Nvda on Usb
Jarek.Krcmar
Hi all in this group,
I have created portable version on usb flashdisk. I would like to know, what is better: have the portable Nvda single on Usb, or I must create a folder for it. -- Jarek |
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mattias
i have a copy on a usb hard drive works fine
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On 2019-08-22 11:37, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
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It's been ages since I last played with this, but if memory serves once you've created the portable version of NVDA on a USB drive you are free to create a folder for it and move it there and/or create separate folders for other stuff on that drive.
We're not talking about a bootable drive, just a drive that has a portable edition of NVDA on it. In all other respects the drive is free game for storing things in other folders. I'm sure someone will correct me if my memory is not serving. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Gene
You can have it wherever you want, in a folder or
not, and copy or move it anywhere, to another drive, thumb, external hard drive,
etc.
But to keep files from being splattered on the
drive without a folder, I think its better to have the files in a folder.
If you don't, they will be on the root of the drive or thumb drive.
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We're not talking about a bootable drive, just a drive that has a portable edition of NVDA on it. In all other respects the drive is free game for storing things in other folders. I'm sure someone will correct me if my memory is not serving. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:17 AM, Gene wrote:
But to keep files from being splattered on the drive without a folder, I think its better to have the files in a folder. If you don't, they will be on the root of the drive or thumb drive.I agree. Some things that create portable copies also create a dedicated folder for same, others don't, and NVDA doesn't. If I intend to have a portable copy of NVDA on a drive where I want lots of other stuff, I do as you've said elsewhere, create an NVDA folder, and move everything there. But knowing how NVDA behaves when creating a portable copy, I don't ever create those on a drive where I already have lots of other data, as picking up all the pieces and sweeping them into a dedicated NVDA folder becomes much more difficult. Instead, I create that portable copy on a blank drive, create an NVDA folder on the drive where I actually want it, then copy over the content from the other drive with a simple "select all/CTRL+A" to get it all at once. This is a "live and learn" situation with each and every piece of portable software, depending on the behavior of what creates it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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I dedicate 1 drive for 1 piece of activity so for me nvda is in the / of the folder. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well. Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 22 Aug 2019, at 7:45, Brian Vogel wrote:
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I dedicate 1 drive for 1 piece of activity so for me nvda is in the / of the folder.Not an unreasonable practice, but I'd have way too many USB thumb drives were this to be my standard practice!! I try to keep my equipment clutter, including stuff like thumb drives, to the minimum possible. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Yeah I have my stuff labeled so for me it's no big really. I's not the standard but for me it's works, and for me that's what I'll stick to. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well. Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc. Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here On 22 Aug 2019, at 8:08, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Kevin Cussick
Hi, agreed. it is to bad that Nvda still splatters the files all over the drive it should create an Nvda folder just saying.
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On 22/08/2019 15:45, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:17 AM, Gene wrote: |
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Luke Davis
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:
But knowing howI don't understand. When creating a portable copy, the prompt says: To create a portable copy of NVDA, please select the path and other options. Portable directory: At that point, you can just enter f:\nvda (if your USB disk was on drive F:), or whatever, and NVDA would be installed to that folder. Why do you have to pick up any pieces, move them around, etc.? Luke On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, Brian Vogel wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 10:17 AM, Gene wrote: |
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 05:32 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
At that point, you can just enter f:\nvda (if your USB disk was on drive F:), or whatever, and NVDA would be installed to that folder.Yes, you could. You could also activate the browse button and navigate to a chosen folder. But it's blank by default, and a great many people browse to the drive they want to use, and that's it. There are lots of "browse" options in cases like this that would automatically post-pend the NVDA part, which a user would need to remove if they didn't want that folder. People (and I include myself) are lazy and will most often take what the software does after a minimum of picking. There are other factors involved, too. Were the NVDA "create portable" always to create a dedicated NVDA folder on the destination device (even if that device were an existing folder) this would be a moot point. I know what I observe happening "in the wild" and I know it won't likely change. In this case a simple programming change could alleviate the issue. It's all a matter of what one wants, and at least mentioning it. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Kevin Cussick
well yes, quite. this is what I do but I think Brian was maybe saying that nvda should buy default make a folder where ever you extract and buy default call it nvda.
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On 22/08/2019 22:32, Luke Davis wrote:
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:But knowing howI don't understand. When creating a portable copy, the prompt says: |
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Jarek.Krcmar
Hi Gene and all, I have created folder called Nvda and Then I moved all files of Nvda to it. Thank you very much.
Jarek Dne 22.08.2019 v 16:17 Gene napsal(a):
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:13 PM, Kevin Cussick wrote:
but I think Brian was maybe saying that nvda should buy default make a folder where ever you extract and buy default call it nvda.And it wasn't just me that has said this. "Portable copy makers" (I won't call them installers, because they are NOT installing anything) had ought to, as a matter of practice, create a dedicated folder, with a name that the end user would clearly recognize as being "the home of the thing I just created a portable copy of," in the location it's been told to place the portable copy. Expecting end users to do this housekeeping in this day and age just isn't gonna happen (and, in reality and as these two topics have shown, doesn't happen and hasn't happened in my observation in a very, very long time). It's just so much cleaner and less confusing for the end user. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Gene
And those without experience in placing a portable
program on the hard drive, would quite possibly expect this to be done because
their experience using zip or other extraction programs is as you
describe. If you extract an archive, a folder is created to contain the
extracted files.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
but I think Brian was maybe saying that nvda should buy default make a folder where ever you extract and buy default call it nvda.And it wasn't just me that has said this. "Portable copy makers" (I won't call them installers, because they are NOT installing anything) had ought to, as a matter of practice, create a dedicated folder, with a name that the end user would clearly recognize as being "the home of the thing I just created a portable copy of," in the location it's been told to place the portable copy. Expecting end users to do this housekeeping in this day and age just isn't gonna happen (and, in reality and as these two topics have shown, doesn't happen and hasn't happened in my observation in a very, very long time). It's just so much cleaner and less confusing for the end user. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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molly the blind tech lover
Hi. When I created a portable copy of NVDA I created a folder which I first placed on my flash drive. It helps to give the folder a specific name that you will remember. After the portable copy was placed in to the folder I then renamed the screen reader file so I could easily find it.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 10:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda on Usb
And those without experience in placing a portable program on the hard drive, would quite possibly expect this to be done because their experience using zip or other extraction programs is as you describe. If you extract an archive, a folder is created to contain the extracted files.
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On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:13 PM, Kevin Cussick wrote:
And it wasn't just me that has said this. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Molly,
Think about your own user name, your description of what you did (which is perfect, by the way) then think about what Gene wrote: "And those without experience in placing a portable program . . ." You are not a member of that demographic. Nor am I or Gene. Context matters. Describing what a skilled person does, while interesting, is not really germane to the broader point that both Gene and I (and at least one or two others) have been trying to make. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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Kevin Cussick
Yes agreed, and I just can't understand why the Nvda devs don't just fix this.
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On 23/08/2019 15:04, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Quentin Christensen
There is an open issue on our tracker for this.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3113 The current proposal there is to alert the user if the folder they have selected is not empty, which I think is a reasonable compromise. Feel free to comment on that issue if you have any new points to add there though. On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 6:43 AM Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote: Yes agreed, and I just can't understand why the Nvda devs don't just --
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Kevin Cussick
thanks, have seen it I still think it should put a folder called Nvda and just don't know why the devs are so against this.
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On 26/08/2019 02:53, Quentin Christensen wrote:
There is an open issue on our tracker for this. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3113 |
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