problem with newest version of potplayer and nvda
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mslion
Dear all,
for some reason I can not access the context menu of the potplayer wherein all the options are located. any tips? With kind regards, Mitchel Snel |
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I believe that they've made the latest version inaccessible. The behavior I'm seeing is really a first (literally).
If you hit the context menu key or SHIFT+F10 to make the main menu appear it appears in its own free-floating window, which I can start traversing via down arrow, but there's not a peep out of NVDA on any of it. It's the first time I've seen this particular style of pop up menu, and on one particular activation it popped up half way across my screen in a window that did not even touch the parent window. This is when nothing is playing and there's plenty of screen real estate to keep the two windows close to or touching each other. Also, I tried object navigation in the PotPlayer main window and each and every object is announced as "Unknown." I haven't used PotPlayer in ages and I suspect this was one of those major rewrites where an awful lot of what came before (including accessibility) probably got tossed out. Baby with the bathwater . . . This is for PotPlayer 64-bit, Version 1.7.18344 with the latest version of NVDA. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. ~ Edward Abbey
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Hello, I think I know what's going on. From a version of PotPlayer onward, by default, the player uses a customized context/pop-up menu, based on the skin. Fortunately however, this behavior can be changed. To do it, open PotPlayer, press F5 to open its preferences, from the tree view of settings categories expand "General" and then go down to "Skin". Then with TAB find the combo box labeled "Context/pop-up menu" (I'm not exactly sure of the english label - my copy of PotPlayer is in bulgarian) and from that combo box select "System menu". Then go to the "OK" button and activate it. Restart the player, if asked to do so and you're done - now the pop-up/context menu of PotPlayer should be readable again.______ На 17.4.2019 г. в 16:46, mslion написа:
Dear all, for some reason I can not access the context menu of the potplayer wherein all the options are located. any tips? With kind regards, Mitchel Snel |
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Kostadin,
Brilliant! (and arcane). I would never, in a million years, have found this, or probably even tried it had I gotten to those settings, since the skinned version of the context menu presents precisely the same information as the system version does. It must be the skin overlay that is the root of the accessibility problem. Works like a charm after tweaking that setting (or at least the menu does). I restarted the player even though it didn't force me to do so. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. ~ Edward Abbey
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mslion
Thanks worked great I did not even have ot restart the player.
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On 4/17/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Hello, And some other tips from me about PotPlayer. From the list of skins to use (there is a submenu for them in the main pop-up menu), select to use the "Window Frame Skin - WindowFrame.dsf". That skin obeys the theme in use in Windows, which is specially important when using a high-contrast Windows theme. PotPlayer is generally accessible. The only main thing that is not accessible now is the playlist editor, specially the list of items in the playlist. Previously it was accessible. From what I've read on the PotPlayer forum, the inaccessibility was caused by the change in the type of control used for the list control for the playlist. I don't know what is used now, but previously a standard "SysListView32" control was used. Unfortunately, the PotPlayer developer seams not willing to revert it to a standard control, probably due to better performance and functionality of this new type of control in comparison with "SysListView32". Also, if you go to PotPlayer Preferences -> Accessibility, you
can configure if the player should output via SAPI5/OneCore or via
the currently running screen reader (via UIA) things like
on-screen messages, subtitles and tooltips from the skin controls.
In my opinion, that is very useful, specially for the on-screen
messages and the subtitles (the tooltips from the skin controls
are read by NVDA without this function, if NVDA is configured to
read tooltips via its Settings -> Object Presentation). ______ На 17.4.2019 г. в 17:18, Brian Vogel
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hi.
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playlist editor? whats the last accessible version? and about new skin, i believe that it applies only in newer versions of windows. am i right? because i tested one version before the version that you mentioned and pressing application key, worked for me as it worked in previous versions of program! but, i really appreciate your helpful advice for this problem, God bless you and his special mercy i pray for you! On 4/17/19, Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@...> wrote:
Hello, --
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JM Casey
I’ve never used this particular one, but this seems to be the case with other media players too, like Winamp and Foobar. All have a lot of skin options available; most of them seem to break accessibility somehow.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Kostadin, Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. ~ Edward Abbey
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