Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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I would give it a try. When you install it, you have the option of having nvda always start when the computer starts or not. If you uncheck this, nvda won't run unless you send the command of ctrl, alt, and N keys. That will start it and it will speak. When you're done, just hit the NVDA key (numpad insert plus Q and it will ask if you want to quit nvda. just hit enter and it will be gone until you want to use it again.
Roger
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On 3/13/2017 1:34 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote: Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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Regarding your first message, any screen-reader can
be set to only run when you run it and you can unload it when finished.
But if your intention is to only read text, often just a small amount, then have
it not run, then run it again when you want to read more text and make such
changes frequently, any screen-reader may take an annoying amount of time to run
when you run it. You'll have to see how long NVDA takes when you run it
repeatedly. The first time you run it may take longer than subsequent
times so you can't judge by the first time. If you are using the installed
version, you can use these two commands without any further work. NVDA
key, which is either insert in the default desktop layout, and q while holding
the NVDA key, brings up the unload NVDA dialog. Press enter once it comes
up. To run NVDA, use the command control alt j. You can put NVDA to
sleep in the program you are using and quickly resume operation when desired but
as far as I know, that feature doesn't turn off the screen-reader except in that
one program. I'll discuss sleep more if you want to continue trying
NVDA. But the first question is whether any screen-reader is the best
choice. There may be programs that read selected text and those may serve
you better. There may be list members who know of such programs.
As far as voices are concerned, there are a lot of
voices available, some free voices, some you pay for. You can use demos of
paid voices and you can try free voices, of course, as unlimited free
programs.
You can read more about available voices
here:
Regarding your second message, please send it
again. As moderator, I know why it didn't reach the list and you won't
have that problem any longer. It isn't a problem with your message, it has
to do with how the list handles first messages and all your messages should now
reach the list almost immediately.
Briefly, the first message sent by a new member
must be approved. If a second message is sent before the first message is
approved, I just found out that it, too, must be approved. I didn't know
it and the second message was lost.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 1:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hello group, I have a cognitive impairment and can't read
large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue. I am
trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly
other programs. Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm
not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain. There
are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive
program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother
them. We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to
log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this
type of software all the time when I use the computer. I personally
just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out
loud a specific piece of text at any given time. Windows Narrator is
pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what
it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the
screen. I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I
don't want something too robotic sounding. So based on that I just
want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for
me?
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Hi NVDA can easily be configured to run on demand. It sounds like you have sufficient sight not to require speech guidance through the log-in process, although NVDA can do this if required. It can just sit as a Desktop Icon and uses associated hotkey sequences to switch it on/ off as required. NVDA comes with a speech synthesizercalled Espeak which is very responsive and has numerous voices to choose from. NVDA can also use high quality 3rd party speech synthesizers which you can purchase and there are a host of free synthetic voices, including those used by Narrator, which also work very well. -----
Cheers Chris Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Fantasy Sports Sent: 13 March 2017 06:35 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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It should be pointed out that the default fvoice
that comes with NVDA is one many users don't want to use. You can set NVDA
to use all or almost all of the Microsoft voices already on your machine or you
can try other voices, as I described in my previous message.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
I would give it a try. When you install it, you have the option
of having nvda always start when the computer starts or not. If you uncheck
this, nvda won't run unless you send the command of ctrl, alt, and N
keys. That will start it and it will speak. When you're done, just hit
the NVDA key (numpad insert plus Q and it will ask if you want to quit
nvda. just hit enter and it will be gone until you want to use it
again. Roger On 3/13/2017
1:34 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote: > Hello group, > > I have a
cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts > of text easily without
getting fatigue. > > I am trying to decide between using Windows
Narrator, NVDA, > JAWS, or possibly other programs. > >
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not > sure it is the
right program for me. Let me explain. > > There are several
people using this family computer, and I > don't want an intrusive program
that will take over Windows, > and run in the background and bother
them. > > We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to
have > to log on and off as different users. I myself don't
even > want to use this type of software all the time when I use >
the computer. > > I personally just want a program that I can turn
on and off > whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of
text > at any given time. > > Windows Narrator is pretty easy
to turn on and off, but its > extremely difficult to control what it reads
out loud, it > just starts spewing without end whatever is on the
screen. > > I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I
don't > want something too robotic sounding. > > So based on
that I just want to use this program in a limited > way, is NVDA right for
me? > > > > > > > > > > >
> >
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As a long time user of Window Eyes I have found that NVDA with the Access32 voice is very comparable to Window Eyes. With the uncertainty of Window Eyes being a long term product, I would highly recommend NVDA.
