NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube


Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable" button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad" button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!


molly the blind tech lover
 

hi 😊 in NVDA's document format settings you can set nvda to not announce clickable. but i am not sure how it will read the button..


On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, 1:52 AM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!





Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Dejan Ristic
 

Hi,


What I've faced so far?


If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.


Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Virus-free. www.avast.com


Quentin Christensen
 

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,


What I've faced so far?


If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.


Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


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Kerryn Gunness
 

i use NVDA with you tube and i normally get the skip add button by pressing b
but sometimes it does not have a skip add button

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:52 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube


Hi. Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button on youtube could be read by NVDA. Now however, the newer versions of NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable". It is rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable" button immediately above the slider to activate it. The "Skip ad" button is still recognized by JFW as usual. Perhaps I am missing something? Just letting the NVDA team know. Cheers!



Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,


What I've faced so far?


If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.


Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Virus-free. www.avast.com


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


Quentin Christensen
 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.



On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,


What I've faced so far?


If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.


Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Jaffar,

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.

For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!


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Arlene
 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 


David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
 

With Edge dev and chrome probably, (I don't use Chrome so don't know for sure) The skip ad button is usually a clickable button that is not labeled, but with Firefox, you can get to it easily. I abandoned Google Music when they switched it to youtube

 music and lowered the quality of the music files.


Gene
 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!




 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

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Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 


Arlene
 

Sometimes I do see skip add button.  It doesn’t matter what screen reader I use. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: August 2, 2019 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

 


Gene
 

There are ads that can be skipped and ads that can't.  You only see the button when you can skip the ad.  It isn't displayed otherwise. 
 
The person reporting the problem sees the button on ads that can be skipped but the text that says skip ads isn't read.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

Sometimes I do see skip add button.  It doesn’t matter what screen reader I use. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: August 2, 2019 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

 


molly the blind tech lover
 

I’ve seen a lot of adds lately that can’t be skipped.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

There are ads that can be skipped and ads that can't.  You only see the button when you can skip the ad.  It isn't displayed otherwise. 

 

The person reporting the problem sees the button on ads that can be skipped but the text that says skip ads isn't read.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 6:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Sometimes I do see skip add button.  It doesn’t matter what screen reader I use. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: August 2, 2019 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

 


Gene
 

I don't use Youtube that much but it seems as though Grammarlee, (spelling) is almost their only sponsor.  And those ads can't be skipped and it’s the same add for Grammarlee repeatedly.
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

I’ve seen a lot of adds lately that can’t be skipped.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

There are ads that can be skipped and ads that can't.  You only see the button when you can skip the ad.  It isn't displayed otherwise. 

 

The person reporting the problem sees the button on ads that can be skipped but the text that says skip ads isn't read.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 6:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Sometimes I do see skip add button.  It doesn’t matter what screen reader I use. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: August 2, 2019 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

Virus-free. www.avast.com


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.2 RC 1 now available!

 

 

 


 

I am unsure about a youtube search.

If its someone's channel you are going to.

usually once I put /videos or playlists at the end of the url I can find the stuff I want to play.

I use pontes media downloader from http://scripts.pontesgames.ro to convert all my videos to mp3 which are huge like game streams and even mp3 music and free to watch lists.

So I avoid adds that way.

The youtube interface has become a bit slow, crashy and troublesom.

As for the user saying that they seem to have only 1 sponsor I am not surprised.

Youtube has had recently had to pull back on their openness of their add system after someone hacked the add system and took control of it.

It wasn't to bad but the fact they were able to do it and potentially do bad things to people, including but not limited to put fake scarey videos up on youtube, then quietly kill themselves so they couldn't be traced is a thing to be feared.

Those people havn't got caught.

Its not that bad of an attack per say but google is one of those big companies and for them to get compromised even in that small way is quite bad reputation wize.

In the wake of this a lot of people pulled out of youtube adds.

Its good revenue for local content though.



On 3/08/2019 1:48 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't use Youtube that much but it seems as though Grammarlee, (spelling) is almost their only sponsor.  And those ads can't be skipped and it’s the same add for Grammarlee repeatedly.
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

I’ve seen a lot of adds lately that can’t be skipped.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

There are ads that can be skipped and ads that can't.  You only see the button when you can skip the ad.  It isn't displayed otherwise. 

