SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA


Pranav Lal
 

Hi all,

When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any speech
output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other programs
that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such issues
by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating system.
Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
Nvda version = 2016.3
Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
Pranav


Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the reset options in recovery. Good luck

On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi all,

When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any speech
output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other programs
that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such issues
by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating system.
Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
Nvda version = 2016.3
Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
Pranav




Pranav Lal
 

Hi Bobby,

Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather
not have to use.

Pranav

On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote:
Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep
your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall
windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the
reset options in recovery. Good luck


On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi all,

When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any
speech
output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other
programs
that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such
issues
by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating
system.
Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
Nvda version = 2016.3
Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
Pranav








Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows. That was last year. So let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to

On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi Bobby,

Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather
not have to use.

Pranav

On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@optonline.net> wrote:
Well you can try resetting windows 10. One of the options is to keep
your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall
windows. At this time I don't have any ideas. You can find all the
reset options in recovery. Good luck


On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
Hi all,

When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any
speech
output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other
programs
that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such
issues
by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating
system.
Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
Nvda version = 2016.3
Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
Pranav







Gene
 

Just one more example of why not to use a registry cleaner when there is no problem related to the registry.  Cleaning the registry does nothing most of the time and entails a slight risk even when using an unaggressive one, at least on the default settings, such as the one in CCleaner. 
 
But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Bobby
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my
computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke
sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows.  That was last year.  So
let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to


On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
> Hi Bobby,
>
> Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather
> not have to use.
>
> Pranav
>
> On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote:
>> Well you can try resetting windows 10.  One of the options is to keep
>> your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall
>> windows.  At this time I don't have any ideas.  You can find all the
>> reset options in recovery.  Good luck
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any
>>> speech
>>> output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other
>>> programs
>>> that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such
>>> issues
>>> by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating
>>> system.
>>> Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
>>> Nvda version = 2016.3
>>> Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>




Chris
 

If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?

 

 

 


Jacob Kruger
 

Does narrator speak at all?


From the windows run command, how about trying to set your default SAPI voice system-wide:

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl


Balabolka?


eSpeak TTS app?


Otherwise, form of windows repair?


Know that's not terribly helpful, but anyway.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-12-12 10:47, Chris wrote:

If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?

 

 

 



Pranav Lal
 

Hi Jacob,

 

The problem is solved. See my reply to Chris. However, narrator was speaking and so was espeak with NVDA.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

Does narrator speak at all?

 

From the windows run command, how about trying to set your default SAPI voice system-wide:

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

 

Balabolka?

 

eSpeak TTS app?

 

Otherwise, form of windows repair?

 

Know that's not terribly helpful, but anyway.

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-12 10:47, Chris wrote:

If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?

 

 

 

 


Pranav Lal
 

Chris,

 

Many thanks for your suggestion.  I was unable to preview the voice from the text to speech settings from within the speech-recognition control panel. However, I went to the advanced properties for the voices and found that they were set to use the  wrong audio device. I have set them to the correct one and the voices are speaking again.

 

Pranav

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?

 

 

 


Pranav Lal
 

Hi Jene,

<snip But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows.

PL] The problem has been happening for a while. I have been able to sit down and troubleshoot it only now when I was using SAPI voices. I do not know how far back to restore too. The other reason I want to avoid using system restore is that some windows updates may roll back.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

Just one more example of why not to use a registry cleaner when there is no problem related to the registry.  Cleaning the registry does nothing most of the time and entails a slight risk even when using an unaggressive one, at least on the default settings, such as the one in CCleaner. 

 

But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:03 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my
computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke
sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows.  That was last year.  So
let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to


On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
> Hi Bobby,
>
> Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather
> not have to use.
>
> Pranav
>
> On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote:
>> Well you can try resetting windows 10.  One of the options is to keep
>> your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall
>> windows.  At this time I don't have any ideas.  You can find all the
>> reset options in recovery.  Good luck
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any
>>> speech
>>> output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other
>>> programs
>>> that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such
>>> issues
>>> by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating
>>> system.
>>> Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
>>> Nvda version = 2016.3
>>> Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



Gene
 

Are you saying you want to solve the problem without doing any reversion?  I don't know the solution in that case.  I don't know how long you have been aware of the problem but if you were aware of it from the outset, running system restore at the start would probably have solved the problem.  Of course, system restore may cause problems but it usually doesn't. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Pranav Lal
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

Hi Jene,

<snip But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows.

PL] The problem has been happening for a while. I have been able to sit down and troubleshoot it only now when I was using SAPI voices. I do not know how far back to restore too. The other reason I want to avoid using system restore is that some windows updates may roll back.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 11:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

Just one more example of why not to use a registry cleaner when there is no problem related to the registry.  Cleaning the registry does nothing most of the time and entails a slight risk even when using an unaggressive one, at least on the default settings, such as the one in CCleaner. 

 

But if you have system restore running and its working properly, running a restore point should solve the problem instead of having to reinitialize windows.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Bobby

Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2016 11:03 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

Well just to let you know I had the same problem because I cleaned my
computer with c cleaner and it cleaned the wrong registry keys and broke
sapi 5 and had no choise butt to reset windows.  That was last year.  So
let me know if you fix your problem in a different than I had to


On 12/11/2016 11:54 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
> Hi Bobby,
>
> Indeed, resetting windows is the nuclear option which I would rather
> not have to use.
>
> Pranav
>
> On 12/12/16, Bobby <bvinton@...> wrote:
>> Well you can try resetting windows 10.  One of the options is to keep
>> your files the second options is to wipe your hard drive and reinstall
>> windows.  At this time I don't have any ideas.  You can find all the
>> reset options in recovery.  Good luck
>>
>>
>> On 12/11/2016 7:12 PM, Pranav Lal wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> When I switch to a SAPI voice like Microsoft David, I do not get any
>>> speech
>>> output. I suspect the problem is SAPI rather than NVDA because other
>>> programs
>>> that use SAPI are also not speaking. At one time, it was easy to fix such
>>> issues
>>> by reinstalling SAPI but SAPI 5.4 is incorporated into the operating
>>> system.
>>> Operating system = Windows 10 64bit build 1607
>>> Nvda version = 2016.3
>>> Anyone any ideas on how to troubleshoot this or who I can ask?
>>> Pranav
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



Jacob Kruger
 

Pranav, glad you got it sorted.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2016-12-13 02:40, Pranav Lal wrote:

Hi Jacob,

 

The problem is solved. See my reply to Chris. However, narrator was speaking and so was espeak with NVDA.

 

Pranav

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 2:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] SAPI voices not speaking when I switch to them with NVDA

 

Does narrator speak at all?

 

From the windows run command, how about trying to set your default SAPI voice system-wide:

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Speech\SpeechUX\sapi.cpl

 

Balabolka?

 

eSpeak TTS app?

 

Otherwise, form of windows repair?

 

Know that's not terribly helpful, but anyway.

 

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2016-12-12 10:47, Chris wrote:

If you go to speech recognition in control panel and select text to speech can you preview the voice through there?

 

 

 

 



Chris
 

Glad you got it sorted out quite easily in the end

Its just a case of digging further for that one setting that’s causing the issue

Well done!