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nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
Do you have any plans to develop any addon like you describe?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes Here's how to fix this, and hopefully have it wait until something has been copied. * Write an addon which binds control x and control c. When you press one of these keys, It sets a flag. * Have the addon create a window and call AddClipboardFormatListener. When responding to WM_CLIPBOARDUPDATE, it should speak cut or copied depending on what was pressed. On 2/21/2017 8:45 PM, Kwork wrote: Thank you Gene from NZ. While I'd still like things to be different,clipboard. Travisor not.
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Tyler Spivey
Here's how to fix this, and hopefully have it wait until something has been copied.
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* Write an addon which binds control x and control c. When you press one of these keys, It sets a flag. * Have the addon create a window and call AddClipboardFormatListener. When responding to WM_CLIPBOARDUPDATE, it should speak cut or copied depending on what was pressed. On 2/21/2017 8:45 PM, Kwork wrote:
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Kwork
Thank you Gene from NZ. While I'd still like things to be different, this is
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a good check to make sure something's been copied or cut to the clipboard. Travis ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes When ever i do a copy and pastei always use a extra step which is using the nvda key + letter C and it will tell me if there is text there or not. My self i do not need to know or hear it say copy or paste. it is just a matter of when i do do a copy i put in that extra step. The same idea if you use the nvda key + f9 key to start a mark and then the nvda key + f10 to say it has been copied i can confirm with the extra step if needed. Gene nz On 22/02/2017 11:38 AM, Kwork wrote: I used that add-on for a short while. The problem I found was that it-- <b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics. http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216 Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
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Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
When ever i do a copy and pastei always use a extra step which is using
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the nvda key + letter C and it will tell me if there is text there or not. My self i do not need to know or hear it say copy or paste. it is just a matter of when i do do a copy i put in that extra step. The same idea if you use the nvda key + f9 key to start a mark and then the nvda key + f10 to say it has been copied i can confirm with the extra step if needed. Gene nz On 22/02/2017 11:38 AM, Kwork wrote:
I used that add-on for a short while. The problem I found was that it wasn't --
<b>Check out the new location of my accessibility central website for NVDA tutorials, NVDA road tested programs, and other eyesight related topics. http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/ If you would like to keep up to date with whats being updated on our website, you can also follow us on facebook by visiting the following link https://en-gb.facebook.com/people/AccessibilityCentral-Net/100009727930216 Also, check out which New Zealand libraries have the NVDA screen reader available by visiting the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries |
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john s
As I understand it, the addon isn't at fault. The only thing the
addon does is tell you that the keys were pressed. It isn't
intended to tell you that the action was done.
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earlier, Kwork, wrote: From what I've been told, Window Eyes also waits for the action, and doesn't rely solely on the key press. |
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Kwork
From what I've been told, Window Eyes also waits
for the action, and doesn't rely solely on the key press.
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From: Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other
keystrokes That isn't how most screen-readers work. I
used to try to encourage that this feature be properly implemented by advocating
for it here but I've given up. JAWS knows when a copy or paste has been
actually done and doesn't report it otherwise. So does System
Access. I don't recall what Window-eyes does but since both JAWS and
System
Acceess can do it, I would think it would be within
reason to have NVDA do it.
Gene
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From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other
keystrokes readers or at least most of them work. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 21, 2017 8:12:32 AM "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@...> wrote: > Please note the add-on Announces the keypress only, not that the function > has actually worked properly. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David > Griffith > Sent: 21 February 2017 13:01 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes > > There is an addon which makes these announcements available. > > > It is called Fake Clipboard announce or something like that. > > You should able to find it on the addons repositary. > > > > David Griffith > > On 21/02/2017 12:32, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke >> around on. It never used to bother me that NVDA doesn't announce cut, >> copy, paste, in particular, and other functions accessible using >> windows standard keys, but I've got a friend who is a new user of NVDA >> and he needs some more feedback from keystrokes, particularly these >> clipboard functions. Is there a setting to enable speaking for these >> keys, or do I need to install an add-on for this? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Erik >> >> Sent with AquaMail for Android >> http://www.aqua-mail.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > |
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Kwork
I used that add-on for a short while. The problem I found was that it wasn't
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reliable. There were times that I'd use it, hear the announcement, only to find that the action hadn't been true to the announcement. The add-on seems to verify the keystroke, but doesn't wait to do so till after the action itself has been verified. This is one small area where Jaws is still ahead. Travis ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes There is an addon which makes these announcements available. It is called Fake Clipboard announce or something like that. You should able to find it on the addons repositary. David Griffith On 21/02/2017 12:32, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke |
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Brian's Mail list account
It was not there when I looked last month. I'm sure many do have a copy somewhere. Its around here somewhere but I think in order to get it on the site you need to convince them its needed and also if possible find the original author for permissions.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Griffith" <daj.griffith@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes There is an addon which makes these announcements available. |
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Brian's Mail list account
No but there is an add on called fake clipboard announcements. Fake because it only speaks the assumed function, and in no way means that this has worked. If you want to know that there is a key sequence in nvda that speaks the contents of the clipboard.
