NVDA and MalWare Bytes


Don H
 

I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with NVDA?
Thanks


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this. After that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you need the paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or producing a log its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password tools, which I then had to reinstall. It also put an auto start in which I removed since it was becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the same kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with NVDA?
Thanks


David <trailerdavid@...>
 

Used Spybot, and Malwarebytes, late as this very week. Both I ran with
NVDA. Though they have certain things that could have been more simple
in accessing, I had no trouble in running both pieces of software.
Running NVDA 2016-3.


Comes to installing the software. The issue you mention, has a very easy
fix. Use Ninite. Go to

ninite.com

check the boxes for the software you want to include in your package,
and press the button at the end of the page, which says "Download
Installer".


Run this installer, whenever you want to install, or update, your
software. It will do all the necessary button clicking, unchecking all
the checkboxes for trashware, answering all the questions and so forth.
All you do, is to run the .exe file of the installer, and lean back and
enjoy a cup of hot chocolate, whilst the Ninite will do absolutely
amazingly easy a job. It does work with NVDA, and you can follow each
software as it is being installed or updated. When the installer is
done, you might need to restart your system, and you will be up running.
Go ahead, use your software as outlined by the developer.


You are looking for an accessible way to install your software, with no
hazzle and pains? Ninite is your way to beat the bush. Have used their
services for a handful years, and only can tell you what I and many
other users have found.


You've never checked them out? OK, fine. Now you are made aware of their
offer.


David

On 12/10/2016 12:11 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to
continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this.
After that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you
need the paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or
producing a log its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password
tools, which I then had to reinstall. It also put an auto start in
which I removed since it was becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the
same kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks





.


Ryan Mann <rmann0581@...>
 

If you get the Ninite installer for Malware Bytes it is straight forward. With that being said, It found Malware on a computer that I scanned and I had to get a sighted person to select and quarantine the Malware.


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On Dec 10, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this. After that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you need the paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or producing a log its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password tools, which I then had to reinstall. It also put an auto start in which I removed since it was becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the same kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with NVDA?
Thanks



Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi okay I have used Ninite before.
But now hear is how I think you make an installer for the programs you want to install.
And have the installer around for when and if you may need it again.
First you go to Ghent ninite web site.
Then you go threw the list of programs and check the boxes of the ones you want and then tab to the box that says get installer or whatever that says.
Then you save that file not open it and then save it in A place where you know where it is.
So when you need to run it at a later time.
You just go and locate that file and then you just then run that installer.
Now that is how I think that works.
So if you have this installer made and A newer version of A program comes out that you have in your installer.
How does it then give you the newer version and not the version you have in your made installer?
So please correct me on any of this if I am wrong.


--
Casey


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Unfortunately just tried the very latest Superantispywre, which a few months ago was fine, but now seems totally unfine, ie I cannot read any of its screens or buttons.
Why can't they leave their interfaces alone or at least test them with a screenreader?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Mann" <rmann0581@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


If you get the Ninite installer for Malware Bytes it is straight forward. With that being said, It found Malware on a computer that I scanned and I had to get a sighted person to select and quarantine the Malware.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this. After that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you need the paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or producing a log its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password tools, which I then had to reinstall. It also put an auto start in which I removed since it was becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the same kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with NVDA?
Thanks



Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hi Brian,
using latest SuperAntiSpyware and NVDA 2016.4 RC1. I can handle the
SuperAntiSpyware without any problems. It behaves like the years before.
When I start it up from the systray to perform a scan I can't tab to any
button, but that was always the case for me. I left-click once in the Window
once and then it can be handled by NVDA using tab and so on.

Regards,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Samstag, 10. Dezember 2016 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes

Unfortunately just tried the very latest Superantispywre, which a few months
ago was fine, but now seems totally unfine, ie I cannot read any of its
screens or buttons.
Why can't they leave their interfaces alone or at least test them with a
screenreader?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Mann" <rmann0581@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


If you get the Ninite installer for Malware Bytes it is straight forward.
With that being said, It found Malware on a computer that I scanned and I
had to get a sighted person to select and quarantine the Malware.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to
continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this. After
that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you need the
paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or producing a log
its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password tools, which I then had
to reinstall. It also put an auto start in which I removed since it was
becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the same
kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks



David <trailerdavid@...>
 

Casey, and the rest.

