Using FileZilla for FTP
Rich DeSteno
I have attempted to use FileZilla with NVDA to do some FTP file transfers, but I have been unable to do so successfully. Is FileZilla accessible with NVDA and if so, are there any tutorials or help files available. Is there better program to use for FTP transfers?
-- Rich De Steno
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In my experience, it is perfectly accessible. What is your issue? What version of Filezilla are you using?
On 10/5/2019 12:06 AM, Rich DeSteno
wrote:
I have attempted to use FileZilla with NVDA to do some FTP file transfers, but I have been unable to do so successfully. Is FileZilla accessible with NVDA and if so, are there any tutorials or help files available. Is there better program to use for FTP transfers?
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Brian Tew
I just use cmd prompt and sftp. Works perfectly for me.
windows key, t`ype cmd, hit enter. they type sftp user@hostname
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Gene
I don't use the current version, mine is rather
old. My understanding is, however, that the current version is accessible,
though perhaps not quite as accessible as some older versions. I use my
version with NVDA.
You don't say what you are doing, uploading
something, downloading something, nor whether you can successfully log into the
server. And we don't know the procedure you are following for uploading or
downloading.
There are other FTP clients blind people use but I
haven't used any.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rich DeSteno
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 11:06 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP transfers, but I have been unable to do so successfully. Is FileZilla accessible with NVDA and if so, are there any tutorials or help files available. Is there better program to use for FTP transfers? -- Rich De Steno
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Dan Kerstetter
Rich,
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You might want to give WinScp a look. I haven't used it extensively, but I remember I like it better than filezilla.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rich DeSteno Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 12:07 AM To: nvda@groups.io Subject: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP I have attempted to use FileZilla with NVDA to do some FTP file transfers, but I have been unable to do so successfully. Is FileZilla accessible with NVDA and if so, are there any tutorials or help files available. Is there better program to use for FTP transfers? -- Rich De Steno
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Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
Yeah, the last time I use FileZilla, I was unsuccessful. I couldn't bring files from the local system over to the server by copy and paste for some reason.
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It is a menu driven program. Not sure why cut and paste doesn't work.
On 10/5/2019 1:20 PM, Hope Williamson
wrote:
Yeah, the last time I use FileZilla, I was unsuccessful. I couldn't bring files from the local system over to the server by copy and paste for some reason.
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Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
I'm not sure either, but when I used it this last time, I couldn't get it to work for the life of me.
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As an aside, and I do not know whether it applies here, don't forget that a very great many ISPs have completely deprecated straight FTP (which does not mask passwords and has been recognized as a security threat for some time) and a number will not support SFTP (Secure File Transfer Protocol) either.
I stopped using FTP, for the most part, very long ago because it's becoming an anachronism that is losing active support. FileZilla is definitely still being actively supported, as I just looked at the FileZilla Home Page and the last update to Version 3.45.1 occurred on September 25, 2019. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362 The color of truth is grey. ~ André Gide
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valiant8086
Hi there.
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File Zilla is mostly accessible, but another option that might do for you is Win SCP. I just use the portable one and like it quite a lot. The transfer queue is a more traditional list view, and is easier to navigate and understand than the File Zilla one. Older versions of Win SCP however are very sluggish, the newest one I have here is not, so try and ensure you're trying out the latest one when you give it a go.
On 10/5/2019 12:06 AM, Rich DeSteno wrote:
I have attempted to use FileZilla with NVDA to do some FTP file transfers, but I have been unable to do so successfully. Is FileZilla accessible with NVDA and if so, are there any tutorials or help files available. Is there better program to use for FTP transfers?
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Jackie
Hey Rich, perhaps the below tutorial will help:
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https://www.brighter-vision.com/using-filezilla-to-back-up-your-site/ If you're still having trouble, remember that you're considered a client because I'm helping w/your organization's website, so contact me privately, & we'll go over this together. My throat isn't working so well right now, but, either way, we'll get this done.
On 10/5/19, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi there. --
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George Kerscher
Try using the context menu to upload and download files.
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Best George
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 11:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP Yeah, the last time I use FileZilla, I was unsuccessful. I couldn't bring files from the local system over to the server by copy and paste for some reason.
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Gene
You don't use copy and paste. Whenever you
work with a program and want to do something like this, check the context
menu. Select the files you want to upload by moving to one or more
filenames and use the standard ways of selecting multiple files such as control
space, then open the context menu. You should find the relevant
command. In my old version, one command is upload. Always check to
see if there is a context menu and what is in it when performing such operations
if you don't see or can't use the way you expect..
