until it goes up on the nvda community website I can add it to my website or at least a link to the page and the short cut to start it so more people can take it as they say for a test drive. I will link it off the nvda add ons page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net For more people to try it out the add on author should have it put on the add on website and see what you have to do to meet its criteria. Just been playing around with it to see what it says on images etc seems to work well. I might even try it on home photoes etc to see what it says and what is in it. My wife is usually good and gives a description of who or what it is as in naming the photo etc. I noticed also if it is named it gives you other descriptions of what is in the image.
I will do this in the next day or so. As in adding it to my website until it is approved.
Gene nz
On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I installed it, but have not played with it. It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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David Moore
Hi Gene! Thank you so much! I can’t wait until I can try this add-on! I would love to hear my pictures described. I have wanted this for a long time! NVDA gives me a present so often, because of all of these great add-ons LOL! Thanks! David Moore
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From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 6:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] image describer addon for NVDA
Hi
Until it goes up on the nvda community website I can add it to my website or at least a link to the page and the short cut to start it so more people can take it as they say for a test drive. I will link it off the nvda add ons page on my website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net For more people to try it out the add on author should have it put on the add on website and see what you have to do to meet its criteria. Just been playing around with it to see what it says on images etc seems to work well. I might even try it on home photoes etc to see what it says and what is in it. My wife is usually good and gives a description of who or what it is as in naming the photo etc. I noticed also if it is named it gives you other descriptions of what is in the image.
I will do this in the next day or so. As in adding it to my website until it is approved.
Gene nz
On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi David
the link to the reddit page is https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/ ?From off that page it will give you a link to the add on and also says the shortcut to start it.
So it can be used now there was a message from the guy that made it in a previous email. all i will be doing is adding it to the nvda add on page and also putting it under recently updated on the main page so more people can try it out so they know about it.
He would probably get more coverage if it goes on the official nvda community add on website but not sure how long that takes and who runs it.
gene nz
On 15/03/2019 10:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I installed it, but have not played with it. It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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David Moore
Hey all! I just installed the add-on, and it is describing my pictures that I took right now! This add-on is working so well. Wow, thank you so much for this add-on! This will be huge! David Moore
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 5:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] image describer addon for NVDA
I installed it, but have not played with it. It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Ron Canazzi
Hi Ivan,
Did you try it with capchas and if so how did it work?
On 3/14/2019 5:47 PM, Ivan pivac wrote:
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Lenron
This is pretty cool. What I am wondering about is if you feed this
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thing pictures will it learn what items are and get better? Like a chair book car even car type would be nice. I would love this for many many pictures if it did that. Also it would be cool if machine learning could tell us what things are in non described videos. That will be the day. On 3/15/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
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What we need is some sort of cloud repository I'd imagine that would be quite big.
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What would you use and how much would it cost, I don't have the cash for a major subscription as such, but I guess I could manage something like 1-2 bucks a month or something. On 15/03/2019 7:36 PM, Lenron wrote:
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Devin Prater
It seems to be using Google's AI. If an image is too large, it feeds NVDA the HTML of that page saying the image is too large, or something like that.
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What we need is some sort of cloud repository I'd imagine that would be Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 2:00 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] image describer addon for NVDA quite big. What would you use and how much would it cost, I don't have the cash for a major subscription as such, but I guess I could manage something like 1-2 bucks a month or something. On 15/03/2019 7:36 PM, Lenron wrote: > This is pretty cool. What I am wondering about is if you feed this > thing pictures will it learn what items are and get better? Like a > chair book car even car type would be nice. I would love this for many > many pictures if it did that. Also it would be cool if machine > learning could tell us what things are in non described videos. That > will be the day. > > On 3/15/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote: >> Hi Ivan, >> >> >> Did you try it with capchas and if so how did it work? >> >> >> On 3/14/2019 5:47 PM, Ivan pivac wrote: >>> Hi Everyone, >>> >>> >>> I installed the image app and found it worked extremely well. The >>> download and installation was seemless. Although I'll need to use it >>> more, to establish its capabilities, my immediate impression is that >>> the add on is a very useful tool for us. >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> Ivan >>> >>> On 15/03/2019 10:35 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote: >>> >>>> hi >>>> >>>> >>>> it also does not show under the nvda user configuration directory as >>>> a add on either. so I am guessing it just did not install unless it >>>> was compatible with this version. >>>> >>>> >>>> Did any one get it to work in earlier versions of nvda? and if so how >>>> did you do it? >>>> >>>> Was it just a matter of installing the add on and using the shortcut >>>> or did you have to sign up so you could use it? >>>> >>>> >>>> I did a while ago see reference to this add on which did have more >>>> information but do not know where it has gone. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gene nz >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15/03/2019 10:23 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Just tried it. It does not show up under the add on manager as a add >>>>> on so apart from the shortcut given on one of the pages there is no >>>>> real way to see if there are any steps missed to make it work. it >>>>> also does not show up any where else. has any one else got it to >>>>> work? If it does work it will need to be updated so it works with >>>>> the latest version of nvda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just got to remember how to remove the ones with out it be shown >>>>> in the add on manager. maybe more info can be found under the >>>>> explore user configuration directory i think it is called. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gene nz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gene nz >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 15/03/2019 6:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/ >>>>>> >>>>>> For some reason that link didn't "linkify" in your original >>>>>> message, so I'm repeating it here. The actual download page for >>>>>> the add on is listed here: http://www.screenreader.ai/ >>>>>> >>>>>> This topic is again giving me the chance to call on the powers that >>>>>> be that control the NVDA Add-Ons pages to create a third one under >>>>>> the hierarchy: Community Developed but Unvetted. There are scads >>>>>> of NVDA Add-Ons that get mentioned in passing over time and I have >>>>>> little doubt that a number of the individuals who've developed same >>>>>> would jump at the chance to have their work listed in a central >>>>>> repository just like the Stable Add-Ons and Add-Ons Under >>>>>> Development pages at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html. >>>>>> It can be made perfectly clear by the chosen page title or text at >>>>>> the top of said page that use of these add-ons is entirely "at your >>>>>> own risk" and they have not passed any official vetting process. >>>>>> So many of them are just great, and work just fine. A mechanism >>>>>> on that page should also exist for reporting back if something has >>>>>> broken, not because those maintaining the page will fix the add-on >>>>>> itself, but it might be noted and/or delisted entirely if that >>>>>> persists. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 >>>>>> >>>>>> */A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when >>>>>> the need for illusion is deep./* >>>>>> >>>>>> ~ Saul Bellow, /To Jerusalem and Back/ >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Image NVDA certified expert >>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related >>>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net >>>>> >>>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of >>>>> the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one >>>>> of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are >>>>> nearest to you please visit >>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries >>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is >>>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following >>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out >>>>> how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following >>>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda >>>>> >>>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City >>>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go >>>>> to the following links. Software available >>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How >>>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library >>>>> computers >>>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ >>>>> >>>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the >>>>> following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The >>>>> certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified >>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully >>>>> passed the NVDA expert exam. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Image NVDA certified expert >>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related >>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net >>>> >>>> Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the >>>> APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of >>>> their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are >>>> nearest to you please visit >>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries >>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is >>>> installed on the APNK network please visit the following >>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out >>>> how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following >>>> linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda >>>> >>>> To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City >>>> Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go >>>> to the following links. Software available >>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How >>>> to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library >>>> computers >>>> https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ >>>> >>>> To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following >>>> link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page >>>> contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around >>>> the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. >>>> >>> -- >>> >> -- >> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. >> They ask: "How Happy are You?" >> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!" >> >> >> >> >> > |
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Oliver Edholm
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If you're willing to put on the website that'd be awesome, more add-ons are coming soon as well! A review is currently going on at https://nvda-addons.groups.io/g/nvda-addons/topic/automatic_alt_text/30298349?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,30298349 If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 03:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
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Oliver Edholm
Hi, it's Oliver, the author of this add-on!
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Awesome that you like it! If you have any suggestions for improvements or ideas for other add-ons don't hesitate to contact me at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:27 PM, David Moore wrote:
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Oliver Edholm
Hi! Funny you said, I'm actually working on an NVDA add-on to solve captchas by connecting to an anti captcha service right now... The current Image Describer add-on will probably not solve the captchas though.
It'll be for free if you solve under a certain amount of captchas per day, would love to have some test users before I release anything though, please contact at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com if you're interested. |
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Oliver Edholm
Hi!
Right now I'm not storing any of the images for privacy reasons. The descriptions are going to get better though, eventually the add-on will also do face detection, emotion recognition, icon classification and some sort of OCR. Regarding videos I'd love to know more about the use case, it's doable from a technical standpoint. I'm reachable at oliver.edholm[at]gmail.com. |
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