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On 3/13/2017 10:47 AM, Gene wrote: It should be pointed out that the default fvoice that comes with NVDA is one many users don't want to use. You can set NVDA to use all or almost all of the Microsoft voices already on your machine or you can try other voices, as I described in my previous message.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Roger Stewart <mailto:paganus2@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 10:41 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
I would give it a try. When you install it, you have the option of having nvda always start when the computer starts or not. If you uncheck this, nvda won't run unless you send the command of ctrl, alt, and N keys. That will start it and it will speak. When you're done, just hit the NVDA key (numpad insert plus Q and it will ask if you want to quit nvda. just hit enter and it will be gone until you want to use it again.
Roger
On 3/13/2017 1:34 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well difficult to say really. I suppose some kind of configuring could shut it up a bit more when not needed, but to be honest, if you want human sounding voices although there are some good ones it will take a time to get things as you like them no matter what you need. If money is no object there are other solutions that are not as verbose. Look at Dolphins supernova ranges, or some of the magnifiers you can get that have some added speech. The whole idea of a full screenreader is to speak choices, options and documents etc, and the amount of configurability you want is going to only be known to yourself. the voice it comes with is pretty unbearable, but ther are variants in the program which are better.
Lots of synths out there to try out as well. Its reallyy an unnswerable question. dolphin and others do do demo downloads of their software so I'd suggest trying anything that takes your fancy.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Fantasy Sports" <fantasylife@earthlink.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 6:34 AM Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me? Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
Depending on what you want read, and how much trouble it is for you, you could use my clipboard reading program at: http://www.softcon.com/files/clipspeak.exeYou simply run it, and it will read anything that has been copied to the clipboard, then it exits. No fuss, no mess. It's not designed to do anything else, so if you're not up to copying text to the clipboard all the time, then it won't work for your purposes, but if that's all you need, it works quite well. hth.
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On 3/13/2017 2:34 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote: Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
I've not heard of Windows Eyes, but I have Windows Narrator.
The problem with Narrator is it just never stops talking, and you can't control what it reads.
For instance, I copied and pasted your email into Narrator, and and first it doesn't read it, but later it just reads it over and over without stopping :)
If anyone can explain Narrator to me, that might suffice for my needs, if I could ever get it to work efficiently.
If not, I will probably give NVDA a try a pay for the voice.
Thank you everyone who has responded to my messages.
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-----Original Message----- From: Don H <lmddh50@comcast.net> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 11:04 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
As a long time user of Window Eyes I have found that NVDA with the Access32 voice is very comparable to Window Eyes. With the uncertainty of Window Eyes being a long term product, I would highly recommend NVDA.
On 3/13/2017 10:47 AM, Gene wrote:
It should be pointed out that the default fvoice that comes with NVDA is one many users don't want to use. You can set NVDA to use all or almost all of the Microsoft voices already on your machine or you can try other voices, as I described in my previous message.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Roger Stewart <mailto:paganus2@gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, March 13, 2017 10:41 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
I would give it a try. When you install it, you have the option of having nvda always start when the computer starts or not. If you uncheck this, nvda won't run unless you send the command of ctrl, alt, and N keys. That will start it and it will speak. When you're done, just hit the NVDA key (numpad insert plus Q and it will ask if you want to quit nvda. just hit enter and it will be gone until you want to use it again.
Roger
On 3/13/2017 1:34 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
thanks for that, sounds interesting. That is sort of how I'm using Narrator at the moment, although its a bit random what it chooses to read.
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-----Original Message----- From: Travis Siegel <tsiegel@softcon.com> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 1:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Depending on what you want read, and how much trouble it is for you, you could use my clipboard reading program at:
http://www.softcon.com/files/clipspeak.exe
You simply run it, and it will read anything that has been copied to the clipboard, then it exits. No fuss, no mess.
It's not designed to do anything else, so if you're not up to copying text to the clipboard all the time, then it won't work for your purposes, but if that's all you need, it works quite well.
hth.
On 3/13/2017 2:34 AM, Fantasy Sports wrote:
Hello group,
I have a cognitive impairment and can't read large amounts of text easily without getting fatigue.
I am trying to decide between using Windows Narrator, NVDA, JAWS, or possibly other programs.
Although NVDA is free and is supposed to be good, I'm not sure it is the right program for me. Let me explain.
There are several people using this family computer, and I don't want an intrusive program that will take over Windows, and run in the background and bother them.
We all use the same log in, and I don't want people to have to log on and off as different users. I myself don't even want to use this type of software all the time when I use the computer.
I personally just want a program that I can turn on and off whenever I want to read out loud a specific piece of text at any given time.
Windows Narrator is pretty easy to turn on and off, but its extremely difficult to control what it reads out loud, it just starts spewing without end whatever is on the screen.
I also don't know how the voice sounds in NVDA, but I don't want something too robotic sounding.
So based on that I just want to use this program in a limited way, is NVDA right for me?
