In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015, but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.

For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:

In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015, but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.

Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it
works just fine with NVDA.

At least it did for opening and editing a word file. Saving became
problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc, since
it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the original
doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened in the
original doc format, how could it loose information it already has?

<shrug>

But, as for functionality, I had no issues.


On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:

For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA
was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what
changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies
the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears
that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING
SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems
are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved
easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other
and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:

In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to
show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do
NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the
two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015,
but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.

hello.
you should go to the options in tools menu.
in load save open general and uncheck Warn when not saving in ODF or
default format
then find always save as and change it in to Microsoft Word
97/2000/XP/2003 in the combo box.

openoffice does not save as docx and if you want to change your docx files,
you should save them in another formats except docx!
but libreoffice does not have this problem and supports even docx for
saving files.
hope that help.
God bless you.

On 4/17/17, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> wrote:

Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it
works just fine with NVDA.

At least it did for opening and editing a word file. Saving became
problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc, since
it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the original
doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened in the
original doc format, how could it loose information it already has?

<shrug>

But, as for functionality, I had no issues.


On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:

For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA
was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what
changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies
the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears
that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING
SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems
are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved
easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other
and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:

In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to
show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do
NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the
two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015,
but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.

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Just for reference, I installed open office version 4.3 today, and it works just fine with NVDA.

At least it did for opening and editing a word file. Saving became problematic, as it wanted me to save in odt format instead of doc, since it said it would loose formatting information if I saved in the original doc format, which makes no sense to me, since it was opened in the original doc format, how could it loose information it already has?

<shrug>

But, as for functionality, I had no issues.


On 4/17/2017 7:21 AM, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io wrote:

For many months I resisted to do this.

But the only solution to this annoying behavior of LibreOffice/NVDA was downgrading to LibreOffice 5.1.

I don't have the patience, the knowledge or the time to look for what changed from versions 5.1 to 5.2 of LibreOffice. but sure here lies the cause of the problem I described months ago.

Even if I don't like to use old versions of any software, it appears that the problems of using LibreOffice with NVDA ARE FAR FROM BEING SOLVED.

I feell very sad because both programs are excellent and the problems are just a few (but very annoying) and could very probably be solved easily if both developers were willing to communicate with each other and search the causes.



Em 03/01/2017 10:00, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io escreveu:

In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015, but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.

Just FYI, OpenOffice can open files in .docx format without any difficulty,
but it will not save in that format (at least up through version 4.1.2,
which is where I stopped downloading OpenOffice).
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the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.*

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Nasrin,

          As a matter of policy I never use anything but the latest versions of open source or free software such as LibreOffice, so I really can't advise regarding what earlier versions are like.   I personally would not use an earlier version unless the latest has somehow become broken from an accessibility standpoint, and that's not particularly likely.
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Brian

     The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

            ~ Dorothy Nevill

In a Calc spreadsheet I have some cells with numbers formatted to show only two or three decimal places.

But NVDA reads all digits before and after the decimal point.

When I copy the cell contents to the clipboard and use INSERT+C to do NVDA read the contents, the number is announced correctly, with the two or three decimal places.

I don't remember seeing this issue in LibreOffice 4 and NVDA 2015, but cannot tell wich program is causing the problem.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 09:28 am, Walmir Schultz wrote:

The fact that a screen reader announces something different than that is
shown in the screen is a very serious problem.

If we encounter this problem in a spreadsheet, the urgency of a solution
is unquestionable.

It is only truly urgent, as opposed to a major annoyance, if what is being
announced in reference to a number deprives you of the information you
need.

If something is set to display two or three decimal places and NVDA reads
five, as an example, you can still work with that.  Your description states
that there is an excess of information, not a lack of it.

If you believe you've found a bug, and I believe you have, then reporting it
via the NVDA Github bug reporting page is about all you can do.  Things get
fixed in due time.
--
*Brian*

*     * *The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in
the right place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting
moment.*

*           ~ Dorothy Nevill*

**