Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

It doesn't need the purchased  version.  You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files.  if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that.  It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.

We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does. 

 

Gene

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might  be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal?  Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


> Hi,
>
>
> My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
> backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
> if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
> NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
> it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.
>
>
> The most used features in Word for me are:
>
> The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
> Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
> get flagged;
>
> The word-counter;
>
> Page-breaks;
>
> Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).
>
> If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
> and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.
>
>
>
>
>

It doesn't need the purchased  version.  You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files.  if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that.  It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.

We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does. 

 

Gene

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might  be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal?  Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


> Hi,
>
>
> My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
> backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
> if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
> NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
> it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.
>
>
> The most used features in Word for me are:
>
> The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
> Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
> get flagged;
>
> The word-counter;
>
> Page-breaks;
>
> Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).
>
> If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
> and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.
>
>
>
>
>

Well, I got Jarte, and checked the page linked in the help dialogue, and the link on that page is either broken or the resource it was supposed to direct you to has been removed. Either way, I'm having to work with rtf files, which NVDA doesn't like very much, at least when it comes to accurately reporting things like bold, italics and so on in Say-All. Still, it's better than nothing at all and it's portable. I suppose I could adjust to not having spoken page numbers for the time being.

It doesn't need the purchased  version.  You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files.  if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that.  It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.

We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does. 

 

Gene

From: Brian's Mail list account

Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might  be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal?  Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


> Hi,
>
>
> My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
> backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
> if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
> NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
> it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.
>
>
> The most used features in Word for me are:
>
> The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
> Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
> get flagged;
>
> The word-counter;
>
> Page-breaks;
>
> Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).
>
> If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
> and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.
>
>
>
>
>

There are programs such as Open Office which I've seen discussed often here.
But I haven't used them and I don't know what the limitations are in terms
of accessibility. I read the messages about such programs but I don't use
them so I don't remember details. The only thing I remember about Open
office is that read to all doesn't work properly and, as I recall, the
maximum that is read is a paragraph at which point, reading stops.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


Well, I got Jarte, and checked the page linked in the help dialogue, and the
link on that page is either broken or the resource it was supposed to direct
you to has been removed. Either way, I'm having to work with rtf files,
which NVDA doesn't like very much, at least when it comes to accurately
reporting things like bold, italics and so on in Say-All. Still, it's better
than nothing at all and it's portable. I suppose I could adjust to not
having spoken page numbers for the time being.




On 15/01/2017 10:20 PM, Gene wrote:

It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft
pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read
docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you
that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the
subject is discussed further.
We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all
the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the
program to see if it does.

Gene


From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load
in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do

some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like
read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of

Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the
key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it

away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


> Hi,
>
>
> My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
> backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
> if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
> NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice
if
> it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have
everything.
>
>
> The most used features in Word for me are:
>
> The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
> Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
> get flagged;
>
> The word-counter;
>
> Page-breaks;
>
> Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).
>
> If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
> and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.
>
>
>
>
>

Jarte doesn't need Office installed. All you have to do is install the
compatibility pack which makes Word and some other programs able to read
Docx files. You can install and use the compatibility pack whether Office
is installed or not.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


hi.
i recommend you libreoffice.
but it has also the limitations which gene mentioned like openoffice,
libreoffice is fork of openoffice and can export documents as docx.
also if i am correct, i remember that jarte needs microsoft office
installed, for openning docx files.

On 1/15/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

There are programs such as Open Office which I've seen discussed often
here.
But I haven't used them and I don't know what the limitations are in
terms
of accessibility. I read the messages about such programs but I don't
use
them so I don't remember details. The only thing I remember about Open
office is that read to all doesn't work properly and, as I recall, the
maximum that is read is a paragraph at which point, reading stops.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 6:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


Well, I got Jarte, and checked the page linked in the help dialogue, and
the
link on that page is either broken or the resource it was supposed to
direct
you to has been removed. Either way, I'm having to work with rtf files,
which NVDA doesn't like very much, at least when it comes to accurately
reporting things like bold, italics and so on in Say-All. Still, it's
better
than nothing at all and it's portable. I suppose I could adjust to not
having spoken page numbers for the time being.




