Changing the way NVDA pronounces non-English words


Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

Hi friends,

Is there a way to make NVDA pronounce non-English words and make it
pronounce the way I would like it to?

Cheers,

Manoj

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This is not a simple question to answer, and particularly not without additional context.

I am presuming you are talking about non-English words inserted into English language text.  That can be done, but is generally fiddly until you figure out how to come up with something that's a pronounceable substitute for the word that sounds right with the synthesizer you're using.  I am guessing we're talking about words from non-romance-languages.

A short list of examples, and knowing what synthesizer you're using, would be most helpful.

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Antony Stone
 

This is not really an NVDA question - it's more of a synthesiser question, so
please tell us which synth you use (and perhaps which other synths you feel
happy with) so people might be able to advise how to do what you want.

It might also be helpful to mention which non-English language/s you wish to
adjust the pronunciation of.

Antony.

On Wednesday 24 April 2019 at 00:54:25, Manoj Govindraj wrote:

Hi friends,

Is there a way to make NVDA pronounce non-English words and make it
pronounce the way I would like it to?

Cheers,

Manoj
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Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

I am sorry I forgot to mention that I use windows 1 core voice as my synth. I am inserting Hindi language words, e.g. the word chhota, which NVDA pronounces like kh when I wish it pronounces like ch.

On Apr 23, 2019, at 7:02 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

This is not a simple question to answer, and particularly not without additional context.

I am presuming you are talking about non-English words inserted into English language text.  That can be done, but is generally fiddly until you figure out how to come up with something that's a pronounceable substitute for the word that sounds right with the synthesizer you're using.  I am guessing we're talking about words from non-romance-languages.

A short list of examples, and knowing what synthesizer you're using, would be most helpful.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


 

What voice?    I just tried it  using Microsoft James, a One-Core voice, and it pronounces chhota with the opening sounding like church in English.   Are you looking for the sound like at the beginning of cotton?

No matter what it is you're trying to achieve with a specific synth and voice as far as tweaking how a given word is pronounced, you will use the Voice Dictionary for that voice and then start playing with "made up spellings" as the replacement for the real one that the synth pronounces using that voice the way you wish it to be pronounced.  It's trial and error.

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Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

Hi Brian,
I don't have microsoft James but I use microsoft Sara. i would want
the word Chhota to be pronounced like church and not like cotton. Will
also try playing with the NVDA voice dictionary. Thanks much for your
inputs.

Manoj

On 4/23/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
What voice? I just tried it using Microsoft James, a One-Core voice, and
it pronounces chhota with the opening sounding like church in English. Are
you looking for the sound like at the beginning of cotton?

No matter what it is you're trying to achieve with a specific synth and
voice as far as tweaking how a given word is pronounced, you will use the
Voice Dictionary for that voice and then start playing with "made up
spellings" as the replacement for the real one that the synth pronounces
using that voice the way you wish it to be pronounced. It's trial and
error.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.*

~ Edward Abbey




 

Manoj,

            I would try "chota" as the voice replacement for "chhota" to see if that will get you what you want.  My guess is that you'll get a long O with "chota."  If you're shooting for a short O try "chotta."    Like I said, there's some "creative spelling" with regard to what you use as the replacement and you do whatever you have to do to get the synthesizer to say what you want it to say.

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Ah glad to see you have the incredible not arrived till later email syndrome I have too.
Actually as the rest of his thread has now turned up here, I would also add this, even Sapi 5 voices like Serena and Daniel have apparently different rules. one can say Brian the other says Breean and needs me to put bryan to make it work so its always going to be a bit hit and miss I think.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing the way NVDA pronounces non-English words


This is not really an NVDA question - it's more of a synthesiser question, so
please tell us which synth you use (and perhaps which other synths you feel
happy with) so people might be able to advise how to do what you want.

It might also be helpful to mention which non-English language/s you wish to
adjust the pronunciation of.

Antony.

On Wednesday 24 April 2019 at 00:54:25, Manoj Govindraj wrote:

Hi friends,

Is there a way to make NVDA pronounce non-English words and make it
pronounce the way I would like it to?

Cheers,

Manoj
--
Please apologise my errors, since I have a very small device.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.