Hello,

TeamTalk is one that does distinguish between them, I believe that
TeamSpeak does as well when mapping out keys for push to talk.

Thanks.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:56 PM Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote:

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I expect there are some cases, I don't know where, where a left or
right modifier is required. If you turn on input help in NVDA and
press modifiers, you will hear them distinguished such as right
shift and left shift. If NVDA is aware of which modifier is being
used, then presumably, programmers can designate that a specific
modifier be used. But I can't recall ever seeing this done in any
program.

Gene
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*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] starting NVDA

Gene wrote, with regard to the ALT key:

Shortcuts don't distinguish between which alt key is used in
creating a shortcut command.

I have never, ever seen one that does, either. On a recent thread
on one of the blind-related technology lists someone made the
assertion that there was a program that cared about whether, I
believe, a left shift versus right shift button was pressed as part
of a keyboard shortcut. Given what I know about keyboards and
standard drivers for same, I have never, ever known of any
duplicated key, e.g., ALT, CTRL, or SHIFT, to be distinguishable by
the operating system based on which one is actually pressed. Their
whole purpose for being duplicated is to allow modifications to be
made conveniently (or relatively so) using whatever hand makes sense
for each of the keys so that all keys of a multi-key shortcut can be
depressed at once.

By the way, and apropos of nothing, really, has anyone ever
encountered anything longer than a 4-key-at-a-time-press keyboard
shortcut? I believe I've encountered one or two of those and I'm
not certain of that, but even three-key-at-a-time-press shortcuts
are relatively rare when compared against two-key-press ones.
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*/Brian/*

*/ Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions
from /**/insufficient premises./*

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Hi,

Might you tell me what "push to talk" is and how it is used?

Thanks, sorry for the inrreuption.

John S



On 12/22/16 16:36, Nimer Jaber wrote:

Hello,

TeamTalk is one that does distinguish between them, I believe that
TeamSpeak does as well when mapping out keys for push to talk.

Thanks.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 2:56 PM Gene <gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...>> wrote:

__
I expect there are some cases, I don't know where, where a left or
right modifier is required. If you turn on input help in NVDA and
press modifiers, you will hear them distinguished such as right
shift and left shift. If NVDA is aware of which modifier is being
used, then presumably, programmers can designate that a specific
modifier be used. But I can't recall ever seeing this done in any
program.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@...>
*Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2016 2:51 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] starting NVDA

Gene wrote, with regard to the ALT key:

Shortcuts don't distinguish between which alt key is used in
creating a shortcut command.

I have never, ever seen one that does, either. On a recent thread
on one of the blind-related technology lists someone made the
assertion that there was a program that cared about whether, I
believe, a left shift versus right shift button was pressed as part
of a keyboard shortcut. Given what I know about keyboards and
standard drivers for same, I have never, ever known of any
duplicated key, e.g., ALT, CTRL, or SHIFT, to be distinguishable by
the operating system based on which one is actually pressed. Their
whole purpose for being duplicated is to allow modifications to be
made conveniently (or relatively so) using whatever hand makes sense
for each of the keys so that all keys of a multi-key shortcut can be
depressed at once.

By the way, and apropos of nothing, really, has anyone ever
encountered anything longer than a 4-key-at-a-time-press keyboard
shortcut? I believe I've encountered one or two of those and I'm
not certain of that, but even three-key-at-a-time-press shortcuts
are relatively rare when compared against two-key-press ones.
--
*/Brian/*

*/ Life is the art of drawing sufficient conclusions
from /**/insufficient premises./*

* /~ Samuel Butler, /1835-1902*

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