Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?


John Isige
 

Hi everybody. I need a new NAS. Anybody have recommendations? Somebody wants to sell me a Synology from 2013. I see it has accessibility, at least somewhat.


https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Accessibility/accessibility


I'm looking for recommendations because I'm currently using a Western Digital MyBook Live. I can access most of it, but the way you delete shares is to click on a graphical icon that doesn't show up, so I can't do that myself. So I'm hoping to find one that has accessible management software. It seems like Synology's might work, but if anybody's got actual experience with something, I'd surely appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!


Luke Davis
 

While I don't know anything about that particular gear--I have always built my own NASes using Linux--I will say that I would have misgivings about buying a piece of 2013 computing equipment of any kind.

If it is not still receiving security patches, I would definitely not buy it. See the conversations here recently about Windows XP. Embedded systems are often even worse than old operating systems, when it comes to security and patching security holes.

So if that thing has an ARM, Intel, or AMD processor (or one of several others), for example, and it hasn't received 2018 software updates, it's vulnerable to several processor level hacks that can allow someone to read anything in its memory. That aside, depending on what software it's running, it could even become part of a botnet, like most Windows XP systems are.

So be very careful with buying old equipment like this. If it's not still getting software updates, stay far away from it, or only use it in a situation where it never touches the internet.

Some links:

read the comment by archagon, and some others: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8128521

And perhaps: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1247263
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/9qzooz/hacked_2_factor_authentication_doesnt_prevent/

Luke


Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I have a Synology DS218J with 2 8TB disks in raid 1, means 8TB netto space and the interface is accessible for 97%.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Samstag, 27. Juli 2019 19:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

Hi everybody. I need a new NAS. Anybody have recommendations? Somebody wants to sell me a Synology from 2013. I see it has accessibility, at least somewhat.


https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Accessibility/accessibility


I'm looking for recommendations because I'm currently using a Western Digital MyBook Live. I can access most of it, but the way you delete shares is to click on a graphical icon that doesn't show up, so I can't do that myself. So I'm hoping to find one that has accessible management software. It seems like Synology's might work, but if anybody's got actual experience with something, I'd surely appreciate hearing about it. Thanks!


Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Mine is from Western digital. When I can afford it I plan on looking into the idea of a NAS docking station.

 

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From: John Isige
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

 

Hi everybody. I need a new NAS. Anybody have recommendations? Somebody

wants to sell me a Synology from 2013. I see it has accessibility, at

least somewhat.

 

 

https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/help/DSM/Accessibility/accessibility

 

 

I'm looking for recommendations because I'm currently using a Western

Digital MyBook Live. I can access most of it, but the way you delete

shares is to click on a graphical icon that doesn't show up, so I can't

do that myself. So I'm hoping to find one that has accessible management

software. It seems like Synology's might work, but if anybody's got

actual experience with something, I'd surely appreciate hearing about

it. Thanks!

 

 

 

 


John Isige
 

actually, you can apparently run their software for a long while even on
older stuff. This will run the latest, and there was a critical update
from this year. So yeah, it should run the latest and greatest. Also, I
won't be opening it up to the internet, which is what all of these
people seem to have done. Well OK, I guess I can't say I'll never do it,
but right now it's just gonna be a media server behind a router, totally
local stuff. Good advice though, thanks!

On 7/27/2019 22:33, Luke Davis wrote:
While I don't know anything about that particular gear--I have always
built my own NASes using Linux--I will say that I would have
misgivings about buying a piece of 2013 computing equipment of any kind.

If it is not still receiving security patches, I would definitely not
buy it. See the conversations here recently about Windows XP. Embedded
systems are often even worse than old operating systems, when it comes
to security and patching security holes.

So if that thing has an ARM, Intel, or AMD processor (or one of
several others), for example, and it hasn't received 2018 software
updates, it's vulnerable to several processor level hacks that can
allow someone to read anything in its memory. That aside, depending on
what software it's running, it could even become part of a botnet,
like most Windows XP systems are.

So be very careful with buying old equipment like this. If it's not
still getting software updates, stay far away from it, or only use it
in a situation where it never touches the internet.

Some links:

read the comment by archagon, and some others:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8128521

And perhaps: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1247263
https://www.reddit.com/r/synology/comments/9qzooz/hacked_2_factor_authentication_doesnt_prevent/


Luke


John Isige
 


Could you explain a bit about what 97% accessible means? Specifically, what things aren't accessible?


John Isige
 

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.


Tyler Wood
 

Hi,

I’ve heard good things about sonology.

The thing that’s turning me off any of these NAS devices is the fact that software can change at a moments notice with a firmware update, as happened with netgear, and said firmware downgrade may be impossible. I’d rather get a refurbished computer (after all, all these NAS’s are is a computer), get one of those mediasonic proraid drive enclosures and install one of the pre-existing NAS programs for either Windows or Linux – this way you’re in complete control of what you get and when you get it. Of course, it all depends on what you do, but initial setup for most things really doesn’t sound difficult.

 

Just my opinion, however. After I was unable to downgrade the firmware of a netgear NAS for a friend, that turned me off of them quite a lot. Of course your mileage may vary, and certain companies may be better than others.

 

Best of luck!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: July 28, 2019 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

 

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.


 

Well if you jack the processers in your nas to as high as they can fit and install the ram you need, you can probably ditch the os entirely and run your own linux distribution because a few audio geeks did it that way and bang you have not only a backup solution but a media server and other things as well but I have no idea how to do that.

These guys also have huge cloud backups of things.



On 29/07/2019 3:14 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

I’ve heard good things about sonology.

The thing that’s turning me off any of these NAS devices is the fact that software can change at a moments notice with a firmware update, as happened with netgear, and said firmware downgrade may be impossible. I’d rather get a refurbished computer (after all, all these NAS’s are is a computer), get one of those mediasonic proraid drive enclosures and install one of the pre-existing NAS programs for either Windows or Linux – this way you’re in complete control of what you get and when you get it. Of course, it all depends on what you do, but initial setup for most things really doesn’t sound difficult.

 

Just my opinion, however. After I was unable to downgrade the firmware of a netgear NAS for a friend, that turned me off of them quite a lot. Of course your mileage may vary, and certain companies may be better than others.

 

Best of luck!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: July 28, 2019 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

 

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.


Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

It is useable. You do have to work with it to figure it out. The biggest problem I have had has been with their tech support.

 

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From: John Isige
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2019 5:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anybody have accessible NAS recommendations?

 

I don't know that I'd go with WD again, but just in case, how accessible is it? I have a WD MyBook Live and it's mostly accessible. I can't delete shares I've made though and some of the other operations for manipulating them don't really work that reliably. So I'd like to make sure I can get something that's really accessible if I'm going to spend money to update.