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How to contact list members off list?


Akshaya Choudhary
 

Hello guys,
How can I contact people of this list personally via email? Only few people have their names as clickable links, which leads to their profile where their contact information is available. How to view the profiles of other people?
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Regards,
Sociohack


 

At the end of each message (or digest entry) there should be a "Reply to Sender" link for the sender of that message.  That will trigger your e-mail client to open a compose window with that sender's address already prepopulated.

Just like there is a group message archive, there is a group directory for those members who allow their e-mail address to appear in it:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/directory

Since there are over 1000 members of this group, the directory spans 17 pages of content and, I just noticed (as I've never used it) there is no search mechanism for the member directory.

If you happen to know some specific keywords of a message a certain member posted, you can also search the group archive (https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics)
for a message using those, and a link to that member's profile, and e-mail button, will be part of the message itself, presented as a link at the very start of the message.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Dan Beaver
 

I guess I haven't paid much attention to the links at the end of the posts.  I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 2:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
At the end of each message (or digest entry) there should be a "Reply to Sender" link for the sender of that message.  That will trigger your e-mail client to open a compose window with that sender's address already prepopulated.

Just like there is a group message archive, there is a group directory for those members who allow their e-mail address to appear in it:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/directory

Since there are over 1000 members of this group, the directory spans 17 pages of content and, I just noticed (as I've never used it) there is no search mechanism for the member directory.

If you happen to know some specific keywords of a message a certain member posted, you can also search the group archive (https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics)
for a message using those, and a link to that member's profile, and e-mail button, will be part of the message itself, presented as a link at the very start of the message.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

In NVDA, is there a key combination for this, as there is in Jaws?

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 11:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

 

I guess I haven't paid much attention to the links at the end of the posts.  I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.

 

Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 2:30 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

At the end of each message (or digest entry) there should be a "Reply to Sender" link for the sender of that message.  That will trigger your e-mail client to open a compose window with that sender's address already prepopulated.

Just like there is a group message archive, there is a group directory for those members who allow their e-mail address to appear in it:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/directory

Since there are over 1000 members of this group, the directory spans 17 pages of content and, I just noticed (as I've never used it) there is no search mechanism for the member directory.

If you happen to know some specific keywords of a message a certain member posted, you can also search the group archive (https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topics)
for a message using those, and a link to that member's profile, and e-mail button, will be part of the message itself, presented as a link at the very start of the message.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Gene
 

You don't have to get information from the profile and a lot of people won't have one.  What e-mail program are you using?  You can get the address from the message but the way may differ.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Hello guys,
How can I contact people of this list personally via email? Only few people have their names as clickable links, which leads to their profile where their contact information is available. How to view the profiles of other people?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.
Dan,

           Are you, by chance, using webmail?   Mailto: links won't necessarily work smoothly with some webmail.  If you bring up the context menu and copy that link, it is a mailto: link.

           It will have the word mailto: immediately followed by the sender's e-mail address, followed by a question mark, followed by what will be put in the message subject automatically.  You can snag the actual e-mail address that way if you're using webmail that does not respond to a mailto: link.

           I haven't encountered an actual e-mail client like Thunderbird, WLM, Outlook, etc., in a very long time that doesn't respond to a mailto: link by opening a compose window with the To: address and Subject: prepopulated based on what the link has in it.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:40 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
In NVDA, is there a key combination for this, as there is in Jaws?
It's not entirely clear what the "this" refers to.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Dan Beaver
 

Hi Brian,


No, I am using Thunderbird and it is the latest version.


Like I said, it appears that it does nothing at all.  I can't find any mailto: tags or anything like that.  It also isn't bringing up another new email screen.  Very strange.


Dan 

On 4/13/2019 3:06 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.
Dan,

           Are you, by chance, using webmail?   Mailto: links won't necessarily work smoothly with some webmail.  If you bring up the context menu and copy that link, it is a mailto: link.

           It will have the word mailto: immediately followed by the sender's e-mail address, followed by a question mark, followed by what will be put in the message subject automatically.  You can snag the actual e-mail address that way if you're using webmail that does not respond to a mailto: link.

           I haven't encountered an actual e-mail client like Thunderbird, WLM, Outlook, etc., in a very long time that doesn't respond to a mailto: link by opening a compose window with the To: address and Subject: prepopulated based on what the link has in it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

I was responding to the contacting of persons off list.  In Jaws, there is a key combination that allows you to reply directly to sender.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:40 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

In NVDA, is there a key combination for this, as there is in Jaws?

It's not entirely clear what the "this" refers to.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Dan Beaver
 

Actually, if I open the context menu on the reply to sender link and then click on the compose email to choice then it does open a new email and does populate the to: field with the sender's email address. 


But still clicking on the reply to sender link does nothing.


Dan

On 4/13/2019 3:06 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.
Dan,

           Are you, by chance, using webmail?   Mailto: links won't necessarily work smoothly with some webmail.  If you bring up the context menu and copy that link, it is a mailto: link.

           It will have the word mailto: immediately followed by the sender's e-mail address, followed by a question mark, followed by what will be put in the message subject automatically.  You can snag the actual e-mail address that way if you're using webmail that does not respond to a mailto: link.

