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I do use the add on, but of course realise its only a confirmation that the command keys were pressed not that any action of that sort was available where you were at the time.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis L" <dennisl1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions


What adon do you need to get?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 6:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

The ctrl+c/x/v situation is that NVDA will voice the keypress in some situations and not in others. From previous posts I understand it is not easy to do in programming terms. As for the add-on, this only confirms you have pressed the correct keys, not that the function has actually worked. I don't use the add-on, it is something I live with and it is not an issue.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: 1 February 2017 09:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For
me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I
press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it
announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to
indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching
the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from
NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when
you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like
"CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading
the status bar and so on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the
default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go
straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check
"Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the
work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA
to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood
with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a
cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Dan Thompson
 

Thank you very very much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 5:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

 

Hi Dan,

 

The change re backstage is in Office 2013 / 2016.  It might be in slightly different places in different office programs and versions, I'm using Word 2016:

 

1. In Word, Press ALT+F for the file menu.

2. Press T for options.

3. Press CONTROL+TAB three times to get to the "save" settings.

4. Press alt+s or tab until the focus is on "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

5. Press spacebar to check or uncheck this option (checked = you will get the traditional file open / save dialog when you press control+o or control+s, unchecked = you get the new backstage pane).

6. Press ENTER to save the changes and close the dialog.  That should then work in the other office programs as well.

 

For your other question about add-ons, official NVDA add-ons are available from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html  Once you download one, open the NVDA tools menu, press NVDA+N then t, then a to open the add-ons manager and you can install the add-on from there.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

Yes your advice did help.  However, where do I go to make the change regarding backstage?

Thank you very much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

 

Hi Dan,

 

Welcome to the group!

 

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that?  For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter?  This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.


You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog.  This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key.  Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.

 

Re saving files.  Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:

"ctrl+s

Save As  tab  selected  Save As  Alt, F, A  "  That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage".  If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

 

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog  File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected some filename.docx"

Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

 

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected Document.rtf

"

 

In Notepad I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog  File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected *.txt"

 

 

Not sure if that helps though?

 

Regards


Quentin.

 

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

                First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?

 

Q2.  Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving  file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.

 

When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA  does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

 

This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim

 

“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

What add on will do this?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 4:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For
me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I
press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it
announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to
indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching
the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from
NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when
you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like
"CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading
the status bar and so on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the
default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go
straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check
"Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the
work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA
to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood
with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a
cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

What adon do you need to get?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 6:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

The ctrl+c/x/v situation is that NVDA will voice the keypress in some situations and not in others. From previous posts I understand it is not easy to do in programming terms. As for the add-on, this only confirms you have pressed the correct keys, not that the function has actually worked. I don't use the add-on, it is something I live with and it is not an issue.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: 1 February 2017 09:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For
me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I
press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it
announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to
indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching
the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from
NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when
you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like
"CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading
the status bar and so on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the
default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go
straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check
"Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the
work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA
to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood
with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a
cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Dan,

The change re backstage is in Office 2013 / 2016.  It might be in slightly different places in different office programs and versions, I'm using Word 2016:

1. In Word, Press ALT+F for the file menu.
2. Press T for options.
3. Press CONTROL+TAB three times to get to the "save" settings.
4. Press alt+s or tab until the focus is on "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".
5. Press spacebar to check or uncheck this option (checked = you will get the traditional file open / save dialog when you press control+o or control+s, unchecked = you get the new backstage pane).
6. Press ENTER to save the changes and close the dialog.  That should then work in the other office programs as well.

For your other question about add-ons, official NVDA add-ons are available from: https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html  Once you download one, open the NVDA tools menu, press NVDA+N then t, then a to open the add-ons manager and you can install the add-on from there.

Kind regards

Quentin.



On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 11:10 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

Yes your advice did help.  However, where do I go to make the change regarding backstage?

Thank you very much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

 

Hi Dan,

 

Welcome to the group!

 

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that?  For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter?  This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.


You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog.  This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key.  Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.

 

Re saving files.  Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:

"ctrl+s

Save As  tab  selected  Save As  Alt, F, A  "  That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage".  If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

 

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog  File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected some filename.docx"

Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

 

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected Document.rtf

"

 

In Notepad I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog  File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected *.txt"

 

 

Not sure if that helps though?

 

Regards


Quentin.

 

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

                First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?

 

Q2.  Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving  file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.

 

When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA  does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

 

This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim

 

“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


 

hi again.
copy documents without addon only works with html files.
i mean when you are in one browser, select parts of page and then
press control+c to copy your selection, nvda announces copy.
i did not see this addon in the official nvda addons website and i
myself, dont use any addon.
nvda is very perfect even without addon!
i dont remember its name.

On 2/1/17, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:
Yes your advice did help. However, where do I go to make the change
regarding backstage?

Thank you very much.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions



Hi Dan,



Welcome to the group!



Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in
most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER,
but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it
gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a deliberate
press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.


You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's
keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press that
key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as
you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.



Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:

"ctrl+s

Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default
setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to the
save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage
when opening or saving files".



If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:



"ctrl+s

Save As dialog File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name: combo box collapsed

edit Alt+n

selected some filename.docx"

Which is exactly the same if I press f12.



In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:



"ctrl+s

Save As dialog

File name: combo box collapsed

edit Alt+n

selected Document.rtf

"



In Notepad I get:



"ctrl+s

Save As dialog File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name: combo box collapsed

edit Alt+n

selected *.txt"





Not sure if that helps though?



Regards


Quentin.





