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Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Joshua Tubbs
 

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Gene
 

We’ll see what other people say.  I checked with Chrome and I have JAVA script off.  There was no number sign and the home page could be read as a typical web page. 
 
What browser are you using? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:57 PM
Subject: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with
 
Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Sascha Cowley
 

This is a problem I've encountered before, and I just checked to make sure my usual solution works, which it does. If you focus the link you want and "move mouse to navigator object" and then move the mouse a tiny bit the submenus are shown.

On 7/11/2019 07:57, Joshua Tubbs wrote:
Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Jonathan COHN
 

So, if this is a website with MouseOver actions that do not have equivalent keyboard interaction, then you probably will not have much luck. Gene's use of turning off JavaScript is interesting, sometimes sites are better at working without JavaScript than they are with general universal design. You will often find Developers that will create lists of all the links, and then hide those links with JavaScript, only to make them visible again on certain actions.
Best Wishes,
Jonathan

On 11/6/19, 3:57 PM, "nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Joshua Tubbs via Groups.Io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of orin8722=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

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Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Gene
 

I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of the links and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.  I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible to me.  In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links.  You really only need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if this or that accomodation may be overdoing it. 
 
I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information, we can see them.  But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show me any.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
    Hi all,
   
    I just visited the following website:
   
    http://canadianxpress.ca/
   
    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
    each time I've encountered issues.
    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
    will be present. Not with this one, however...
   
    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
   
   
   
   




Joshua Tubbs
 

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of the links
and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see that the site has
a login place, and you didn't say if you did so. I didn't look enough to
see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the
entire home page appears accessible to me. In addition, between each of the
navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links. You really only
need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that
strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information,
we can see them. But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show
me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Joshua Tubbs
 

Okay, I can get it to work, kind of, but mine doesn't work like a
regular link. I have to do a route mouse command to the link with
capslock shift M on Laptop layout and the menu comes up. It does not
when I press enter on it, though...

On 11/7/19, Joshua Tubbs via Groups.Io <orin8722=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of the
links
and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see that the site
has
a login place, and you didn't say if you did so. I didn't look enough to
see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but
the
entire home page appears accessible to me. In addition, between each of
the
navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links. You really
only
need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link,
that
strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even
if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information,
we can see them. But just going to the site and looking around doesn't
show
me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Gene
 

I was using Chrome.  I tested with my XP machine, which I use for e-mail in general.  My version of Chrome is old, for that reason, but I would expect the site to work the same if I tested with my current Chrome version on my Windows 7 machine.  I may do that to be sure.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of the links
> and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see that the site has
> a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.  I didn't look enough to
> see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the
> entire home page appears accessible to me.  In addition, between each of the
> navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links.  You really only
> need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that
> strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.
>
> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information,
> we can see them.  But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show
> me any.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     I just visited the following website:
>
>     http://canadianxpress.ca/
>
>     I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
>     the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
>     each time I've encountered issues.
>     On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
>     with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
>     via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
>     short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
>     to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
>     overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
>     to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
>     route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
>     will be present. Not with this one, however...
>
>     Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Gene
 

What is the text of the link you are working with.  I didn't see links I would necessarily expect to bring up menus.  If you just press enter on the link, what happens.  I would want to test the same link or links.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Okay, I can get it to work, kind of, but mine doesn't work like a
regular link. I have to do a route mouse command to the link with
capslock shift M on Laptop layout and the menu comes up. It does not
when I press enter on it, though...



On 11/7/19, Joshua Tubbs via Groups.Io <orin8722@...> wrote:
> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?
>
> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.
>
>
>
> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of the
>> links
>> and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see that the site
>> has
>> a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.  I didn't look enough to
>> see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but
>> the
>> entire home page appears accessible to me.  In addition, between each of
>> the
>> navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links.  You really
>> only
>> need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link,
>> that
>> strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even
>> if
>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.
>>
>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
>> information,
>> we can see them.  But just going to the site and looking around doesn't
>> show
>> me any.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     I just visited the following website:
>>
>>     http://canadianxpress.ca/
>>
>>     I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
>>     the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
>>     each time I've encountered issues.
>>     On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
>>     with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
>> whether
>>     via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
>>     short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
>>     to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
>>     overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
>>     to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
>>     route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
>>     will be present. Not with this one, however...
>>
>>     Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Sile
 

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me. It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to understand what’s going on.

Sile

On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of the links
and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see that the site has
a login place, and you didn't say if you did so. I didn't look enough to
see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the
entire home page appears accessible to me. In addition, between each of the
navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links. You really only
need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that
strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information,
we can see them. But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show
me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are there so many “skip navigation links”?

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

 

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me. It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s related to JavaScript.

 

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to understand what’s going on.

 

Sile

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:

>

> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

>

> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.

>

>

>

>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of the links

>> and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see that the site has

>> a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.  I didn't look enough to

>> see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but the

>> entire home page appears accessible to me.  In addition, between each of the

>> navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links.  You really only

>> need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that

>> strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if

>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

>>

>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more information,

>> we can see them.  But just going to the site and looking around doesn't show

>> me any.

>>

>> Gene

>> ----- Original Message -----

>>

>>    Hi all,

>>

>>    I just visited the following website:

>>

>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/

>>

>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of

>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and

>>    each time I've encountered issues.

>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs

>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way, whether

>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,

>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links

>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse

>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where

>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and

>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information

>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...

>>

>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

 

 

 
Joshua Tubbs
 

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are there so
many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think it’s
related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of the
links
and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see that the site
has
a login place, and you didn't say if you did so. I didn't look enough
to
see if features are available if you log in that aren't otherwise, but
the
entire home page appears accessible to me. In addition, between each of
the
navigation links is a link that says skip navigation links. You really
only
need one but since someone put a skip link after every navigation link,
that
strongly implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even
if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information,
we can see them. But just going to the site and looking around doesn't
show
me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up uninstalling it.
\

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Joshua Tubbs
 

I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
i'm on the latest version.
I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
change something in NVDA?

On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
uninstalling it.
\


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua
Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Gene
 

You are replying in the wrong thread.  I don’t know why you are having the problem and you said you tried more than one browser.  Chrome updates automatically.
 
Of course strange things happen, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem.  You could try another screen-reader just to see if you get different results.
 
Gene
-----  Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with
 
I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
i'm on the latest version.
I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
change something in NVDA?

On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
> I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
> uninstalling it.
> \
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Tubbs
> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
> can't interact with
>
> I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.
>
> On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
>> I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
>> there so many “skip navigation links”?
>>
>> ******
>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>> you!
>>
>>
>> From: Sile via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
>> NVDA can't interact with
>>
>> Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
>> me.
>> It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
>> it’s related to JavaScript.
>>
>> I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
>> understand what’s going on.
>>
>> Sile
>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?
>>>
>>> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of
>>>> the links and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see
>>>> that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
>>>> I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
>>>> that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
>>>> to me.  In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
>>>> that says skip navigation links.  You really only need one but since
>>>> someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
>>>> implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
>>>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
>>>> information, we can see them.  But just going to the site and
>>>> looking around doesn't show me any.
>>>>
>>>> Gene
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>
>>>>    Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>    I just visited the following website:
>>>>
>>>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/
>>>>
>>>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end of
>>>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
>>>>    each time I've encountered issues.
>>>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
>>>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
>>>> whether
>>>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
>>>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
>>>> links
>>>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
>>>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites where
>>>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation and
>>>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
>>>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...
>>>>
>>>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Joshua Tubbs
 

Replying in the wrong thread? I started this thread.

On 11/8/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
You are replying in the wrong thread. I don’t know why you are having the
problem and you said you tried more than one browser. Chrome updates
automatically.

Of course strange things happen, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem. You
could try another screen-reader just to see if you get different results.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Joshua Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
can't interact with

I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
i'm on the latest version.
I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
change something in NVDA?

On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
uninstalling it.
\


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Joshua
Tubbs
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA
can't interact with

I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.

On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
there so many “skip navigation links”?

******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!


From: Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
NVDA can't interact with

Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
me.
It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
it’s related to JavaScript.

I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
understand what’s going on.

Sile
On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmm. Were you using Chrome?

I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.



On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I just looked at the site with JAVA script on. I followed one of
the links and it opened another page as a standard link does. I see
that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
to me. In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
that says skip navigation links. You really only need one but since
someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.

