auto run file
Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
hi guys
is it possible to create an auto run file to place
on a flash drive, so that the portable copy of NVDA will launch as soon as the
flash drive is placed into the USB port?
if so how can it be done?
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Hi Keryn. Here is a sample of an Autorun.inf file. Copy the below code: [autorun]
Save the autorun.inf file onto the root of your USB drive. Cheers!
On 3/22/2019 8:36 AM, Kerryn Gunness
via Groups.Io wrote:
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For all practical intents and purposes, no.
Autorun is a function of Windows, and it has been turned off for ages now because it became apparent that it posed a significant security threat not too terribly long in to its use. You could probably do it on your own machine, and I wouldn't advise doing so, but most machines are going to have Autorun disabled so it doesn't matter what you have set up as far as an autorun script on your thumb drive. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
If i remember right the auto play function was turned off back in Windows 7 or was it 8?
If you want stuff to autoplay you will need to turn it on in your machine. It will work on a CD but do not think it runs any more with a usb stick.
You have to start NVDA another way. I do have some examples on my nvda audio turtorials page on different ways of starting nvda. if you are going to another machine learn the 2 shortcuts to turn it on then start nvda from off the usb stick that way. Alot easier for new people.
When you get to the web page jump down to the section for usb stick or CD and or autoplay and to turn it on.
it can be found on the following page at http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html There are a few different ways.
Hope it helps.
Gene nz
On 22/03/2019 1:36 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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Gene
Windows doesn't run autorun files automatically any
longer from thumb drives as a security measure against malicious code
running. You can run Narrator, run NVDA, then close Narrator.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi Keryn. Here is a sample of an Autorun.inf file. Copy the below code: [autorun] Save the autorun.inf file onto the root of your USB drive. Cheers! On 3/22/2019 8:36 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi again
You could also try the following this is more if you only have the nvda files on the USB stick but not in the nvda directory.
Press the Windows key + letter R then type in the following e:nvda.exe then press the enter key
If it is the e: drive one then nvda will start off the USB stick.
Some times what can happen is the USB stick might be another letter so you might have to try some others.
So in the run dialogue if the previous one did not work it might be f:nvda.exe then press the enter key to start it up.
Some times it brings up the contents of the USB stick and all the times it just strts NVDA.
I just tried it and the default voice on the stick is the Windows 10 one but on the computer is e speak.
Just to make sure i will change the voice on the usb stick and redo.
Gene nz
On 22/03/2019 1:36 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
Just tried it with another voice off the USB stick and it is loading off the USB stick and not the computer.
It also looks as though now you do not have to put in the backslash like before for example e:\nvda.exe as shown.
I was also using a windows 10 computer running the latest version of nvda 2019.1 rc1
I will note this on the website. Could any one else confirm it works and not the installer version but the USB version.
It will not work on the windows log on screen with a portable version I can not try it that way as mine all boot into windows. But would be wondering if it was used with the run dialogue box entering in the drive letterthen nvda.exe like shown would it start up?
Gene nz
On 22/03/2019 1:36 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam. |
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Yes. But there are ways, and there are ways. And as long as you
run it on your own computer and put yourself at risk and not
others, then it will still work just as long as you know what
you're doing. Cheers! On 3/22/2019 11:32 AM, Gene wrote:
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Gene
The whole point of having NVDA on a thumb drive is
to run it on other machines where it isn't installed. Why would you want
to run it on your own machine from a thumb drive in the first place? I
don't know anything about disabling this feature but it sounds to me as though
if you do, you open yourself up to malicious software if you use a thumb drive
from someone else. I see no reason to take risks just to make running
something easier.
And you can run it very easily on your own machine
without lowering security. Create a short cut to the exe file on the thumb
drive. Then assign a short cut command such as control alt d or control
alt a or whatever such combination you like. That is so fast and
convenient that there isn't any remotely justifiable reason to needlessly lower
security for convenience.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Yes. But there are ways, and there are ways. And as long as you run it
on your own computer and put yourself at risk and not others, then it will
still work just as long as you know what you're doing. Cheers! On 3/22/2019 11:32 AM, Gene wrote:
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Gene
Also, you said, if you put yourself at risk, not
others. If a machine becomes infected, it may cause problems for others,
not just you. It may be part of a botnet and take part in denial of
service attacks, shutting down web sites. It may be used by malware to
mail spam, thus exposing people to phishing and other kinds of fraud. The
malware may try to spread itself to other machines on your network.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
The whole point of having NVDA on a thumb drive is
to run it on other machines where it isn't installed. Why would you want
to run it on your own machine from a thumb drive in the first place? I
don't know anything about disabling this feature but it sounds to me as though
if you do, you open yourself up to malicious software if you use a thumb drive
from someone else. I see no reason to take risks just to make running
something easier.