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In the old days I believe the ethos was this. There is no way that windows actually alerts access software that any of these commands has been successful, so why should we waste verbosity saying they have been activated, when silence is no different in its meaning. My feelings are different. Why>? Well many people are not confident typists and cannot be sure what they typed so very important possible functions being spoken can be very comforting. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "erik burggraaf" <erik@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 12:32 PM Subject: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke around on. It never used to bother me that NVDA doesn't announce cut, copy, paste, in particular, and other functions accessible using windows standard keys, but I've got a friend who is a new user of NVDA and he needs some more feedback from keystrokes, particularly these clipboard functions. Is there a setting to enable speaking for these keys, or do I need to install an add-on for this? |
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Gene
That isn't how most screen-readers work. I
used to try to encourage that this feature be properly implemented by advocating
for it here but I've given up. JAWS knows when a copy or paste has been
actually done and doesn't report it otherwise. So does System
Access. I don't recall what Window-eyes does but since both JAWS and
System
Acceess can do it, I would think it would be within
reason to have NVDA do it.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: erik burggraaf
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other
keystrokes readers or at least most of them work. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 21, 2017 8:12:32 AM "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@...> wrote: > Please note the add-on Announces the keypress only, not that the function > has actually worked properly. > > Cheers > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David > Griffith > Sent: 21 February 2017 13:01 > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes > > There is an addon which makes these announcements available. > > > It is called Fake Clipboard announce or something like that. > > You should able to find it on the addons repositary. > > > > David Griffith > > On 21/02/2017 12:32, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke >> around on. It never used to bother me that NVDA doesn't announce cut, >> copy, paste, in particular, and other functions accessible using >> windows standard keys, but I've got a friend who is a new user of NVDA >> and he needs some more feedback from keystrokes, particularly these >> clipboard functions. Is there a setting to enable speaking for these >> keys, or do I need to install an add-on for this? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Erik >> >> Sent with AquaMail for Android >> http://www.aqua-mail.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > |
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erik burggraaf <erik@...>
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the bad is of the way that all screen readers or at least most of them work.
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Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On February 21, 2017 8:12:32 AM "Chris Mullins" <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
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Simone Dal Maso
Yes,
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there is the addon, but it will say "paste" also if you don't paste any text. So keep in mind that it works, but you don't really know if you have copied or pasted the text. It says "copy" when you press ctrl-c. Il 21/02/2017 14:10, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
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Chris Mullins
Please note the add-on Announces the keypress only, not that the function
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has actually worked properly. Cheers Chris -----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith Sent: 21 February 2017 13:01 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda announcing clipboard functions and other keystrokes There is an addon which makes these announcements available. It is called Fake Clipboard announce or something like that. You should able to find it on the addons repositary. David Griffith On 21/02/2017 12:32, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke |
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David Griffith
There is an addon which makes these announcements available.
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It is called Fake Clipboard announce or something like that. You should able to find it on the addons repositary. David Griffith On 21/02/2017 12:32, erik burggraaf wrote:
Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke around on. It never used to bother me that NVDA doesn't announce cut, copy, paste, in particular, and other functions accessible using windows standard keys, but I've got a friend who is a new user of NVDA and he needs some more feedback from keystrokes, particularly these clipboard functions. Is there a setting to enable speaking for these keys, or do I need to install an add-on for this? |
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erik burggraaf <erik@...>
Hi, I have to figure this out and don't have an nvda machine to poke around on. It never used to bother me that NVDA doesn't announce cut, copy, paste, in particular, and other functions accessible using windows standard keys, but I've got a friend who is a new user of NVDA and he needs some more feedback from keystrokes, particularly these clipboard functions. Is there a setting to enable speaking for these keys, or do I need to install an add-on for this?
Thanks, Erik Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com |
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