problem with NVDA screen reader


Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@...>
 

Hello,

I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.

He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.

My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.

He especially enjoys LSU sports website and  I tried without success to
get it to read the page.

I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.

Any idea  how to proceed?

Thanks in  advance for your help,

Curtis Golightly


Ian Westerland
 

Hello Curtis. NVDA might not be the problem. Experience tells me that when things suddenly go wrong with web browsing, check recent updates of the web browser being used and, if possible, remove the updates back to the version that last worked.

There are others on the list vastly more experienced and qualified than I am, but at least my suggestion is a starting point that has worked successfully for me.

Ian Westerland

On 4/25/2019 7:28 AM, Curtis Golightly wrote:
  Hello,
I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.
He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.
My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.
He especially enjoys LSU sports website and  I tried without success to
get it to read the page.
I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.
Any idea  how to proceed?
Thanks in  advance for your help,
Curtis Golightly


Jackie
 

Curtis, w/all due respect, you don't tell us a lot here, ie, what
version of windows is he using, what version of NVDA is he using, what
browser, has he tried another browser, etc. The other thing is, if
your friend/client messed up something in his NVDA configuration, that
is located in the users roaming folder & doesn't go away simply w/a
reinstall. There is an item in the NVDA menu to revert the
configuration to factory defaults. It's a last resort, though, if he
has settings already saved. NVDA also has a logging facility. The last
log can be viewed by pressing the NVDA modifier key + f1. You can view
these yourself or send 1 to the list if you feel stuck. Also, another
thing to try is to see if your friend has any addons installed, &
disable them if so. That applies both to NVDA itself as well as to the
browser.

You're a technician; therefore, you know how to troubleshoot. Screen
readers are a bit of a different kettle of fish, perhaps, but
troubleshooting them is similar to troubleshooting other pieces of
software. You're not as over your head as you think. There are a lot
of nice folks on here who are ready to help if at all possible.

On 4/24/19, Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@outlook.com> wrote:
  Hello,

I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.

He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.

My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.

He especially enjoys LSU sports website and  I tried without success to
get it to read the page.

I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.

Any idea  how to proceed?

Thanks in  advance for your help,

Curtis Golightly





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I'm not sure whether it'll help somehow, but just thought I'd chime in on this with this piece of information.
There's also an nvda-old.log file which can be accessed going to %appdata%\NVDA, which keep all of the information of the last time NVDA was restarted.

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Em 24/04/2019 18:52, Jackie disse:

Curtis, w/all due respect, you don't tell us a lot here, ie, what
version of windows is he using, what version of NVDA is he using, what
browser, has he tried another browser, etc. The other thing is, if
your friend/client messed up something in his NVDA configuration, that
is located in the users roaming folder & doesn't go away simply w/a
reinstall. There is an item in the NVDA menu to revert the
configuration to factory defaults. It's a last resort, though, if he
has settings already saved. NVDA also has a logging facility. The last
log can be viewed by pressing the NVDA modifier key + f1. You can view
these yourself or send 1 to the list if you feel stuck. Also, another
thing to try is to see if your friend has any addons installed, &
disable them if so. That applies both to NVDA itself as well as to the
browser.

You're a technician; therefore, you know how to troubleshoot. Screen
readers are a bit of a different kettle of fish, perhaps, but
troubleshooting them is similar to troubleshooting other pieces of
software. You're not as over your head as you think. There are a lot
of nice folks on here who are ready to help if at all possible.

On 4/24/19, Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@...> wrote:
 ?? Hello,

I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.

He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.

My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.

He especially enjoys LSU sports website and?? I tried without success to
get it to read the page.

I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.

Any idea?? how to proceed?

Thanks in?? advance for your help,

Curtis Golightly









Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@...>
 

I appreciate the info about configuration not going away when
reinstalled. How would I reset it to default. I don't know who
originally installed this software, but as far as I can  tell he has not
modified anything in it.

The OS is Windows 10, Release 1809, using IE11 for his browser. I did
try Edge and it made no difference.

After working on it earlier today and listening to his description of
when it happened I thought it might be due to a conflict with this
months Windows updates. I know they frequent break other applications.

