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Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?


Kwork
 

As the Seeing AI app for the iPhone is a Microsoft product, I wonder if there is an equivalent, either as an NVDA add-on, or through using the Windows 10 operating system somehow, either through a store app or something built-in that NVDA or narrator can access, to describe photos. I've had almost no success using the NVDA+r command to OCR the current screen to do so, so wondered if there were more advanced options available as the iPhone app works reasonably well for what it is.

Thanks.

Travis


Oliver Edholm
 

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Mallard
 

Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for this one!


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Mallard
 

Well,


Microsoft isn't even porting Seeing AI to  Android... I don't think they'll want to make it available for Windows, but I hope I'm wrong...


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/03/2019 04:23, Kwork ha scritto:
As the Seeing AI app for the iPhone is a Microsoft product, I wonder if there is an equivalent, either as an NVDA add-on, or through using the Windows 10 operating system somehow, either through a store app or something built-in that NVDA or narrator can access, to describe photos. I've had almost no success using the NVDA+r command to OCR the current screen to do so, so wondered if there were more advanced options available as the iPhone app works reasonably well for what it is.

Thanks.

Travis




 

Agreed, though I hope we both are going wrong on this one!

It would be wonderful to have something like Seeing AI on Windows.


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Em 15/03/2019 05:32, Mallard escreveu:

Well,


Microsoft isn't even porting Seeing AI to  Android... I don't think they'll want to make it available for Windows, but I hope I'm wrong...


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 04:23, Kwork ha scritto:
As the Seeing AI app for the iPhone is a Microsoft product, I wonder if there is an equivalent, either as an NVDA add-on, or through using the Windows 10 operating system somehow, either through a store app or something built-in that NVDA or narrator can access, to describe photos. I've had almost no success using the NVDA+r command to OCR the current screen to do so, so wondered if there were more advanced options available as the iPhone app works reasonably well for what it is.

Thanks.

Travis










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When asked they always say they will release it on other platforms, but I suspect its quite low down the pecking order. The whole project is in fact a way to get feedback on their AI system as far as I can tell, and as such I'd have thought putting it on other platforms might help them tweak the thing. Maybe they have had other priorities like making sure Windows 10 does not brick 1 in 10 machines every half year... grin.
Incidentally Seeing AI had an update yesterday, and Be My Eyes has added Google helpdesk to their free pro help section.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?


Well,


Microsoft isn't even porting Seeing AI to Android... I don't think
they'll want to make it available for Windows, but I hope I'm wrong...


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 04:23, Kwork ha scritto:
As the Seeing AI app for the iPhone is a Microsoft product, I wonder if there is an equivalent, either as an NVDA add-on, or through using the Windows 10 operating system somehow, either through a store app or something built-in that NVDA or narrator can access, to describe photos. I've had almost no success using the NVDA+r command to OCR the current screen to do so, so wondered if there were more advanced options available as the iPhone app works reasonably well for what it is.

Thanks.

Travis





Oliver Edholm
 

Awesome! Thank you for letting me know!

More add-ons are coming soon :)


On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:29 AM, Mallard wrote:
Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for this one!


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
I recently released something similar to what you're talking about,
it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to
get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be
downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Mallard
 

I can't wait! If they're all this good, may you be blessed forever!


Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/03/2019 12:29, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
Awesome! Thank you for letting me know!

More add-ons are coming soon :)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:29 AM, Mallard wrote:

Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for
this one!


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking
about,
it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The
shortcut to
get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on
can be
downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Ron Canazzi
 

Yeah, what a breakthrough if you succeed in creating a new capcha solving add on.


Thanks for what you have done so far and e are all wishing the best for your continued involvement and development!

On 3/15/2019 7:44 AM, Mallard wrote:
I can't wait! If they're all this good, may you be blessed forever!


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 15/03/2019 12:29, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:
Awesome! Thank you for letting me know!

More add-ons are coming soon :)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 01:29 AM, Mallard wrote:

    Ah, so you're the author! No words are enough to thank you for
    this one!