You are generally correct in all your steps.


As to your concluding question, how does the installer work when new
updates to your software come out, let me try give you an easy-to-follow
answer.


Whenever you run the downloaded installer file, it will do two things.
First it will check all the software that you have put into it, and see
if they are currently installed on your computer. Next, it will check
what version is installed on your system, and which version is the
latest available on Ninite's servers. All the version numbers of your
software installed locally, can be retrieved pretty simple, by any
software developer. This is the same info any software manufacturer will
be using, to determine if your system needs an update. Even it is
provided for your Microsoft installations.


When the installer from Ninite has determined which software either
needs an update, or a brand new installation, it will start to perform
its real activity. It will smoothly skip all software that is current
and up-to-date. It will download, and automatically install any software
or corresponding updates, that are not currently present on your computer.


Through all its activity, if you press the button on the installer
screen, that says "Show Details", you will be able to scroll the list of
software being checked. You will be presented the status of the
software. It is simple as tabbing and arrowing on the dialog screen, and
fully doable with NVDA.


I hope this served to clear up your question, Casey. My personal guess
is, that it does not even send any version number to the servers, simply
just collect them from your system, store them locally, get the latest
numbers from the server, and compare the two sets - all locally on your
computer.


David

On 12/10/2016 2:59 PM, Casey wrote:
Hi okay I have used Ninite before.
But now hear is how I think you make an installer for the programs you
want to install.
And have the installer around for when and if you may need it again.
First you go to Ghent ninite web site.
Then you go threw the list of programs and check the boxes of the ones
you want and then tab to the box that says get installer or whatever
that says.
Then you save that file not open it and then save it in A place where
you know where it is.
So when you need to run it at a later time.
You just go and locate that file and then you just then run that
installer.
Now that is how I think that works.
So if you have this installer made and A newer version of A program
comes out that you have in your installer.
How does it then give you the newer version and not the version you
have in your made installer?
So please correct me on any of this if I am wrong.


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well I could not get it to do that. It was flagged as an update yesterday so I rather naively let it install it.

Of course the machine was running XP so it could well be that the interface now uses a different api not supported in xp.
UIA probably.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralf Kefferpuetz" <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


Hi Brian,
using latest SuperAntiSpyware and NVDA 2016.4 RC1. I can handle the
SuperAntiSpyware without any problems. It behaves like the years before.
When I start it up from the systray to perform a scan I can't tab to any
button, but that was always the case for me. I left-click once in the Window
once and then it can be handled by NVDA using tab and so on.

Regards,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: Samstag, 10. Dezember 2016 17:07
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes

Unfortunately just tried the very latest Superantispywre, which a few months
ago was fine, but now seems totally unfine, ie I cannot read any of its
screens or buttons.
Why can't they leave their interfaces alone or at least test them with a
screenreader?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Mann" <rmann0581@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


If you get the Ninite installer for Malware Bytes it is straight forward.
With that being said, It found Malware on a computer that I scanned and I
had to get a sighted person to select and quarantine the Malware.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2016, at 6:11 AM, Brian's Mail list account
<bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

The installer seems to be the biggest hurdle finding the button to
continue. I had to use one of the navigation modes to achieve this. After
that its pretty simple though everything useful tells you you need the
paid version I notice, but for a straight scan and fix or producing a log
its fine. It did unfortunately remove my password tools, which I then had
to reinstall. It also put an auto start in which I removed since it was
becoming annoying.
Brian
Superantispywaare seems to have similar issues. Do they all use the same
kind of installer?
Anyone tried Spybot recently?
I used to have that until it started to fall over a lot.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@comcast.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2016 7:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks










Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


using this program is a mixture of using the tab keys and arrow keys to
get to different parts of the program. Usually when you hear radio
buttons i think it is you can then tab down the list or in some cases
use the arrow keys they seem more like tabs, then you get to the one you
want then tab down the list. Some of the check boxs you can not check
or uncheck they are like default boxs. Others that are not you can..