And you can run it very easily on your own machine
without lowering security. Create a short cut to the exe file on the thumb
drive. Then assign a short cut command such as control alt d or control
alt a or whatever such combination you like. That is so fast and
convenient that there isn't any remotely justifiable reason to needlessly lower
security for convenience.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Yes. But there are ways, and there are ways. And as long as you run it
on your own computer and put yourself at risk and not others, then it will
still work just as long as you know what you're doing. Cheers! On 3/22/2019 11:32 AM, Gene wrote:
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Well, the questioner didn't specifically say what he wanted that
feature for. Probably he has 2 pcs and he wants to install a
portable copy on his thumb drive to use it on the one that doesn't
have NVDA on it to save the hassle of a second install, he may
well have his reasons for asking. On 3/22/2019 1:43 PM, Gene wrote:
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Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
Search thoroughly on the internet and you will find there are
risk free ways to do this. I wouldn't, however, recommend it to
anyone without technical knowledge. On 3/22/2019 1:48 PM, Gene wrote:
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Gene
You can't assume such things. And whatever
the reasons, there is no reason to lower security, as I demonstrated in my first
message. Also, the person didn't say if he wants to run it on his computer
or someone else's.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Well, the questioner didn't specifically say what he wanted that feature
for. Probably he has 2 pcs and he wants to install a portable copy on his
thumb drive to use it on the one that doesn't have NVDA on it to save the hassle
of a second install, he may well have his reasons for asking. On 3/22/2019 1:43 PM, Gene wrote:
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 5:48 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] auto run file Also, you said, if you put yourself at risk, not others. If a machine becomes infected, it may cause problems for others, not just you. It may be part of a botnet and take part in denial of service attacks, shutting down web sites. It may be used by malware to mail spam, thus exposing people to phishing and other kinds of fraud. The malware may try to spread itself to other machines on your network. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 12:43 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] auto run file The whole point of having NVDA on a thumb drive is to run it on other machines where it isn't installed. Why would you want to run it on your own machine from a thumb drive in the first place? I don't know anything about disabling this feature but it sounds to me as though if you do, you open yourself up to malicious software if you use a thumb drive from someone else. I see no reason to take risks just to make running something easier. And you can run it very easily on your own machine without lowering security. Create a short cut to the exe file on the thumb drive. Then assign a short cut command such as control alt d or control alt a or whatever such combination you like. That is so fast and convenient that there isn't any remotely justifiable reason to needlessly lower security for convenience. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaffar Sidek Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 12:32 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] auto run file Yes. But there are ways, and there are ways. And as long as you run it on your own computer and put yourself at risk and not others, then it will still work just as long as you know what you're doing. Cheers! On 3/22/2019 11:32 AM, Gene wrote: Windows doesn't run autorun files automatically any longer from thumb drives as a security measure against malicious code running. You can run Narrator, run NVDA, then close Narrator. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Jaffar Sidek Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:38 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] auto run file Hi Keryn. Here is a sample of an Autorun.inf file. Copy the below code: [autorun] ;Open=NVDA.exe ShellExecute=NVDA.exe UseAutoPlay=1 Save the autorun.inf file onto the root of your USB drive. Cheers! On 3/22/2019 8:36 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote: hi guys is it possible to create an auto run file to place on a flash drive, so that the portable copy of NVDA will launch as soon as the flash drive is placed into the USB port? if so how can it be done? thanks kerryn |
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Kerryn Gunness <k_gunness@...>
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thanks everyone for the info
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ADRIAN POCOCK
Hi All There is a way of autorun from a thumb drive by using the below Use a U3 smart drive (or similar). These USB drives have a built-in firmware that presents them as CD drive when they are inserted into a computer. These kinds of USB flash drives are not affected by the changes in Windows 7. Autorun will work as it was a CD. U3 smart drives are primarily used to run programs directly from the USB flash drive and are generally not used to install programs. If you only need to run a program locally, and don't need to install, a U3 smart drive can be an option. But if you need to install files or update settings in the operating system (for example in the Registry) a U3 smart drive can not be used. The basic idea of U3 technology is that when the drive is removed from the host computer, there should be no traces left in that computer. Regards Adrian Pocock On 22/03/2019 05:32, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
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