Hi people.
I have for You one question.
Maybe there are also some chinese people too.
I have heard about various advantages and disadvantages of every method to write Chinese by various input methods in computer.
So, My question is:
What method do You prefer to write Chinese?
Ofcourse, hand writing We can excluded, but there are various methods also. Ofcourse, I known something about various chinese braille systems, but do You use Pinyin? Do You use Bopomofo? Or, do You rather prefer Wubi, or Cangjie to write chinese?

Please, if You are on QQ, send me question there, because I would like to write article about It on My blog in Slovak.

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros

Thank You.

I would like to try to write Chinese characters, but Microsoft Pinyin is
not very well ordered in symplified chinese, but in traditional
taiwanese Zhuyin are tone very well presented.

Also, Google Pinyin is the best to write symplified, or traditional
letters.

From My experience, I mostly prefer to write Mandarin in traditional
letters, because in traditional Chinese one letter can have various
meanings, not like in symplified system.

This is My opinion about It.

I understand Mandarin, but what about Cantonese?

I have noticed, that Hongkong keyboard is on style cangjie, or speedy
cangjie, which is method based on this, how characters are written down.

I don't know, if there are some jiutping alternatives for Windows.

So, It was about writing using keyboard.

But, what about Braille?

 So, about Chinese braille, there is mainland China braille table,
Taiwanese braile and Cantonese for Hongkong speaker.

But, NVDA currently supported every braile, althought mainland chinese
Mandarin braille.

Thank You.

Marco

There are numerous Chinese input methods. This was a key problem when
processing Chinese with computers. There are roughly one hunderd
thousand number of Chinese characters. About six thousand of them are
mostly used in daily life. But there are only about one hunderd keys on
keyboard. At first publishing houses use big key board with many keys.
Input methods based on pinyin or zhuyin is not very popular at that time
since you need to spend many time on finding the correct character you
want to type. Also users at that time mostly rely on word processing
jobs, accuracy and efficiency is important.
A man called Wang JiangMin invented WuBi.With that you can type in most
Chinese character within four letters, as long as you memorize a set of
rules and practice for about a week.
At about 2006, people brought smart prediction into pinyin input
methods. The experience of pinyin input methods are much better now.
Since most people in mainland China have already learned pinyin in
primary school. Other types of input methods which requires additional
rules practice start fading away. Few people learn other input methods.
Wubi and other input methods are now learned by professionals and
enthusiasts. Sougou is the most popular one of these pinyin input
methods. But smart prediction is based on collecting your keyborad input
data, so there is a privacy issue. Sougou pinyin also pop up
advertisement sometimes. So I do not recomment using this. Input methods
bundled with operation system is just enough.

Support for microsoft pinyin and wubi is broken in windows 10 and 8.1 so
you may find it hard to use.

As for braille.
There are three types of braille in mainland China. Two of them are in
NVDA, another one has just been published about a year ago and has not
gain popularity yet. However all of them are based on pinyin. They
cannot represent the shape of Chinese characters. Most schools for blind
in mainland China do not teach how to write Chinese characters. So even
if you use braille input, you still have to choose between many
candidates. Someone created a braille based on Chinese characters, but
it is not widely used. Braille display is more expensive than smart
phones and computers and its usage is very limited. Braille has
advantage in proof reading and learing but the nature of Chinese braille
make braille less appealing for students. Word segmentation and tone
mark makes braille even harder to understand. Even braile itself is not
popular among blind people in China.

I kind of agree with you sir. I'm a Chinese Immigrant and I studied at the
Beijing School for the Blind for 3 years and In BSB Students are required
to learn braille. During Computer classes,I was taught how to use a Screen
reader called Sunshine. I was also taught to use Sogou. Another advantage
about Sougou is that a person can custemmize it's dictionary that make's
life much easier for those people who are doing a job as a court reporter.
Braille display is an expensive tool in China that a blind person by itself
can't afford. Only the School for the Blind and the Beijing Talking book
Library or the Braille and Talking book Library of China have them. Thanks
Best Regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
National Federation of the Blind of Virginia www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu





On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 10:22 AM Clement Chou <chou.clement@...>
wrote:

Thanks for the fascinating information Larry!

On 4/7/19, Larry Wang <larry.wang.801@...> wrote:

There are numerous Chinese input methods. This was a key problem when
processing Chinese with computers. There are roughly one hunderd
thousand number of Chinese characters. About six thousand of them are
mostly used in daily life. But there are only about one hunderd keys on
keyboard. At first publishing houses use big key board with many keys.
Input methods based on pinyin or zhuyin is not very popular at that
time
since you need to spend many time on finding the correct character you
want to type. Also users at that time mostly rely on word processing
jobs, accuracy and efficiency is important.
A man called Wang JiangMin invented WuBi.With that you can type in most
Chinese character within four letters, as long as you memorize a set of
rules and practice for about a week.
At about 2006, people brought smart prediction into pinyin input
methods. The experience of pinyin input methods are much better now.
Since most people in mainland China have already learned pinyin in
primary school. Other types of input methods which requires additional
rules practice start fading away. Few people learn other input methods.
Wubi and other input methods are now learned by professionals and
enthusiasts. Sougou is the most popular one of these pinyin input
methods. But smart prediction is based on collecting your keyborad
input
data, so there is a privacy issue. Sougou pinyin also pop up
advertisement sometimes. So I do not recomment using this. Input
methods
bundled with operation system is just enough.