 

The person reporting the problem sees the button on ads that can be skipped but the text that says skip ads isn't read.

 

Gene

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From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 6:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Sometimes I do see skip add button.  It doesn’t matter what screen reader I use. 

 

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From: Gene
Sent: August 2, 2019 4:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I don't think that is the reason for the problem.  the person said he/she, I don't remember who posed the problem, used to find the button.  I can find it but I'm using an old version of NVDA.  It seems to me that the question is how many other people no longer see the button announced as skip ads.  The problem may be on that specific machine or affect only a small number of users, but when someone says that they no longer see text displayed on a button and just hear clickable, that means that the person is still seeing the button and that if the screen-reader were reading text, it would be read. 

 

Gene

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From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 3:52 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

I believe they are putting rubbish on the screen.  I don’t go there often.  I go there for songs.

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: August 2, 2019 3:50 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and "Skip Ad" button on youtube

 

Maybe YouTube is putting more rubbish on the screen?  I'm not sure, as I say I have a subscription so don't usually get ads.  I could definitely find it when I logged out and played videos, although yes, you have to trudge past a few things to find it.  The best workaround I can suggest is a YouTube premium (or YouTube Music, or whatever they're calling it this week) subscription.

 

 

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 7:23 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  I am aware of all that, but the "skip ad" button has been relatively harder to detect lately, hence my post.

On 8/1/2019 6:30 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I just tried, and I can find the button, pretty much exactly the same ways as in Firefox.

 

Note that YouTube has a few different ways of showing ads.  The ones which have the "Skip ad" button, tend to be ones which play for five seconds or so first (with a count down timer where the Skip Ad button would be) before the Skip Ad button is shown.  If you are quick off the mark, and try to find the button before this point, you may not be able to.

 

The ads in this case are often a couple of minutes long.  YouTube sometimes shows other ads which are 30 seconds or so, and for some of these ads, it doesn't offer a facility to skip the ad, but rather shows a message saying that your video will play (or resume) after the ad.  In that case there is no Skip ad button either.

 

Are you sure the ads you are seeing do in fact have skip ad buttons?

 

I didn't try with NVDA 2019.1.1, but only NVDA 2019.2 rc1, I'm not sure if that makes a difference of the top of my head: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-2rc1-released/

 

I was using Chrome Version 75.0.3770.142 (Official Build) (64-bit) I noticed when I just checked that it decided there was an update, but I don't think this build was that old.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:31 PM Dejan Ristic <r.dejan83@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

What I've faced so far?

 

If I wish NVDA to recognize the skip ad button, I switch to the focus mode and tab and/or shift tab to find and activate the button, for there are cases when NVDA does not recognize the very button we're talking about when in the browse mode.

 

Dejan

On 01/08/2019 10:23, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

Hi Quentin.  I have been using Chrome for quite a while and so i can't tell you if Chrome is the culprit or not since  the button is still seen by  JFW.  For me at least, NVDA seems to no longer read the button correctly since the early 2019 version, so if it was a chrome or youtube update, won't JFW face the same issue then?  The "Clickable" word to me is not an issue for me right now as I depend upon it to tell me that I am on the "Skip ad" button.  Cheers.

On 8/1/2019 2:19 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jaffar,

 

Can you confirm whether the issue is with newer versions of NVDA, or recent updates to YouTube (or your browser)?

 

Looking at YouTube in FireFox 68.0.1 with NVDA 2019.2rc1, I can see a "Clickable skip ad" button when there is an ad showing.  You can either get to it with tab or b (or shift+tab or shift+b), or you can do an NVDA search for "skip" is usually enough to find it.


For the "clickable" part, if you don't want clickable announced, you can turn that off in NVDA's document settings (NVDA+control+d)

 

I must admit, I have a YouTube subscription so I haven't seen ads in awhile to know if that behaviour has changed lately.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:52 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi.  Not so long ago, with the previous versions, the "Skip ad" button
on youtube could be read by NVDA.  Now however, the newer versions of
NVDA seem to read that particular button just as "Clickable".  It is
rather unfortunate that one has to navigate to the slider which allows
us to skip a video back or forward, then arrow up to the "clickable"
button immediately above the slider to activate it.  The "Skip ad"
button is still recognized by JFW as usual.  Perhaps I am missing
something?  Just letting the NVDA team know.  Cheers!


 

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