Please help (Excel with NVDA)
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What should I do with the following situation? (Excel 2013 with NVDA)
- It is an attendance record created with Excell.
- Group 1 is from A1-A12, and Group 2 is from A13-A20. There is a function (name, ID, Department, date (1-31 with P stands for Present), and total sum at the end of each roll).
- Then there is a new member joined group 1.
- The question is:
How to add a new member to Group 1 that will be A13 and use the same function as the previous roll with belong to the group and move Group2 to start from the next roll instead?
Please help me, I'm really new to excel.
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Luke Davis
There are two methods I can think of:
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First, according to this website [1], while I have not tried it, Excel knows that there are consecutive formulas in your sheet. So, if you insert new rows (the word is rows, not rolls) in a range with formulae, for example by inserting new rows between A11 and A12, Excel should replicate the formula for you. Assuming that doesn't work for you, there is another way you can try: copying and updating. 1. Move to A12. 2. Press shift+right arrow, then shift+end, to select the row. 3. Press control+c to copy it. 4. Press home to get back to A12 and cancel the selection. 5. Press control+shift+= (or use the context menu to go to "insert copy"). That will bring up a dialog box. 6. Use the down arrow to go to "move cells down", then press enter. If you want more than one new row, repeat steps five and six as many times as you need new rows. Then, moving down from A12 to A13, you should find copy(ies) of A12. Edit it(them) as you see fit. There may be formulas that do not like this style of copying, it really depends on your sheet, and what options you have selected. The website mentions that, too. [1]: https://bettersolutions.com/excel/formulas/automatic-expansion.htm Luke On Wed, 28 Aug 2019, prem.translator@... wrote:
What should I do with the following situation? (Excel 2013 with NVDA) |
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prem.translator@...
Thank you for your reply,
However, let me clarify my situation.
- group 1 is A4-A12 (the header name of multiple rows, and B4-B12 will be the column to insert ID of participants.
- I'd like to add one more participant to the group1, which will be at B13, which is now the first column of Group2.
- I'd like NVDA to say "group 1 A4 through A13" instead of "A4 through A12".
Thank you.
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Luke Davis
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019, prem.translator@... wrote:
- group 1 is A4-A12 (the header name of multiple rows, and B4-B12 will be the column to insert ID of participants.In your original message, you said: There is a function (name, ID, Department, date (1-31 with P stands for Present), and total sum at the end of each roll).So as I understand it, here is an example set of rows, with column IDs above them: A, B, C, D, E 4: Bob Smith, 72, Science, P, some_kind_of_sum_formula 5: Alice Smith, 84, Science, P, some_kind_of_sum_formula (I'm not trying to format that tabularly as it won't survive transmission: count the commas if you want it to line up. Also, the 4: and 5: are row numbers.) In that, "Bob Smith" is in A4, and "some_kind_of_sum_formula" is in E4. If I understand that correctly, than the methods I gave you should work. And, since if you mess up all you have to do is exit without saving, or use control+z to un do, you have nothing to lose by trying one of them. (Note: I understand that the 1-31 date is probably a range of 31 columns with a P in them or not (I.E. it's probably D through AH). I have shortened that to just column D for purposes of this email.) - I'd like to add one more participant to the group1, which will be at B13, which is now the first column of Group2.That contradicts your statement in the earlier email, in which you said that Group 2 started at A13. Now you say it starts at B13, which means it's offset to the right by one column, which seems strange. So the names in Group 2, are in the same column with the IDs in Group 1, as i understand your layout after this email. Regardless of that oddity, the methods I suggested should still work. - I'd like NVDA to say "group 1 A4 through A13" instead of "A4 through A12".You can mark the heading for the Group 1 column as a column heading. However you can not have two column headings in the same column, so you will not be able to get it to say "Group 2" when you move to A13 from A12 (Group 1). You can get it to say "Group 2" in column B, but since the IDs for Group 1 are in column B, while the names for Group 2 are in column B according to the above, the IDs for Group 1 will be spoken under the heading of "Group 2" in that case. This is kind of bad sheet design. The groups should have been done in separate worksheets in the same workbook, or possibly in two separate table objects, although I'm not skilled with that method. There may be other solutions, but somebody else will have to point them out. Luke |
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Chris Mullins
Hi Have you merged the cells a1-a12 and a13-a20? If so, de-merge them, put the cursor in a13 and press the applications key, arrow down the displayed context menu to “Insert and press enter. Arrow to “Entire row and press enter. This will put a blank 13th row and group 2 will start at row 14. Select cells a14-A21 and merge them to form the Group 2 roll heading. Go to row 13 and type in ID, name etc for the new member and in columns where there is a formula, copy it from the equivalent cell in the row above and paste it into row 13. Provided the formulas have relative references, Excel will automatically change them. If you have any absolute references, copy the formula anyway then manually edit to change them if necessary. Finally re-merge a1-A13 to form the Group 1 roll.
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What should I do with the following situation? (Excel 2013 with NVDA) - It is an attendance record created with Excell. - Group 1 is from A1-A12, and Group 2 is from A13-A20. There is a function (name, ID, Department, date (1-31 with P stands for Present), and total sum at the end of each roll). - Then there is a new member joined group 1. - The question is: How to add a new member to Group 1 that will be A13 and use the same function as the previous roll with belong to the group and move Group2 to start from the next roll instead?
Please help me, I'm really new to excel.
Thank you. |
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