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Formatting on a Braille Display
Is there a way for NVDA to display formatting in a document such as italic and bold on a connected ,R; Display?
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kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
Sorry for the terrible errors; braille input on my phone was not
working correctly. On 10/3/19, kelby carlson via Groups.Io <kelbycarlson@...> wrote: Is there a way for NVDA to dispbbay formatting in a document such as italic -- Kelby Carlson |
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David Csercsics <bleeblat@...>
I don't think so. I've never seen any useful formatting indicators in braille with NVDA, but you could play with the document formatting options. I haven't done that. But in PDF's and other places where I know that there should be formatting changes, all NVDA displays is some weird symbols which are transcriber-assigned indicators according to UEB. So I think this might be LibLouis bugs I'm not sure.
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Cordelia Scharpf
Hello,
You are raising a very important question. I would greatly welcome seeing such characteristics displayed in Braille, which are commonly used in scientific writings for, e.g., book titles that get italicized. The screen readers I have been using to this day use dots 7, 8, or 7+8 or can be made to "blink". I realize that NVDA's original purpose was to make text audible; yet it would be a plus to have such elements also available as a second option--especially for those of us who primarily depend on a Braille display. Best wishes, Cordelia |
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Devin Prater
I’d much rather have the actual braille symbols for italics, bold, and such used, instead of a generic highlighting effect. After all, formatting logic is in a braille code for a reason, and I would hope that screen readers would take advantage of Liblouis’ ability to show such formatting.
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On Oct 3, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote: |
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Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
Major +318 for what you've just said. I would welcome Braille accessibility to get more priority in NVDA in general, grateful for what I have, but speech just gets the best of things, first and often solely. And some of us (I for one) don't use anything but Braille (not a matter of choice). To answer the specific question, if configured well, the BrailleExtender addon can display dot-78 on bold or italic or even spelling errors (something I particularly appreciate), but it can't blink. So I usually set it to represent only one format, multiple formats would be confusing, though I suggested blinking (and different blinking speeds to indicate different formats, as some have provided). I agree that, in the end, using the "official Braille representation" for bold, italic and so on is interesting. Trouble is: it's Braille table dependent and not always accurate. sNot all Braille table offer such a syntax. As far as I know, NVDA is still not able to send formatting info to Liblouis for them to be displayed in whatever braille table is being used. Perhaps, one day, hopefully!
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Cheers, Vincent On 10/4/2019 2:02 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
I’d much rather have the actual braille symbols for italics, bold, and such used, instead of a generic highlighting effect. After all, formatting logic is in a braille code for a reason, and I would hope that screen readers would take advantage of Liblouis’ ability to show such formatting.On Oct 3, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote: |
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kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
It's my understanding that JAWS has no problems doing this; I may have to switch back to it at work.
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On Oct 4, 2019, at 3:32 AM, Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...> wrote: |
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Devin Prater
It does not. It can show the generic dots 7 and 8, but not true formatting symbols. If I am wrong, I’d love to be shown otherwise.
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Hey Folks,
I've corrected the spelling in the topic title to make it easier for future searchers of the archive. I would appreciate it if any follow-ups be done using this message, or another with the title "Formatting on a Braille Display" so that the new title stays as the only one. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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