Support for microsoft pinyin and wubi is broken in windows 10 and 8.1
so
you may find it hard to use.

As for braille.
There are three types of braille in mainland China. Two of them are in
NVDA, another one has just been published about a year ago and has not
gain popularity yet. However all of them are based on pinyin. They
cannot represent the shape of Chinese characters. Most schools for
blind
in mainland China do not teach how to write Chinese characters. So even
if you use braille input, you still have to choose between many
candidates. Someone created a braille based on Chinese characters, but
it is not widely used. Braille display is more expensive than smart
phones and computers and its usage is very limited. Braille has
advantage in proof reading and learing but the nature of Chinese
braille
make braille less appealing for students. Word segmentation and tone
mark makes braille even harder to understand. Even braile itself is not
popular among blind people in China.

Hi Brian.

Japanese Braille doesn't differentiate between Katakana and Hiragana
symbols. But it would be closer to say that the braille represents
Hiragana. That is a little difficult to explain though if you don't
know the three writing systems and the way they work, which is beyond
the scope of this topic.

And as a general uestion since we're discussing Chinese, does anyone
know of any tts voices that suporting reading of any hinese dialects
aside from Mandarin and Cantonese? I am looking specifically for one
that reads the Min-nan dialect, also known as fujian, Hokkien,
taiwanese, etc.

On 4/8/19, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> wrote:

I kind of agree with you sir. I'm a Chinese Immigrant and I studied at the
Beijing School for the Blind for 3 years and In BSB Students are required
to learn braille. During Computer classes,I was taught how to use a Screen
reader called Sunshine. I was also taught to use Sogou. Another advantage
about Sougou is that a person can custemmize it's dictionary that make's
life much easier for those people who are doing a job as a court reporter.
Braille display is an expensive tool in China that a blind person by itself
can't afford. Only the School for the Blind and the Beijing Talking book
Library or the Braille and Talking book Library of China have them. Thanks
Best Regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
National Federation of the Blind of Virginia www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu





On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 10:22 AM Clement Chou <chou.clement@...>
wrote:

Thanks for the fascinating information Larry!

On 4/7/19, Larry Wang <larry.wang.801@...> wrote:

There are numerous Chinese input methods. This was a key problem when
processing Chinese with computers. There are roughly one hunderd
thousand number of Chinese characters. About six thousand of them are
mostly used in daily life. But there are only about one hunderd keys on
keyboard. At first publishing houses use big key board with many keys.
Input methods based on pinyin or zhuyin is not very popular at that
time
since you need to spend many time on finding the correct character you
want to type. Also users at that time mostly rely on word processing
jobs, accuracy and efficiency is important.
A man called Wang JiangMin invented WuBi.With that you can type in most
Chinese character within four letters, as long as you memorize a set of
rules and practice for about a week.
At about 2006, people brought smart prediction into pinyin input
methods. The experience of pinyin input methods are much better now.
Since most people in mainland China have already learned pinyin in
primary school. Other types of input methods which requires additional
rules practice start fading away. Few people learn other input methods.
Wubi and other input methods are now learned by professionals and
enthusiasts. Sougou is the most popular one of these pinyin input
methods. But smart prediction is based on collecting your keyborad
input
data, so there is a privacy issue. Sougou pinyin also pop up
advertisement sometimes. So I do not recomment using this. Input
methods
bundled with operation system is just enough.

Support for microsoft pinyin and wubi is broken in windows 10 and 8.1
so
you may find it hard to use.

As for braille.
There are three types of braille in mainland China. Two of them are in
NVDA, another one has just been published about a year ago and has not
gain popularity yet. However all of them are based on pinyin. They
cannot represent the shape of Chinese characters. Most schools for
blind
in mainland China do not teach how to write Chinese characters. So even
if you use braille input, you still have to choose between many
candidates. Someone created a braille based on Chinese characters, but
it is not widely used. Braille display is more expensive than smart
phones and computers and its usage is very limited. Braille has
advantage in proof reading and learing but the nature of Chinese
braille
make braille less appealing for students. Word segmentation and tone
mark makes braille even harder to understand. Even braile itself is not
popular among blind people in China.

hi
Zhengdu Screen Reader is divided into commercial version and craft version.
The craft version is free. The commercial version requires a fee. The
following is the download address of the craft version. You can download the
experience:
http://www.zd.hk/download-down-type-zdsr_pw.htm
Finally, if this information violates the relevant provisions of the forum,
the administrator can delete
Thank
There is no harm without comparison. I hope that NVDA can absorb 100 experts
and make up for their own shortcomings.
没有对比就没有伤害，希望NVDA可以吸收百家知长，补自家知短。

Mallard.

Google TTS and Vocalizer both have Taiwanese Mandarin which isn't
quite what I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is a different
dialect of Chinese which doesn't seem to have a tts voice for it. The
dialect is called Hokkien and is used in many places in addition to
China, and in Taiwan it's known as Taiwanese.

On 4/9/19, dingpengyu <dingpengyu06@...> wrote:

hi
Zhengdu Screen Reader is divided into commercial version and craft version.
The craft version is free. The commercial version requires a fee. The
following is the download address of the craft version. You can download the
experience:
http://www.zd.hk/download-down-type-zdsr_pw.htm
Finally, if this information violates the relevant provisions of the forum,
the administrator can delete
Thank
There is no harm without comparison. I hope that NVDA can absorb 100 experts
and make up for their own shortcomings.
没有对比就没有伤害，希望NVDA可以吸收百家知长，补自家知短。