On 4/24/2019 4:52 PM, Jackie wrote:
Curtis, w/all due respect, you don't tell us a lot here, ie, what
version of windows is he using, what version of NVDA is he using, what
browser, has he tried another browser, etc. The other thing is, if
your friend/client messed up something in his NVDA configuration, that
is located in the users roaming folder & doesn't go away simply w/a
reinstall. There is an item in the NVDA menu to revert the
configuration to factory defaults. It's a last resort, though, if he
has settings already saved. NVDA also has a logging facility. The last
log can be viewed by pressing the NVDA modifier key + f1. You can view
these yourself or send 1 to the list if you feel stuck. Also, another
thing to try is to see if your friend has any addons installed, &
disable them if so. That applies both to NVDA itself as well as to the
browser.

You're a technician; therefore, you know how to troubleshoot. Screen
readers are a bit of a different kettle of fish, perhaps, but
troubleshooting them is similar to troubleshooting other pieces of
software. You're not as over your head as you think. There are a lot
of nice folks on here who are ready to help if at all possible.

On 4/24/19, Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@outlook.com> wrote:
  Hello,

I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.

He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.

My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.

He especially enjoys LSU sports website and  I tried without success to
get it to read the page.

I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.

Any idea  how to proceed?

Thanks in  advance for your help,

Curtis Golightly






Gene
 

Let's not neglect very simple questions that might be so obvious they aren't asked.  Your description says it reads the first line or two, then stops or repeats.  But can the person move down the page using the down arrow key or can he use the read to end command to cause reading to continue? 
 
What Windows update are you describing?  A full upgrade or the usual security and stability updates?  I don't recall if you said you reinstalled NVDA but if a full update occurred and the problem occurred immediately after the update, uninstalling and reinstalling the screen-reader would be the first thing I would try after the usual reboot.
 
Gene

Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

I appreciate the info about configuration not going away when
reinstalled. How would I reset it to default. I don't know who
originally installed this software, but as far as I can  tell he has not
modified anything in it.

The OS is Windows 10, Release 1809, using IE11 for his browser. I did
try Edge and it made no difference.

After working on it earlier today and listening to his description of
when it happened I thought it might be due to a conflict with this
months Windows updates. I know they frequent break other applications.


On 4/24/2019 4:52 PM, Jackie wrote:
> Curtis, w/all due respect, you don't tell us a lot here, ie, what
> version of windows is he using, what version of NVDA is he using, what
> browser, has he tried another browser, etc. The other thing is, if
> your friend/client messed up something in his NVDA configuration, that
> is located in the users roaming folder & doesn't go away simply w/a
> reinstall. There is an item in the NVDA menu to revert the
> configuration to factory defaults. It's a last resort, though, if he
> has settings already saved. NVDA also has a logging facility. The last
> log can be viewed by pressing the NVDA modifier key + f1. You can view
> these yourself or send 1 to the list if you feel stuck. Also, another
> thing to try is to see if your friend has any addons installed, &
> disable them if so. That applies both to NVDA itself as well as to the
> browser.
>
> You're a technician; therefore, you know how to troubleshoot. Screen
> readers are a bit of a different kettle of fish, perhaps, but
> troubleshooting them is similar to troubleshooting other pieces of
> software. You're not as over your head as you think. There are a lot
> of nice folks on here who are ready to help if at all possible.
>
> On 4/24/19, Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@...> wrote:
>>     Hello,
>>
>> I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
>> technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.
>>
>> He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
>> worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
>> It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
>> repeats it.
>>
>> My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
>> clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
>> leave my friend without somewhere to turn.
>>
>> He especially enjoys LSU sports website and  I tried without success to
>> get it to read the page.
>>
>> I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
>> corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.
>>
>> Any idea  how to proceed?
>>
>> Thanks in  advance for your help,
>>
>> Curtis Golightly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>




Chris Shook
 

Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?


Jackie
 

Part of the problem is that Internet Explorer is essentially dead, &
Edge is still pretty iffy regarding accessibility.

Would your friend be willing to try Firefox or Chrome? I myself
personally like Firefox, but that's just moi. The truth is that the
commands from browser to browser used to differ for screen reader
users, thus resulting in having to learn new commands for each browser
you wished to use, but screenreaders have standardized a good bit over
the past few years, so that's no longer a consideration, in case
that's a fear of his.

Could you perhaps also please consider providing a link to the page
he's having trouble with, Curtis?

On 4/24/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@sero.email> wrote:
Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?