On 15/01/2017 10:20 PM, Gene wrote:

It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft
pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to
read
docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling
you
that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where
the
subject is discussed further.
We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all
the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at
the
program to see if it does.

Gene


From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to
load
in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to
do

some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like
read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version
of

Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the
key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving
it

away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


> Hi,
>
>
> My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
> backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was
wondering
> if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
> NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice
if
> it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have
everything.
>
>
> The most used features in Word for me are:
>
> The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
> Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
> get flagged;
>
> The word-counter;
>
> Page-breaks;
>
> Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).
>
> If there's something out there that does all these things, and is
free
> and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.
>
>
>
>
>

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El 14/01/2017, a las 11:52 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> escribió:

Jarte is free and has a spell checker. That's what I use for word processing.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

El 14/01/2017, a las 11:52 p.m., Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> escribió:

Jarte is free and has a spell checker. That's what I use for word processing.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2017 9:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

I don't know how much Jarte plus costs these days, when I bought it over
10 years ago it cost me $15.
-----Original Message----- From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 10:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like
read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward"
<sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have
everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.
We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does.

Gene


From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.

On Jan 15, 2017, at 15:16, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:

I would like to caution users that use an microsoft product, ie office 2013 and up certainly it does this on 2016.
Aparently the older software has some incompatibility when upgrading the os from one version to another.
It tends to default extentions back to open xml viewer which itself is not helpfull.
Worse excell refuses to be able to process file commands and can not start until you repair office.
For the systems that had filter pack aand the compatibility pack installed, I solved this by removing both these packs then repairing office as on restart no files opened at all.
Ever since then updates have worked as expected.
If you are on a shared system with office.
Every time you update the os especially when its a security update not a performance update, including newer and older office updates, you will need to repair office with the quick repair before using it again.
I am not sure why that is but thats a way to get round it.
If you often need a share then thats fine but if you don't it is easier to kill the extra converter packs.
I should also want to add that I have old word xp converters for some older files that came from an xp machine that perminantly exist on my dropbox cloud, they are so small just like xp sound recorder its unlikely I will ever kill them so they stay till I die I guess.
I have no inttention of killing them.
The only thing you do need is sevenzip to decompress them but if someone wants to make an installer email me and I'll send the link for copywrite reasons jarte can't store those on its site but.

On 16/01/2017 12:20 a.m., Gene wrote:
It doesn't need the purchased version. You can install the Microsoft pack that gives Microsoft Word and some other programs the ability to read docx files. if you try to open a Docx file, a dialog comes up telling you that. It may provide a link in the dialog to the JARTE web page where the subject is discussed further.
We don't know how Word is being useed so we don't know if JARTE has all the features desired but you can read about it and install and look at the program to see if it does.

Gene


From: Brian's Mail list account
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 4:38 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA


The thing about Jarte is that to open docx files it needs the purchased
version as far as I know. OOpen and Libra Office seem to be able to load in
docx files, but as has been discussed here of late, the authors need to do
some more work to allow screenreaders to work on all parts of them like read
all etc.

Of course it might be possible to find an old copy of an older version of
Office pro corporate which I did and it still worked aand accepted the key.
Legal? Well, its a grey area isn't it. if the original buyer is giving it
away, then who cares.

Brian

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From: "Sharni-Lee Ward" <sharni-lee.ward@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 5:18 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessible word processors with NVDA

Hi,


My computer's keyboard's been acting up, and I have my Mum's as a
backup, but it doesn't have Microsoft Office on it, and I was wondering
if there was a decent free word processor out there, accessible with
NVDA, that I could install on that computer instead. It would be nice if
it could read and edit .docx files, but I'm aware I can't have everything.


The most used features in Word for me are:

The Spellchecker, including a whole dictionary of words I've added so
Pokémon names, anime characters' names and names I just made up don't
get flagged;

The word-counter;

Page-breaks;

Headings (mostly for aesthetic reasons).

If there's something out there that does all these things, and is free
and accessible, I'll be pretty happy with it.