On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the work
developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to
announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing
control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth,
and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim



“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in
that mind.” —Peter Shepherd









--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



Ph <tel:%2B61%207%203149%203306> +61 7 3149 3306

<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Dan Thompson
 

Yes your advice did help.  However, where do I go to make the change regarding backstage?

Thank you very much.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 10:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

 

Hi Dan,

 

Welcome to the group!

 

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that?  For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter?  This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.


You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog.  This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key.  Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.

 

Re saving files.  Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:

"ctrl+s

Save As  tab  selected  Save As  Alt, F, A  "  That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage".  If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

 

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog  File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected some filename.docx"

Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

 

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected Document.rtf

"

 

In Notepad I get:

 

"ctrl+s

Save As  dialog  File name: File name:

Save as type: Save as type:

File name:  combo box  collapsed

edit  Alt+n

selected *.txt"

 

 

Not sure if that helps though?

 

Regards


Quentin.

 

 

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

                First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?

 

Q2.  Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving  file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.

 

When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA  does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

 

This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim

 

“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Dan Thompson
 

Hi there, what is the add on and where do I download it?
Thanks for your guidance.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 3:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For
me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I
press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it
announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to
indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching
the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from
NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when
you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like
"CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading
the status bar and so on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the
default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go
straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check
"Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the
work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA
to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood
with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a
cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Dan Thompson
 

Thanks very much Chris for your wisdom and comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2017 5:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

The ctrl+c/x/v situation is that NVDA will voice the keypress in some situations and not in others. From previous posts I understand it is not easy to do in programming terms. As for the add-on, this only confirms you have pressed the correct keys, not that the function has actually worked. I don't use the add-on, it is something I live with and it is not an issue.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: 1 February 2017 09:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For
me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I
press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it
announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to
indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching
the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from
NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when
you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like
"CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading
the status bar and so on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the
default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go
straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check
"Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the
work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA
to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood
with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a
cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Chris Mullins
 

The ctrl+c/x/v situation is that NVDA will voice the keypress in some situations and not in others. From previous posts I understand it is not easy to do in programming terms. As for the add-on, this only confirms you have pressed the correct keys, not that the function has actually worked. I don't use the add-on, it is something I live with and it is not an issue.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: 1 February 2017 09:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new member and a few questions

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For
me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I
press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it
announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to
indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching
the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from
NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when
you press that key. Note that it will also announce things like
"CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading
the status bar and so on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the
default setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go
straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check
"Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the
work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA
to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood
with truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a
cell in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


 

hi dan.
and about your last questions, nvda does not announce copy, peist, cut
by default and if you want this feature, you need to install addon or
contact developers of nvda to include this feature to this great
screen reader.

On 2/1/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that? For me, in
most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER,
but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when
it gets to where I pressed enter? This is to indicate that it was a
deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for
instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's
keyboard preferences dialog. This will announce "ENTER" when you press
that key. Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT
ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so
on.

Re saving files. Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As tab selected Save As Alt, F, A " That is using the default
setup of Word showing the "backstage". If I set it up to go straight to
the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the
backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As dialog File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name: combo box collapsed
edit Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

First I am very greatful for this list and all the work
developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to
announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?



Q2. Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when
pressing
control + s when saving file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.



When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your
assistance.





*This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with
truth, and hatred with love.”* —Peace Pilgrim



*“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell
in that mind.”* —Peter Shepherd





--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the group!

Re "Line feed", what program are you in when it announces that?  For me, in most programs, it doesn't necessarily announce anything when I press ENTER, but as I left or right arrow through the text it announces line feed when it gets to where I pressed enter?  This is to indicate that it was a deliberate press of ENTER and not just reaching the right margin for instance.

You can set NVDA to "Speak command keys" by pressing NVDA+4 or from NVDA's keyboard preferences dialog.  This will announce "ENTER" when you press that key.  Note that it will also announce things like "CONTROL+RIGHT ARROW" as you move by word, "NVDA+END" before reading the status bar and so on.

Re saving files.  Again in word, if I press control+s, NVDA reads:
"ctrl+s
Save As  tab  selected  Save As  Alt, F, A  "  That is using the default setup of Word showing the "backstage".  If I set it up to go straight to the save as dialog (file - options - save then check "Don't show the backstage when opening or saving files".

If I have it set to go straight to the save as dialog, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As  dialog  File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name:  combo box  collapsed
edit  Alt+n
selected some filename.docx"
Which is exactly the same if I press f12.

In Wordpad, when I press control+s, I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As  dialog
File name:  combo box  collapsed
edit  Alt+n
selected Document.rtf
"

In Notepad I get:

"ctrl+s
Save As  dialog  File name: File name:
Save as type: Save as type:
File name:  combo box  collapsed
edit  Alt+n
selected *.txt"


Not sure if that helps though?

Regards

Quentin.


On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dan Thompson <dmt031073@...> wrote:

                First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?

 

Q2.  Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving  file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.

 

When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA  does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

 

This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim

 

“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd

 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training Material Developer
Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org 
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Dan Thompson
 

                First I am very greatful for this list and all the work developers have put into NVDA.

Q1. Instead of announcing “line feed”, Is it possible to cause NVDA to announce new line or blank when pressing enter to move to a new line?

 

Q2.  Recently NVDA in my class room will not say “file name” when pressing control + s when saving  file for the first time.

NVDA will not say “save as” when pressing f12.

 

When we press control + c or control + v, NVDA  does not announce,

“copy” or “paste.” Is there some setting that is not correct?

Thanks for reading this long email and thanks in advance for your assistance.

 

 

This is the way of peace: Overcome evil with good, and falsehood with truth, and hatred with love.” —Peace Pilgrim

 

“God is the mind that imagines physical reality. We are each like a cell in that mind.” —Peter Shepherd