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Pranav Lal
Hi,
I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
Pranav
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Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
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-----Original Message----- From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hi,
I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
Pranav
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If you have Microsoft Office 2010 or later, you can get Window Eyes for free. At 02:27 PM 3/14/2017, you wrote: Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
-----Original Message-----
From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com> Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hi,
I have not seen all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to go.
Pranav
John
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Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA. I don't
know just what Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't know if it's
any better or not. Narrator may be simpler but that doesn't mean it will
meet your needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet your needs
or not. I'm saying that I don't think you are looking at options in the
right order. I would think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet
forums where people who have dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss
programs they use to read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read
whatever you want to read.
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into
screen-readers after you try to get information about other means. I'm
saying that I think you are looking at options in the wrong order.
Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't necessarily do things that
you want done or in the way you want them done.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need
to navigate the computer. I think the answers have pretty much covered
it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler then
NVDA. Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator or
learn more about Windows Eyes. Thanks for the help! -----Original
Message----- >From: Pranav Lal < pranav.lal@...> >Sent: Mar
13, 2017 7:21 PM >To: nvda@nvda.groups.io>Subject: Re:
[nvda] Is NVDA right for me? > >Hi, > >I have not seen
all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered.
In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading
long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you
need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to
go. > >Pranav > > > >
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Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
Yes, I agree with you. Thank you everyone in this group for all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.
I will definitely look into these other options before coming back to screen readers as an option. I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages... Do you know how I would unsubscribe?
Peace.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA. I don't
know just what Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't know if it's
any better or not. Narrator may be simpler but that doesn't mean it will
meet your needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet your needs
or not. I'm saying that I don't think you are looking at options in the
right order. I would think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet
forums where people who have dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss
programs they use to read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read
whatever you want to read.
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into
screen-readers after you try to get information about other means. I'm
saying that I think you are looking at options in the wrong order.
Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't necessarily do things that
you want done or in the way you want them done.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need
to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered
it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler then
NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows Narrator or
learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
-----Original
Message----- >From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> >Sent: Mar
13, 2017 7:21 PM >To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >Subject: Re:
[nvda] Is NVDA right for me? > >Hi, > >I have not seen
all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been covered.
In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued when reading
long documents then a solution like text aloud may work better. If however, you
need to navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to
go. > >Pranav > > > >
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On 3/15/2017 1:35 PM, Fantasy Sports
wrote:
Yes, I agree with you. Thank you everyone in this group for
all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.
I will definitely look into these other options before
coming back to screen readers as an option.
I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that
time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages...
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?
Peace.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA. I don't know
just what Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't
know if it's any better or not. Narrator may be
simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet your
needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or Narrator will meet
your needs or not. I'm saying that I don't think you
are looking at options in the right order. I would
think that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet
forums where people who have dyslexia and other print
disabilities can discuss programs they use to read
print and they may be able to discuss how best to read
whatever you want to read.
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look into
screen-readers after you try to get information about
other means. I'm saying that I think you are looking
at options in the wrong order. Screen-readers are
intended for blind users and don't necessarily do
things that you want done or in the way you want them
done.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for
me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't
need to
navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it, right
now
leaning towards something that might be simpler then
NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows
Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread
therefore what I ask may have already been covered. In
what situation do you need to read text? If you are
fatigued when reading long documents then a solution
like text aloud may work better. If however, you need to
navigate the computer by using speech, then NVDA is the
way to go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>
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Георги Ламбов <obichamlegiona@...>
Hi!
In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group. There are people
with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will help
you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the
messages of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the
messages from this group. If you are also member of any other group,
you can do the same about the messages of the group you are. In this
way you will have more place for the letters you receive.
Cheers!
Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy
Sports написа:
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Yes, I agree with you. Thank you everyone
in this group for all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.
I will definitely look into these other options before
coming back to screen readers as an option.
I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that
time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages...
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?
Peace.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Window-eyes isn't
simpler than NVDA. I don't know just what
Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't
know if it's any better or not. Narrator may
be simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet
your needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or
Narrator will meet your needs or not. I'm
saying that I don't think you are looking at
options in the right order. I would think
that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet
forums where people who have dyslexia and
other print disabilities can discuss programs
they use to read print and they may be able to
discuss how best to read whatever you want to
read.
I'm not saying
that you won't decide to look into
screen-readers after you try to get
information about other means. I'm saying
that I think you are looking at options in the
wrong order. Screen-readers are intended for
blind users and don't necessarily do things
that you want done or in the way you want them
done.
Gene
----- Original Message
-----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right
for me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but
don't need to
navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it,
right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler
then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune
Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread
therefore what I ask may have already been
covered. In what situation do you need to read
text? If you are fatigued when reading long
documents then a solution like text aloud may work
better. If however, you need to navigate the
computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to
go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>
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Fantasy Sports <fantasylife@...>
Well if there are people here with good computer knowledge and experience, then the main question I would want to ask next is how to get Windows Narrator to work properly.
