mouse movement
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Richard Kuzma
There is an add in called golden cursor. You will need sighted assistance to place the mouse where you want to mark. Its been a while since I used it, so would have to review how it works. Also, I took a usb mouse and covered the mouse part on the bottom that tracks the pointer around and use it just for clicking on things, This makes it very easy to use and you don’t have to worry about moveing the pointer around when you don’t want it to move.
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Hello:
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Thanks for the information. What is the keystroke for the golden cursor. I'll very much like to try it out. Thanks.
On 11/20/16, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io <rmkuzma=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
There is an add in called golden cursor.
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Gene
I don't have your original message any longer but
here are my answers based on my recollection of the questions.
First, there is a Windows command to move to the
system tray. It is Windows key b. Insert b is an NVDA command that
reads the currently active Window.
But if you want to use something that is almost
identical to the JAWS system tray dialog, there is an NVDA add on you can get
that does this. The command to open the system tray dialog when you use
the add on is the same as in JAWS, insert f11. You can use either
insert. Once opened, select an item in the list and tab around the dialog
to see how things are organized and what short cut commands do what. For
example, you will hear that right click is alt r.
As far as mouse movement is concerned, you may want
to try using the golden cursor add on. I haven't done so and I would very
strongly urge you to learn NVDA screen review commands before deciding what you
want to do about the golden Cursor add on. When you know how to move
around using screen review commands, you can move the mouse to the current place
you are at when using screen review by issuing the command numpad insert numpad
slash. That is, hold the numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad
slash. It's the key to the right of the numpad. If you then want to
click the mouse, press numpad slash by itself.
I am giving desktop keyboard layout commands for
mouse commands. I don't use the laptop layout and I don't know those
commands.
I would suggest that you listen to at least part of
a good tutorial on NVdA, particularly topics dealing with screen review.
you may save yourself time, trouble, and frustration if you learn in an
organized manner.
I'll let other list members discuss
tutorials. Joseph Lee created a very good one. If no one else gives
the link, I'll look it up and give it. Other list members may discuss
other tutorials.
If you don't learn well with tutorials but you do
with material in the form of a manual, you may want to learn from the user
guide. But in my experience, most computer users much prefer tutorials so
that's what I'm discussing in this message.
Gene
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David Moore
Hi,
I love golden cursor and use it all of the time. You can press the arrow
keys to move the mouse in that direction. You don’t need sighted assistance to
mark places, because here is what you can do with the golden cursor. Press
windows+NVDA+P to get the pixel position of where the mouse pointer is at. The
default for most screens is 1,366 pixels across, and 768 pixels down. The left
is 0 and the top is 0. The X position is given and then the Y position. For
example, the start button is at the position: 24 748. In other words, the mouse
pointer is 24 pixels to the right of the left edge of the screen, and 748 pixels
down from the top. This is almost at the very bottom left corner of the screen.
You can get a very good picture of where things are on the screen by pressing
that command and finding out what pixel position things are on the screen. Now,
to save a pixel position, press CTRL+NVDA+L. type in the X and Y numbers without
a space, and then space and write what that position is, like start bottom, for
example. In other words, you would type: 24748 start button. Just press enter,
and you have saved that position on the screen just like a book marker. Now, to
open a list of positions you have saved, just press shift+NvDA+L and arrow to
the position and press enter. The mouse pointer will go right to that position.
You can access places in programs only by doing this mouse pointer movement and
clicking with the mouse. You can always read with the review cursor and use
object navigation as well to get to a certain place, and press numb pad
insert+numb pad slash to route the mouse pointer to the review cursor. The
laptop position is shift+NVDA+M to do the routing. I would like to ask right
here if any work is being done on Golden Cursor, because I think that is so
powerful, because you can find the position the pointer is on the screen and
save that position like a book mark. That is so powerful that it makes me jump
up and down. You can use your mouse or touch pad like a sighted person by using
the Golden Cursor. You can also go to ease of access center and set your
computer to move the mouse pointer with the mum lock turned on instead of off to
use NVDA commands.
David Moore
From: Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] mouse movement There is an add in called golden cursor. You will need sighted assistance to place the mouse where you want to mark. Its been a while since I used it, so would have to review how it works. Also, I took a usb mouse and covered the mouse part on the bottom that tracks the pointer around and use it just for clicking on things, This makes it very easy to use and you don’t have to worry about moveing the pointer around when you don’t want it to move.
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David Moore
Hi,
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The Golden Cursor is a NVDA add on that you can find on the add ons page. You just download it and press enter on it in your downloads folder and it installs to NvDA as an add on. To look and change your add ons, just press NVDA+N and go to the tools sub menu and press right arrow and go to manage add ons and press enter. You can arrow down through your add ons, and tab to get information on that addon. The key commands I gave for the Golden cursor are all there in the help section of the add on web page. You can find add ons in a number of places, but, you can go to this URL: www.addons.nvda-project.org Take care, David Moore
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From: Ibrahim Ajayi Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 9:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] mouse movement Hello: Thanks for the information. What is the keystroke for the golden cursor. I'll very much like to try it out. Thanks. On 11/20/16, Richard Kuzma via Groups.Io <rmkuzma=aol.com@groups.io> wrote: There is an add in called golden cursor.
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I will preface this with: I know nothing about the Golden Cursor add-on and what follows is not intended as any sort of comment about its utility. Don't forget that NVDA has what I think is a major improvement over other screen readers in its mouse tracking function. Once you develop some slight skill in using the mouse to "scan" the page, even without being able to see exactly where the mouse is, you can get a very good "quick and dirty" knowledge of what is actually on that page, particularly in regard to controls and general content. I have tried to teach my clients to not "be afraid of the mouse" when used for this purpose and to be willing to actually use it for left and right click (which is easy to do if you keep it in a caddy so it can't move across the surface on which it rests). I don't often "succeed" (for lack of a better term) as much with an actual mouse as I do with a mouse pad, because it's a simple matter to mask the mouse pad with a piece of heavy cardboard for when you don't want to be activating it accidentally while still having full and easy access to the actual left and right mouse buttons. I would imagine, based on the description of Golden Cursor, that there could be a powerful wedding between its ability to save a specific location for later "snapping to" and NVDA's mouse tracking to allow you to do a quick "fly over" of a page to find those locations you might want to use with Golden Cursor. If I'm wrong about this I'm sure someone will set me straight as to how, and I'm more than willing to hear that. This is conjecture based on very little knowledge of Golden Cursor. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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