For downloading, to download multiple files, or
just one, select it or them, and press enter. If you open the context
menu, you will see the relevant command but just pressing enter executes the
download or transfer command, or whatever the command is called.
I don't know if the new versions do this, but in my
version after I start a download, if I tab once, press home, then down arrow, I
am on a line with download information that can be read with read current
line. Unless things have changed regarding accessibility, once you know
how to use it, FileZilla is an excellent program.
I'd have to look for it, but I did a tutorial years
ago on its use. It may need to be updated because it addresses problems
that no longer exist and I didn't know one or two ways of doing things more
efficiently at the time. But it will give you a good idea of how to use
the program in terms of organization and should facilitate exploration and
experimentation.
I'll send the tutorial in a different message but I
suspect that any time now, the discussion will be closed here. I won't
discuss the program further here. If I don't send the tutorial here, it
will be because the topic is closed and it will be sent to the chat group.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Williamson
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP bring files from the local system over to the server by copy and paste for some reason.
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Sam Bushman
You can also use the view menu – uncheck several of the display sections such as toolbars directories etc. This makes it much easier to work with in filezilla with speech.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 8:24 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP
You don't use copy and paste. Whenever you work with a program and want to do something like this, check the context menu. Select the files you want to upload by moving to one or more filenames and use the standard ways of selecting multiple files such as control space, then open the context menu. You should find the relevant command. In my old version, one command is upload. Always check to see if there is a context menu and what is in it when performing such operations if you don't see or can't use the way you expect..
For downloading, to download multiple files, or just one, select it or them, and press enter. If you open the context menu, you will see the relevant command but just pressing enter executes the download or transfer command, or whatever the command is called.
I don't know if the new versions do this, but in my version after I start a download, if I tab once, press home, then down arrow, I am on a line with download information that can be read with read current line. Unless things have changed regarding accessibility, once you know how to use it, FileZilla is an excellent program.
I'd have to look for it, but I did a tutorial years ago on its use. It may need to be updated because it addresses problems that no longer exist and I didn't know one or two ways of doing things more efficiently at the time. But it will give you a good idea of how to use the program in terms of organization and should facilitate exploration and experimentation.
I'll send the tutorial in a different message but I suspect that any time now, the discussion will be closed here. I won't discuss the program further here. If I don't send the tutorial here, it will be because the topic is closed and it will be sent to the chat group.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Hope Williamson Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP
Yeah, the last time I use FileZilla, I was unsuccessful. I couldn't
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Gene
Here is the tutorial. It was written in 2013
so it may not all still apply. Also, I gave an easier way to find download
and, I believe, upload information in a previous message in the thread. I
didn't know it then.
But this message should give you a reasonable idea
of how to use the program.
I won't discuss the program further on the
list. Those with questions may get help in the chat group or on a list
like Blindtech or Techtalk, or whatever general discussion group you
choose.
Gene
Below is an introduction to fileZilla I compiled awhile
ago. The material is compiled from messages I wrote answering questions on
its use so the material is not organized in the way it would be if I had written
material in a unified manner.
Message 1.
Regarding installing the program,
it's a standard installation. There is no reason to change any default settings, as I recall. Once installed and running, open the menus and in
the file menu, open the site manager. Tab to the new site button and activate it with the space bar. There will be various fields where you can enter the appropriate information. The first field is for the name of the site. this is what you want to call it. For example, you might want to call it books. Type what you want Then tab around the dialog, entering information where appropriate. Note the radio buttons in one of the fields regarding how you will login. The default is anonymous. You need to select normal or account to be able to enter information in fields such as user. If you don't, these fields are read only. use the save and exit button to save the site and close the dialog. Now, open site manager again, down arrow in the tree view to the name you gave the site. Tab to the connect button and press the space bar. You will be connected after a pause. In future, if you used this site last, just open fileZilla and use the quick connect command, control r to reconnect to the site. It will reconnect and go to the last folder you were in. Once you are connected, you will get to where you want to be much more quickly if you shift tab through the fields in the main program window. If you have problems understanding what you see as you move, let us know. If you are familiar with list views and tree views, you probably won't have much problem understanding the structure. To begin downloading a file, just
find it and press enter. If you are going to download multiple files, the manager of the FTP server may not want you to do multiple downloads at once. You can select lots of files to download or an entire folder but you may want or need to check to see if multiple connections are allowed. If they are, you can download more than one file simultaneously. If they aren't, you will be using one connection and you will be downloading one file at a time, one after the other if you have selected more than one file or an entire folder. the default setting in fileZilla is to use multiple connections. To change this,you need to open the menus, find the cue menu, then find, in that menu an item that says use multiple connections and press enter to uncheck that option. You need to do this every time you open the program and want to download multiple files. You select multiple files as you do in any list. You can permanently change this setting so you don't have to repeatedly change it by working with the settings available from an item in the edit menu. there is an item in the edit menu called settings you can open, then you will find all sorts of settings you can change. To see the progress of a download, route the virtual
mouse, the
Window-eyes mouse pointer or whatever your screen-reader uses, to the window. Start at the bottom and move up. You will see a line with information about the remaining time, download speed, etc. Gene
Message 2.
