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begin and end links with braille display
Josh Kennedy
Hi,
When I am reading websites in braille with my orbit reader20 and NVDA, and I encounter a link, NVDA puts lnk before the link, but there is nothing to indicate when, and where, the link has ended and normal text resumes. Furthermore, when the link ends, there is no space between words. I would like to see a choice of how links are displaysed in braille. Either begin and end web-links indicators, this includes visited and other types of links, or have a choice to underline the whole link using dots-7-and-8. But there should be an alternative for six-dot displays such as the braille me which cannot use dots 7 and 8 to underline links, so there should be a method to indicate where the link begins or starts at, and where it ends, and normal text continues.
Josh
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Luke Davis
How do other screen readers handle this?
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2019, Josh Kennedy wrote:
When I am reading websites in braille with my orbit reader20 and NVDA, and I encounter a link, NVDA puts lnk before the link, but there is nothing to
indicate when, and where, the link has ended and normal text resumes. Furthermore, when the link ends, there is no space between words. I would like to see
a choice of how links are displaysed in braille. Either begin and end web-links indicators, this includes visited and other types of links, or have a choice
to underline the whole link using dots-7-and-8. But there should be an alternative for six-dot displays such as the braille me which cannot use dots 7 and 8
to underline links, so there should be a method to indicate where the link begins or starts at, and where it ends, and normal text continues.
Gene
Using a Braille display, what does NVDA do when use
screen layout if supported is turned off? Do linkks all appear on their
own lines? I don't use a Braille display but your notation sounds
cluttered to me.
Gene
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From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] begin and end links with braille
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David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
I prefer the Jaws dots 7 and 8 approach though I can usually tell where a link is from context, but also NVDA has a lot of weird indicators in places it shouldn't especially when using UEB. I'm pretty sure that some of these are LinLouis bugs, though and so I'm not sure what NVDA can do about them. What I don't understand is why 3 screen readers display the same braille slightly differently in some instances, when everyone is supposedly using the same libraries and the same braille tables. I can't imagine only having a 6-dot display though, as one of the things I like is the computer braille code, if I want to look at code. Or if I want to see how something is spelled because a translation table looks weird. How does the Braille Me handle things like that? If you have routing buttons, you could just click the one next to the lnk and that should get you focused on the link. Of course that doesn't work for things like Orbit Reader that have no routing buttons. I don't mind the lnk myself, as I rarely need to know exactly what's linked text from beginning to end, but MAYBE THIS IS TROUBLING FOR WEB DEVELOPMENT AND TESTING POSSIBLY, BUT i AM NOT SURE WHAT'S A GOOD SOLUTION. I usually use NVDA, just because it seems to be fairly responsive and isn't massively bloated and does what I need to do, but we should catalogue things we like and dislike from other products, just so everyone has the customizations they need. I don't know how narrator indicates links, as I prefer to work without speech and so I don't like having to twiddle braille drivers on and off, as that's very inconvenient, but I could check it.