I am just using the free version of it and mostly update it and scan but
know enough to navigate it and use the different things i might want to
use change etc.


Gene nz

On 10/12/2016 8:01 AM, Don H wrote:
I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks


--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi don


Were you able to get around in the program or did you just tab to see
the other options that it spoke out.

Were you able to see the other settings etc in the program or are you
just using it to scan?

if you are interested i am in the process of putting together a basic
tutorial on how to navigate the program etc.
I might even do a audio tutorial as well.

It will at least give people a idea of how to navigate the program and
also use it.

it will be finished in the next day or so if you are interested and also
later on posted to my website.

Gene nz

On 10/12/2016 8:01 AM, Don H wrote:
I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks


--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene NZ,

I'm glad you're doing a tutorial on malware bytes. I need to learn to use the program myself.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 2:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes

Hi don


Were you able to get around in the program or did you just tab to see the other options that it spoke out.

Were you able to see the other settings etc in the program or are you just using it to scan?

if you are interested i am in the process of putting together a basic tutorial on how to navigate the program etc.
I might even do a audio tutorial as well.

It will at least give people a idea of how to navigate the program and also use it.

it will be finished in the next day or so if you are interested and also later on posted to my website.

Gene nz

On 10/12/2016 8:01 AM, Don H wrote:
I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks


--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It does seem very over protective to me, clobbering some search providers and tools which it says are hacking tools, I guess this depends on whether you think hacking is tweaking things a bit or not.
I have turned off the run at start option but some of the screens do seem to be blank when they are clearly not.

It would be nice if they could actually fix these issues for us then it might be worth buying it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes


Hi, Gene NZ,

I'm glad you're doing a tutorial on malware bytes. I need to learn to use the program myself.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 2:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes

Hi don


Were you able to get around in the program or did you just tab to see the other options that it spoke out.

Were you able to see the other settings etc in the program or are you just using it to scan?

if you are interested i am in the process of putting together a basic tutorial on how to navigate the program etc.
I might even do a audio tutorial as well.

It will at least give people a idea of how to navigate the program and also use it.

it will be finished in the next day or so if you are interested and also later on posted to my website.

Gene nz

On 10/12/2016 8:01 AM, Don H wrote:
I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks


--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Rosemarie


A written and audio tutorial has just gone up to my website. There is a
email that has just been sent out with a link to the page where it was
posted for http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

the tutorials are on my nvda tutorials for other programs page.


Gene nz




Gene nz

On 27/12/2016 5:30 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene NZ,

I'm glad you're doing a tutorial on malware bytes. I need to learn to use the program myself.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2016 2:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and MalWare Bytes

Hi don


Were you able to get around in the program or did you just tab to see the other options that it spoke out.

Were you able to see the other settings etc in the program or are you just using it to scan?

if you are interested i am in the process of putting together a basic tutorial on how to navigate the program etc.
I might even do a audio tutorial as well.

It will at least give people a idea of how to navigate the program and also use it.

it will be finished in the next day or so if you are interested and also later on posted to my website.

Gene nz

On 10/12/2016 8:01 AM, Don H wrote:
I have heard that Malware Bytes is accessible but I can't seem to get
anywhere with it using NVDA. Is there a way to use this program with
NVDA?
Thanks


--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries







--
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics.
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting
the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216
Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries


 

For those who'd like the direct link to Gene's tutorial page for Malwarebytes 3.0, it is:

                         http://accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20navigate%20Malwarebytes%20Anti-Malware%20with%20NVDA.html

It took me a while to find it.

I've never used the premium version, just the home free version, and am still on 2.2.1.   My main purpose for having Malwarebytes, and having clients install it, is as an "in case of emergency" tool.  I run scans every once in a while, but I've never had a detection for real malware on any of my machines.  The most it's tagged is tracking cookies and PUPs (Potentially Unwanted Programs) - some of which were unwanted, others not.
--
Brian

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