    Ciao,

    Ollie




    Il 15/03/2019 07:42, Oliver Edholm ha scritto:

        I recently released something similar to what you're talking
        about,
        it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The
        shortcut to
        get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on
        can be
        downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


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Alina
 

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

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In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Devin Prater
 

Okay, the only problem right now is, how will we know when there are updates to the addon? Joseph Lee on the Windows 10 group for screen reader users has made an addon updater that you could use, but how you can get in touch with him for that I'm not sure.
Devin Prater
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On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:39 AM Alina <alina.vidican.2014@...> wrote:

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

Sent from my Mi A2

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16

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In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Oliver Edholm
 

Will always make all updates, on the www.screenreader.ai website, otherwise I could make some sort of mailing list if people want. I could also include some message saying there's a newer version in the image descriptions :)


On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 08:58 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
Okay, the only problem right now is, how will we know when there are updates to the addon? Joseph Lee on the Windows 10 group for screen reader users has made an addon updater that you could use, but how you can get in touch with him for that I'm not sure.
Devin Prater
sent from Gmail.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:39 AM Alina <alina.vidican.2014@...> wrote:

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

Sent from my Mi A2

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16

http://branham.org/

In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/

 

 


Kwork
 

Hi Oliver,

The Image Describer is what really got me thinking. So far, it'll quickly describe what's available in the photos I've tried, but instead of reading the text, it just says "text." Thanks for your work on this so far, and for any enhancements you are able to do as time/resources permit.

Travis

On 3/14/2019 11:42 PM, Oliver Edholm wrote:
I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


 

Oliver,

The option of including a message on the add-on itself informing of a new version is a good idea indeed.

However, have you ever thought of doing kind of a newsletter, as you have other project in the works?

So the newsletter would inform the folks interested on your add-ons, at once, every time one or more of them would be with an update.


Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 15/03/2019 15:20, Oliver Edholm escreveu:

Will always make all updates, on the www.screenreader.ai website, otherwise I could make some sort of mailing list if people want. I could also include some message saying there's a newer version in the image descriptions :)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 08:58 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
Okay, the only problem right now is, how will we know when there are updates to the addon? Joseph Lee on the Windows 10 group for screen reader users has made an addon updater that you could use, but how you can get in touch with him for that I'm not sure.
Devin Prater
sent from Gmail.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:39 AM Alina <alina.vidican.2014@...> wrote:

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

Sent from my Mi A2

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16

http://branham.org/

In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/

 

 


abdul muhamin
 

Hi, I’ve used your addon, its good. But, if it read text in the picture, it will be more useful, and one thing more, add your addon in the addon updater, and on the official nvda addons website. It will be beneficial for everyone

 

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From: Oliver Edholm
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2019 11:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Seeing AI for NVDA, Windows 10 or both?

 

Will always make all updates, on the www.screenreader.ai website, otherwise I could make some sort of mailing list if people want. I could also include some message saying there's a newer version in the image descriptions :)

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 08:58 AM, Devin Prater wrote:

Okay, the only problem right now is, how will we know when there are updates to the addon? Joseph Lee on the Windows 10 group for screen reader users has made an addon updater that you could use, but how you can get in touch with him for that I'm not sure.

Devin Prater

sent from Gmail.

 

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 9:39 AM Alina <alina.vidican.2014@...> wrote:

I must try this add-on, thanks for this!

Sent from my Mi A2

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

John 3:16

http://branham.org/

In data 15 marzo 2019 08:42:28 "Oliver Edholm" <oliver.edholm@...> ha scritto:

I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/

 

 

 


Kevin Cussick
 

I tried this addon and think it is very good thanks for your work.

On 3/15/2019 6:42 AM, Oliver Edholm wrote:
I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/


Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Oliver


This is very promising addons to be use with.

Just like to ask since we are talking about image is this possible to read as well some of the capture image that is commonly used to embed in site.primarily this is majority of us and having to solve but, at least give us easy way to solve rather than hearing theaudio instead. Thanks. On 3/16/2019 5:55 AM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

I tried this addon and think it is very good thanks for your work.

On 3/15/2019 6:42 AM, Oliver Edholm wrote:
I recently released something similar to what you're talking about, it's called "Image describer" and is an NVDA add-on. The shortcut to get a description for an image is NVDA+Control+I. The add-on can be downloaded at http://www.screenreader.ai/