I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
information, we can see them. But just going to the site and
looking around doesn't show me any.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Hi all,

I just visited the following website:

http://canadianxpress.ca/

I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end
of
the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
each time I've encountered issues.
On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
whether
via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
links
to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites
where
to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation
and
route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
will be present. Not with this one, however...

Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
Gene
 

I thought it was the wrong thread but it is the right one.  I don't look at subject lines much in part because so many of them are irrelevant.
 
There are two Opera messages in the thread.  I thought you had replied in an opera thread, since the opera messages are immediately below the message I replied to.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2019 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA can't interact with

Replying in the wrong thread? I started this thread.


On 11/8/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You are replying in the wrong thread.  I don’t know why you are having the
> problem and you said you tried more than one browser.  Chrome updates
> automatically.
>
> Of course strange things happen, but I doubt this is an NVDA problem.  You
> could try another screen-reader just to see if you get different results.
>
> Gene
> -----  Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Tubbs
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:59 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that NVDA
> can't interact with
>
> I don't understand how for you guys those links are working fine, as
> regular links, and when you press enter on them they work as expected.
> Does Chrome update automatically like Firefox does? I never know if
> i'm on the latest version.
> I just downloaded Opera though and I get the same result. Do I need to
> change something in NVDA?
>
> On 11/8/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
>> I'm trying opera but I can't change my home page. I might end up
>> uninstalling it.
>> \
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Joshua
>> Tubbs
>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:46 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
>> NVDA
>> can't interact with
>>
>> I'm not sure. I'll try Opera.
>>
>> On 11/8/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
>>> I just tested it with Opera web browser and it works fine. Why are
>>> there so many “skip navigation links”?
>>>
>>> ******
>>> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
>>> you!
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Sile via Groups.Io
>>> Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 1:17 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Links on websites with submenus and/or links that
>>> NVDA can't interact with
>>>
>>> Hello, would anybody be willing to have a look at a webpage off-line for
>>> me.
>>> It’s having similar issues with drop-down boxes, but I don’t think
>>> it’s related to JavaScript.
>>>
>>> I’ve never seen this particular behavior before, so I just want to
>>> understand what’s going on.
>>>
>>> Sile
>>>> On Nov 7, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Joshua Tubbs <orin8722@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hmm. Were you using Chrome?
>>>>
>>>> I'll have to double check to see if JavaScript is on in Chrome.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>>> I just looked at the site with JAVA script on.  I followed one of
>>>>> the links and it opened another page as a standard link does.  I see
>>>>> that the site has a login place, and you didn't say if you did so.
>>>>> I didn't look enough to see if features are available if you log in
>>>>> that aren't otherwise, but the entire home page appears accessible
>>>>> to me.  In addition, between each of the navigation links is a link
>>>>> that says skip navigation links.  You really only need one but since
>>>>> someone put a skip link after every navigation link, that strongly
>>>>> implies to me that the site was designed to be accessible, even if
>>>>> this or that accomodation may be overdoing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what accounts for your problems or if, given more
>>>>> information, we can see them.  But just going to the site and
>>>>> looking around doesn't show me any.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gene
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>>    Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>    I just visited the following website:
>>>>>
>>>>>    http://canadianxpress.ca/
>>>>>
>>>>>    I notice that when going there, there is a number sign at the end
>>>>> of
>>>>>    the address. There are multiple websites I've found like this, and
>>>>>    each time I've encountered issues.
>>>>>    On this particular site I believe the main links open up drop downs
>>>>>    with additional links underneath the main one. Is there a way,
>>>>> whether
>>>>>    via addons or other, to make this and other sites like this usable,
>>>>>    short of contacting the webmaster who may or may not change the
>>>>> links
>>>>>    to make them clickable? Jaws simply announces the links as mouse
>>>>>    overs, but has the same result as NVDA. I've come across sites
>>>>> where
>>>>>    to hover over content, you can simply activate object navigation
>>>>> and
>>>>>    route the mouse cursor to the link in question and more information
>>>>>    will be present. Not with this one, however...
>>>>>
>>>>>    Any help would be appreciated. Tried switching browsers as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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