password fields on web pages
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Don H
Looks like by default NVDA says star for every character typed into a password edit box. Is there a setting to have NVDA say the actual characters being entered rather than the star?
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Peter Beasley
No there isn't But that is the case with all screenreaders.
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From: Don H Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 1:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] password fields on web pages Looks like by default NVDA says star for every character typed into a password edit box. Is there a setting to have NVDA say the actual characters being entered rather than the star?
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Gene
I'm not sure that's true. I seem to recall
that JAWS may have such a setting. Or I may be wrong and it may be
Window-eyes or maybe both. When someone is alone, they might want to have
the actual characters echoed. Of course, the danger is that someone may
use this setting when they don't have privacy There is another danger as
well. Some malware turns on the computer's microphone, in the case of a
laptop and the malware could record and send the password announcement
somewhere. Malware can get the password in all sorts of ways, but I'm not
sure I would want a feature that provides another possible method.
Having said that, I don't have much in the way of
an opinion about whether a setting should be implemented, but I'm slightly
against it at this time. I would say that if it really matters, open
Notepad, type the password, then copy and paste it into the field on the web
page. But typing carefully directly in the field should cause such work
arounds to be unnecessary, I should think.
Gene
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From: Peter Beasley
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] password fields on web pages -----Original Message----- From: Don H Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 1:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] password fields on web pages Looks like by default NVDA says star for every character typed into a password edit box. Is there a setting to have NVDA say the actual characters being entered rather than the star?
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Chris Mullins
NVDA is just reading the security masking character in the password field as you type. If you're not confident enough in your typing when using a password field, you could always open a text document, type in the password so you can hear what you are typing, then use copy and paste to get the password into the masked web page field.
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Cheers Chris
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H Sent: 25 November 2016 13:40 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] password fields on web pages Looks like by default NVDA says star for every character typed into a password edit box. Is there a setting to have NVDA say the actual characters being entered rather than the star?
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Don H
Window Eyes has a setting to either have stars or characters typed.
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On 11/25/2016 8:03 AM, Peter Beasley wrote:
No there isn't But that is the case with all screenreaders.
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Don H
You have the option in Window Eyes to have characters being typed.
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On 11/25/2016 9:02 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
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One also has the option of using a password manager program such as Password Safe (which exists in PC, Android, Mac and iPhone versions - all of which use the same encrypted file type). Once you set up your entries for your various sites you can either double click on the entry to copy the password to the clipboard or use a button or menu to do it. It can also generate passwords for you that are very high-strength which is fine if you use the technique outlined above. I could never remember the passwords that it generates, but the password generation option is not a requirement. Given the nature of the interface, which is old Windows style, I would have to presume this program is accessible though I haven't tested that. Here is a test to find out whether your mission in life is complete. If you’re alive, it isn’t. ~ Lauren Bacall
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hi.
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i wished that nvda announce passwords completely rather than star. but for security, i used to this method. i write the passwords very slow to prevent mistake in my typing.
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Gene,
I personally wouldn't want my password announced as I was typing it. I have my passwords for different sites written down in braille so if I forget it, I can look it up.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 6:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] password fields on web pages
I'm not sure that's true. I seem to recall that JAWS may have such a setting. Or I may be wrong and it may be Window-eyes or maybe both. When someone is alone, they might want to have the actual characters echoed. Of course, the danger is that someone may use this setting when they don't have privacy There is another danger as well. Some malware turns on the computer's microphone, in the case of a laptop and the malware could record and send the password announcement somewhere. Malware can get the password in all sorts of ways, but I'm not sure I would want a feature that provides another possible method.
Having said that, I don't have much in the way of an opinion about whether a setting should be implemented, but I'm slightly against it at this time. I would say that if it really matters, open Notepad, type the password, then copy and paste it into the field on the web page. But typing carefully directly in the field should cause such work arounds to be unnecessary, I should think.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] password fields on web pages
No there isn't But that is the case with all screenreaders.
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Ejaz Shah
I use LastPass password manager and it's accessible with NVDA.
On 11/25/2016 8:29 PM, Brian Vogel
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Arlene
As do I. I write down all my passwords.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: November-25-16 8:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] password fields on web pages
Hi, Gene,
I personally wouldn't want my password announced as I was typing it. I have my passwords for different sites written down in braille so if I forget it, I can look it up.
Rosemarie
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
I'm not sure that's true. I seem to recall that JAWS may have such a setting. Or I may be wrong and it may be Window-eyes or maybe both. When someone is alone, they might want to have the actual characters echoed. Of course, the danger is that someone may use this setting when they don't have privacy There is another danger as well. Some malware turns on the computer's microphone, in the case of a laptop and the malware could record and send the password announcement somewhere. Malware can get the password in all sorts of ways, but I'm not sure I would want a feature that provides another possible method.
Having said that, I don't have much in the way of an opinion about whether a setting should be implemented, but I'm slightly against it at this time. I would say that if it really matters, open Notepad, type the password, then copy and paste it into the field on the web page. But typing carefully directly in the field should cause such work arounds to be unnecessary, I should think.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] password fields on web pages
No there isn't But that is the case with all screenreaders.
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