You get messages such as command and response because they
are appearing
as they are executed in the fileZilla window. You shouldn't be hearing them spoken unless you have the screen echo set to all. You can look at these messages with your screen-reader's simulated mouse to see what is going on if there is any problem. to use Filezilla easily, shift tab, after waiting about twenty seconds from the time you activate the quick connect button. You will see an item you can ignore. You will then be in a list view of what is on the FtP server. Treat this as you would any list of files and folders. Find the item you want and press enter to start the
download. You can select multiple files as you can in any standard
list. If you want to download a folder and keep its name and structure,
don't open the folder. Stop on it's name, open the context menu, find
download and press enter. The folder will be downloaded.
To control where the download is placed, before starting the download, shift tab until you get to the list of files and folders on your computer. It will be two or three times, depending on how you have the program configured. Treat this list as you would any list. Find the folder you want the file to be sent to, press enter to open the folder, then tab back to the file you want to download and press enter. The download will begin. Experiment. Look through menus. Tab around the main program window. See how things are set up. If you have more problems, let the list know. Here is more information about determining the status of a
download.
Message 3.
Whichever screen-reader you are using, you route the
cursor that simulates the mouse to the FileZilla window. Then move to the
bottom of the window and start moving up line by line. You will see a line
showing the percent of the download completed and other information such as the
current speed of the download. If a download is not in progress, you won't
see this line of information. If it is, you always will. You can see
a number of messages about what has happened if you look around the
screen. If you start at the top, after moving down a few lines, you will
see a number of messages, each on a separate line. The messages proceed
with the oldest at the top. If there is an error or a problem when you are
downloading, if you don't see the line I've described with the information such
as the speed of the download, looking at these messages may tell you what the
problem is.
To upload, tab or shift tab to the list that displays
files and folders on your computer. Again, work with this list as you
would if you were in My Computer. find the file or folder you want to
upload. Then open the context menu. You are probably on an item that
says upload. Check with read current line. If you aren't, down arrow
through the menu until you find it and press enter. The upload will begin.
End of tutorial ----- Original Message -----
From: Gene via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP You don't use copy and paste. Whenever you
work with a program and want to do something like this, check the context
menu. Select the files you want to upload by moving to one or more
filenames and use the standard ways of selecting multiple files such as control
space, then open the context menu. You should find the relevant
command. In my old version, one command is upload. Always check to
see if there is a context menu and what is in it when performing such operations
if you don't see or can't use the way you expect..
For downloading, to download multiple files, or
just one, select it or them, and press enter. If you open the context
menu, you will see the relevant command but just pressing enter executes the
download or transfer command, or whatever the command is called.
I don't know if the new versions do this, but in my
version after I start a download, if I tab once, press home, then down arrow, I
am on a line with download information that can be read with read current
line. Unless things have changed regarding accessibility, once you know
how to use it, FileZilla is an excellent program.
I'd have to look for it, but I did a tutorial years
ago on its use. It may need to be updated because it addresses problems
that no longer exist and I didn't know one or two ways of doing things more
efficiently at the time. But it will give you a good idea of how to use
the program in terms of organization and should facilitate exploration and
experimentation.
I'll send the tutorial in a different message but I
suspect that any time now, the discussion will be closed here. I won't
discuss the program further here. If I don't send the tutorial here, it
will be because the topic is closed and it will be sent to the chat group.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Williamson
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using FileZilla for FTP bring files from the local system over to the server by copy and paste for some reason.
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Hello, I do use Filezilla. It's pretty accessible in my opinion. I am able to manage my website using it.
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