           I haven't encountered an actual e-mail client like Thunderbird, WLM, Outlook, etc., in a very long time that doesn't respond to a mailto: link by opening a compose window with the To: address and Subject: prepopulated based on what the link has in it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Just for the fun of it, I tried, and it does work in Outlook.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

 

Actually, if I open the context menu on the reply to sender link and then click on the compose email to choice then it does open a new email and does populate the to: field with the sender's email address. 

 

But still clicking on the reply to sender link does nothing.

 

Dan

On 4/13/2019 3:06 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.

Dan,

           Are you, by chance, using webmail?   Mailto: links won't necessarily work smoothly with some webmail.  If you bring up the context menu and copy that link, it is a mailto: link.

           It will have the word mailto: immediately followed by the sender's e-mail address, followed by a question mark, followed by what will be put in the message subject automatically.  You can snag the actual e-mail address that way if you're using webmail that does not respond to a mailto: link.

           I haven't encountered an actual e-mail client like Thunderbird, WLM, Outlook, etc., in a very long time that doesn't respond to a mailto: link by opening a compose window with the To: address and Subject: prepopulated based on what the link has in it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


 

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


 

Hi,
Well I tried it just for giggles and it worked perfectly, except for the fact that, when I tried to close the new message window, my Thunderbird hmm crashed completely and I had to restart it.
What happens when you hit this link is as simple as that: A new message opens so you can type in with the "to" field being who sent this message and the "Private:" prefixing the subject.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 13/04/2019 16:17, Dan Beaver disse:

Actually, if I open the context menu on the reply to sender link and then click on the compose email to choice then it does open a new email and does populate the to: field with the sender's email address. 


But still clicking on the reply to sender link does nothing.


Dan

On 4/13/2019 3:06 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:37 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I just looked and yest there is a link for replying to sender.  However, I just tried to click on it and it does nothing for me.
Dan,

           Are you, by chance, using webmail?   Mailto: links won't necessarily work smoothly with some webmail.  If you bring up the context menu and copy that link, it is a mailto: link.

           It will have the word mailto: immediately followed by the sender's e-mail address, followed by a question mark, followed by what will be put in the message subject automatically.  You can snag the actual e-mail address that way if you're using webmail that does not respond to a mailto: link.

           I haven't encountered an actual e-mail client like Thunderbird, WLM, Outlook, etc., in a very long time that doesn't respond to a mailto: link by opening a compose window with the To: address and Subject: prepopulated based on what the link has in it.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Judy Jones <sonshines59@...>
 

Hi, you are right in some cases.

 

On some lists with Jaws you can press Jawskey-shift-r, and the sender’s individual e-mail will come up.  It seems to work in groups.io, but not on the nfbnet lists.  I am using Outlook 2010 with Windows 10.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

 

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


 

Dan,

            Just curious; what version of Outlook are you running?  
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 03:25 PM, marcio wrote:
my Thunderbird hmm crashed completely
I can guarantee you that this should not be the characteristic behavior.   I've had pretty much any e-mail client crash on me at some point, but never consistently in response to using any mailto: link.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Dan Beaver
 

I am not running outlook. I am using Thunderbird with a connection to Gmail.


Dan

On 4/13/2019 3:27 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Dan,

            Just curious; what version of Outlook are you running?  
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Gene
 

That key combination only works in certain programs and I don't know if it is supported in any programs any more. 
 
There are different ways to get the address and the exact procedure varies according to program.  We now know that the person who originally asked the question is using Thunderbird.  I don't use Thunderbird, though I have it on my machine.  I may have found a way when just looking at the program. 

I moved to a message in the list, open the context menu, and look through it.  There is a reply to sender item in that menu.  You can see if it works for list mail. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

I was responding to the contacting of persons off list.  In Jaws, there is a key combination that allows you to reply directly to sender.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 02:40 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

In NVDA, is there a key combination for this, as there is in Jaws?

It's not entirely clear what the "this" refers to.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


 

Well actually I found out that it wasn't crashed.
I tried it again and I got the same thing. As soon as I hit CTRL+W to close the new message window NVDA says "Loading..." and that's it.
However, this time I haven't restarted Thunderbird, I just pressed CTRL+W again and all's working now.

Weird things can happen sometimes...
Or it's just me that should test twice before reporting something. LOL

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 13/04/2019 16:29, Brian Vogel disse:

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 03:25 PM, marcio wrote:
my Thunderbird hmm crashed completely
I can guarantee you that this should not be the characteristic behavior.   I've had pretty much any e-mail client crash on me at some point, but never consistently in response to using any mailto: link.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 



 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 03:31 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I am not running outlook. I am using Thunderbird with a connection to Gmail.
Interesting.   I generally read my Gmail via the web interface, but just tried doing the same through Outlook 2016, the latest version of Thunderbird.

Under Outlook 2016, when I activate the Reply to Sender link it actually causes a reply message to be opened in my default web browser for that Gmail account (which also happens to be logged in to Google for other reasons).

Under Thunderbird, it instantly does exactly what I'd previously described, opens a compose Window in Thunderbird with To: and Subject: prepopulated, while also opening a separate Thunderbird tab.

I'll have to try this under WLM 2012 on my other machine later, as I don't have the pertinent Gmail account set up on this one and don't want to bother doing so.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey