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SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

Pranav Lal #12223 Hi all, When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any speech output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other programs that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such issues by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating system. Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 Nvda version = 2016.3 Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? Pranav
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Bobby <bvinton@...> #12225 Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the reset options in recovery. Good luck toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: Hi all, When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any speech output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other programs that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such issues by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating system. Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 Nvda version = 2016.3 Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? Pranav
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Pranav Lal #12231 Hi Bobby, Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather not have to use. Pranav toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote: Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the reset options in recovery. Good luck On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: Hi all, When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any speech output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other programs that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such issues by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating system. Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 Nvda version = 2016.3 Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? Pranav
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Bobby <bvinton@...> #12232 Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows. That was last year. So let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to toggle quoted message Show quoted text On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: Hi Bobby, Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather not have to use. Pranav On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote: Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the reset options in recovery. Good luck On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: Hi all, When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any speech output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other programs that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such issues by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating system. Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 Nvda version = 2016.3 Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? Pranav
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Gene #12233 Just one more example of why not to use a registry cleaner when there is no problem related to the registry. Cleaning the registry does nothing most of the time and entails a slight risk even when using an unaggressive one, at least on the default settings, such as the one in CCleaner. But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows. Gene toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows. That was last year. So let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi Bobby, > > Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather > not have to use. > > Pranav > > On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote: >> Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep >> your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall >> windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the >> reset options in recovery. Good luck >> >> >> On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any >>> speech >>> output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other >>> programs >>> that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such >>> issues >>> by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating >>> system. >>> Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 >>> Nvda version = 2016.3 >>> Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? >>> Pranav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
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Chris #12236 If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?
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Jacob Kruger #12237 Does narrator speak at all? From the windows run command, how about trying to set your default SAPI voice system-wide: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl Balabolka? eSpeak TTS app? Otherwise, form of windows repair? Know that's not terribly helpful, but anyway. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2016-12-12 10:47, Chris wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?
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Pranav Lal #12258 Hi Jacob, The problem is solved. See my reply to Chris. However, narrator was speaking and so was espeak with NVDA. Pranav toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Does narrator speak at all? From the windows run command, how about trying to set your default SAPI voice system-wide: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl Balabolka? eSpeak TTS app? Otherwise, form of windows repair? Know that's not terribly helpful, but anyway. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2016-12-12 10:47, Chris wrote: If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?
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Pranav Lal #12259 Chris, Many thanks for your suggestion. I was unable to preview the voice from the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and found that they were set to use the wrong audio device. I have set them to the correct one and the voices are speaking again. Pranav toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?
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Pranav Lal #12260 Hi Jene, <snip But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows. PL] The problem has been happening for a while. I have been able to sit down and troubleshoot it only now when I was using SAPI voices. I do not know how far back to restore too. The other reason I want to avoid using system restore is that some windows updates may roll back. Pranav toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Just one more example of why not to use a registry cleaner when there is no problem related to the registry. Cleaning the registry does nothing most of the time and entails a slight risk even when using an unaggressive one, at least on the default settings, such as the one in CCleaner. But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows. That was last year. So let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi Bobby, > > Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather > not have to use. > > Pranav > > On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote: >> Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep >> your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall >> windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the >> reset options in recovery. Good luck >> >> >> On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any >>> speech >>> output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other >>> programs >>> that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such >>> issues >>> by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating >>> system. >>> Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 >>> Nvda version = 2016.3 >>> Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? >>> Pranav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
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Gene #12261 Are you saying you want to solve the problem without doing any reversion? I don't know the solution in that case. I don't know how long you have been aware of the problem but if you were aware of it from the outset, running system restore at the start would probably have solved the problem. Of course, system restore may cause problems but it usually doesn't. Gene toggle quoted message Show quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Pranav Lal Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 6:40 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Hi Jene, <snip But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows. PL] The problem has been happening for a while. I have been able to sit down and troubleshoot it only now when I was using SAPI voices. I do not know how far back to restore too. The other reason I want to avoid using system restore is that some windows updates may roll back. Pranav From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:27 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Just one more example of why not to use a registry cleaner when there is no problem related to the registry. Cleaning the registry does nothing most of the time and entails a slight risk even when using an unaggressive one, at least on the default settings, such as the one in CCleaner. But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows. That was last year. So let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: > Hi Bobby, > > Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather > not have to use. > > Pranav > > On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote: >> Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep >> your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall >> windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the >> reset options in recovery. Good luck >> >> >> On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any >>> speech >>> output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other >>> programs >>> that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such >>> issues >>> by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating >>> system. >>> Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607 >>> Nvda version = 2016.3 >>> Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask? >>> Pranav >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > >
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Jacob Kruger #12273 Pranav, glad you got it sorted. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2016-12-13 02:40, Pranav Lal wrote: toggle quoted message Show quoted text Hi Jacob, The problem is solved. See my reply to Chris. However, narrator was speaking and so was espeak with NVDA. Pranav From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:31 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA Does narrator speak at all? From the windows run command, how about trying to set your default SAPI voice system-wide: C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl Balabolka? eSpeak TTS app? Otherwise, form of windows repair? Know that's not terribly helpful, but anyway. Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2016-12-12 10:47, Chris wrote: If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?
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Chris #12289 Glad you got it sorted out quite easily in the end Its just a case of digging further for that one setting that’s causing the issue Well done!
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