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Richard Wells
 

Could run com registration tool fix resolve this situation? Even if it
doesn't help, could it hurt?

On 4/24/2019 4:40 PM, Ian Westerland wrote:


Hello Curtis.  NVDA might not be the problem.  Experience tells me
that when things suddenly go wrong with web browsing, check recent
updates of the web browser being used and, if possible, remove the
updates back to the version that last worked.

There are others on the list vastly more experienced and qualified
than I am, but at least my suggestion is a starting point that has
worked successfully for me.

Ian Westerland




On 4/25/2019 7:28 AM, Curtis Golightly wrote:
    Hello,

I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.

He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.

My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.

He especially enjoys LSU sports website and  I tried without success to
get it to read the page.

I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not
help.

Any idea  how to proceed?

Thanks in  advance for your help,

Curtis Golightly





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I'd try it with Firefox or Chrome, as IE is very much a problem on web sites, and Edge is rubbish until they bring out the chrome based one later on.
I think it you bring up the nvda menu with insert n then you can find most of the bits of nvda to fiddle with. Make sure its the latest version of course but also in the case of windows 10 get the latest version of the windows 10 app extender from the add on site.
From the original description it sounds like somebody uninstalled an old office product. Put that back if they did as I've found this can screw up web page use since whoever wrote the office uninstall screwed up the registration of some crucial windows dll files. I know the registration tool covers most of the problems but there are still some outstanding. I have also found that if avast is on the system its a pain and needs removal assuming you can without reformatting the machine that is.
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From: "Curtis Golightly" <curtis.golightly@outlook.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader


I appreciate the info about configuration not going away when
reinstalled. How would I reset it to default. I don't know who
originally installed this software, but as far as I can tell he has not
modified anything in it.

The OS is Windows 10, Release 1809, using IE11 for his browser. I did
try Edge and it made no difference.

After working on it earlier today and listening to his description of
when it happened I thought it might be due to a conflict with this
months Windows updates. I know they frequent break other applications.


On 4/24/2019 4:52 PM, Jackie wrote:
Curtis, w/all due respect, you don't tell us a lot here, ie, what
version of windows is he using, what version of NVDA is he using, what
browser, has he tried another browser, etc. The other thing is, if
your friend/client messed up something in his NVDA configuration, that
is located in the users roaming folder & doesn't go away simply w/a
reinstall. There is an item in the NVDA menu to revert the
configuration to factory defaults. It's a last resort, though, if he
has settings already saved. NVDA also has a logging facility. The last
log can be viewed by pressing the NVDA modifier key + f1. You can view
these yourself or send 1 to the list if you feel stuck. Also, another
thing to try is to see if your friend has any addons installed, &
disable them if so. That applies both to NVDA itself as well as to the
browser.

You're a technician; therefore, you know how to troubleshoot. Screen
readers are a bit of a different kettle of fish, perhaps, but
troubleshooting them is similar to troubleshooting other pieces of
software. You're not as over your head as you think. There are a lot
of nice folks on here who are ready to help if at all possible.

On 4/24/19, Curtis Golightly <curtis.golightly@outlook.com> wrote:
Hello,

I hope you can point me in the right direction. I am a computer repair /
technician who has a client who is loosing his eye sight.

He choose to use NVDA as his screen reader and for several months it has
worked just fine for him. Starting last week it quit reading web pages.
It reads the banner, (top line or two), stops and does nothing or it
repeats it.

My knowledge of screen readers is limited, I do have a couple of other
clients who use Jaws, but I really am in over my head and yet I hate to
leave my friend without somewhere to turn.

He especially enjoys LSU sports website and I tried without success to
get it to read the page.

I tried removing and reinstalling NVDA in case there was some file
corruption or issue with the current profile settings, this did not help.

Any idea how to proceed?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Curtis Golightly







Arlene
 

‘ve never tried edge. I’d like to. Is it like IE?  I use IE and Chrome on this new win ten.

 

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From: Jackie
Sent: April 24, 2019 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

Part of the problem is that Internet Explorer is essentially dead, &

Edge is still pretty iffy regarding accessibility.

 

Would your friend be willing to try Firefox or Chrome? I myself

personally like Firefox, but that's just moi. The truth is that the

commands from browser to browser used to differ for screen reader

users, thus resulting in having to learn new commands for each browser

you wished to use, but screenreaders have standardized a good bit over

the past few years, so that's no longer a consideration, in case

that's a fear of his.

 

Could you perhaps also please consider providing a link to the page

he's having trouble with, Curtis?

 

On 4/24/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

> Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?

>

 

 

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hi


If you do want to try out edge the microsoft edge dev desk top version seems to work very nice.


the app version works ok but now with this new version i would use that .


The link to this version is https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/?form=MO12FO&OCID=MO12FO

It is chromium based and is almost like chrome its self in the lay out.


If you used chrome before you would know what i mean.


Hopefully before long i got a basic tutorial going up for it this weekend to the web site.

Plus it will make it a lot easier for some one to locate it and take it for a test drive if you get what i mean.


Gene nz





On 26/04/2019 10:12 AM, Arlene wrote:

‘ve never tried edge. I’d like to. Is it like IE?  I use IE and Chrome on this new win ten.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: April 24, 2019 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

Part of the problem is that Internet Explorer is essentially dead, &

Edge is still pretty iffy regarding accessibility.

 

Would your friend be willing to try Firefox or Chrome? I myself

personally like Firefox, but that's just moi. The truth is that the

commands from browser to browser used to differ for screen reader

users, thus resulting in having to learn new commands for each browser

you wished to use, but screenreaders have standardized a good bit over

the past few years, so that's no longer a consideration, in case

that's a fear of his.

 

Could you perhaps also please consider providing a link to the page

he's having trouble with, Curtis?

 

On 4/24/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

> Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?

>

 

 

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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


David Moore
 

Hi Jackie!

I use Narrator and NVDA to use Edge!

And I have very good luck with it.

I can brows many sites, stream media with it, and so on.

I like edge, especially using Narrator!

David Moore

 

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From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

‘ve never tried edge. I’d like to. Is it like IE?  I use IE and Chrome on this new win ten.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: April 24, 2019 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

Part of the problem is that Internet Explorer is essentially dead, &

Edge is still pretty iffy regarding accessibility.

 

Would your friend be willing to try Firefox or Chrome? I myself

personally like Firefox, but that's just moi. The truth is that the

commands from browser to browser used to differ for screen reader

users, thus resulting in having to learn new commands for each browser

you wished to use, but screenreaders have standardized a good bit over

the past few years, so that's no longer a consideration, in case

that's a fear of his.

 

Could you perhaps also please consider providing a link to the page

he's having trouble with, Curtis?

 

On 4/24/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

> Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?

>

 

 

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Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Edge is quite different from IE. You don’t have menus or menu bars like you do in browsers like IE and firefox.

 

 

 

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From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

‘ve never tried edge. I’d like to. Is it like IE?  I use IE and Chrome on this new win ten.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: April 24, 2019 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

Part of the problem is that Internet Explorer is essentially dead, &

Edge is still pretty iffy regarding accessibility.

 

Would your friend be willing to try Firefox or Chrome? I myself

personally like Firefox, but that's just moi. The truth is that the

commands from browser to browser used to differ for screen reader

users, thus resulting in having to learn new commands for each browser

you wished to use, but screenreaders have standardized a good bit over

the past few years, so that's no longer a consideration, in case

that's a fear of his.

 

Could you perhaps also please consider providing a link to the page

he's having trouble with, Curtis?

 

On 4/24/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

> Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?

>

 

 

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Arlene
 

Oh yeah? I’ll have to give it a try!

 

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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: April 25, 2019 3:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

Edge is quite different from IE. You don’t have menus or menu bars like you do in browsers like IE and firefox.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

‘ve never tried edge. I’d like to. Is it like IE?  I use IE and Chrome on this new win ten.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jackie
Sent: April 24, 2019 7:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] problem with NVDA screen reader

 

Part of the problem is that Internet Explorer is essentially dead, &

Edge is still pretty iffy regarding accessibility.

 

Would your friend be willing to try Firefox or Chrome? I myself

personally like Firefox, but that's just moi. The truth is that the

commands from browser to browser used to differ for screen reader

users, thus resulting in having to learn new commands for each browser

you wished to use, but screenreaders have standardized a good bit over

the past few years, so that's no longer a consideration, in case

that's a fear of his.

 

Could you perhaps also please consider providing a link to the page

he's having trouble with, Curtis?

 

On 4/24/19, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

> Coming in a little late on this one, but what synthesizer are you using?

>

 

 

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