Is there anyone here who can help me get Windows Narrator to work efficiently, so that it reads outloud exactly what I want it to each time?
Right Now, it appears that Windows Narrator is like a wild horse that just runs around and does what it wants to, haha.
If anyone here can help with Narrator, I'd be very grateful.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
-----Original Message-----
From: Георги Ламбов
Sent: Mar 15, 2017 4:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Hi!
In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group. There are people
with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will help
you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the
messages of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the
messages from this group. If you are also member of any other group,
you can do the same about the messages of the group you are. In this
way you will have more place for the letters you receive.
Cheers!
Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy
Sports написа:
Yes, I agree with you. Thank you everyone
in this group for all your kind advice, it has helped me a lot.
I will definitely look into these other options before
coming back to screen readers as an option.
I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that
time, my mailbox can't handle too many messages...
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?
Peace.
-----Original
Message-----
From: Gene
Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Window-eyes isn't
simpler than NVDA. I don't know just what
Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't
know if it's any better or not. Narrator may
be simpler but that doesn't mean it will meet
your needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or
Narrator will meet your needs or not. I'm
saying that I don't think you are looking at
options in the right order. I would think
that there are e-mail lists and/or Internet
forums where people who have dyslexia and
other print disabilities can discuss programs
they use to read print and they may be able to
discuss how best to read whatever you want to
read.
I'm not saying
that you won't decide to look into
screen-readers after you try to get
information about other means. I'm saying
that I think you are looking at options in the
wrong order. Screen-readers are intended for
blind users and don't necessarily do things
that you want done or in the way you want them
done.
Gene
----- Original Message
-----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27
PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right
for me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but
don't need to
navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much covered it,
right now
leaning towards something that might be simpler
then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune
Windows Narrator
or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the help!
-----Original Message-----
>From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...>
>Sent: Mar 13, 2017 7:21 PM
>To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
>
>Hi,
>
>I have not seen all messages on this thread
therefore what I ask may have already been
covered. In what situation do you need to read
text? If you are fatigued when reading long
documents then a solution like text aloud may work
better. If however, you need to navigate the
computer by using speech, then NVDA is the way to
go.
>
>Pranav
>
>
>
>
|
|
Are you selecting text with a mouse? If
Narrator doesn't read it when you do so, I doubt there is such a setting.
Have you looked through the settings and is there anything related to what is
read such as read selected or highlighted? I don't recall what version of
Windows you are using and such a feature may have been added in Windows 8 or 10
but I doubt it.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Well
if there are people here with good computer knowledge and
experience, then the main question I would want to ask next
is how to get Windows Narrator to work properly.
Is there anyone here who can help me get Windows Narrator
to work efficiently, so that it reads outloud exactly what I want it
to
each time?
Right Now, it appears that Windows Narrator is like a wild horse
that just runs around and does what it wants to, haha.
If anyone here can help with Narrator, I'd be very grateful.
-----Original
Message----- From: Георги Ламбов Sent: Mar
15, 2017 4:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA
right for me?
Hi!
In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group.
There are people with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will
help you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the messages
of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the messages from this
group. If you are also member of any other group, you can do the same about
the messages of the group you are. In this way you will have more place for
the letters you receive. Cheers! Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy Sports
написа:
Yes,
I agree with you. Thank you everyone in this group for all your kind
advice, it has helped me a lot.
I will definitely look into these other options before coming back to
screen readers as an option.
I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that time, my mailbox
can't handle too many messages...
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?
Peace.
-----Original
Message----- From: Gene Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32
PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA. I
don't know just what Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't
know if it's any better or not. Narrator may be simpler but that
doesn't mean it will meet your needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or
Narrator will meet your needs or not. I'm saying that I don't think
you are looking at options in the right order. I would think that
there are e-mail lists and/or Internet forums where people who have
dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss programs they use to
read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read whatever you
want to read.
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look
into screen-readers after you try to get information about other
means. I'm saying that I think you are looking at options in the
wrong order. Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't
necessarily do things that you want done or in the way you want them
done.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need
to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much
covered it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler
then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows
Narrator or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the
help!
-----Original Message----- >From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> >Sent: Mar 13,
2017 7:21 PM >To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >Subject: Re: [nvda]
Is NVDA right for me? > >Hi, > >I have not seen
all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been
covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued
when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work
better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech,
then NVDA is the way to
go. > >Pranav > > > >
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|
See this article:
Narrator can be made to read selected text to an
extent but it may not do what you want.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Are you selecting text with a mouse? If
Narrator doesn't read it when you do so, I doubt there is such a setting.
Have you looked through the settings and is there anything related to what is
read such as read selected or highlighted? I don't recall what version of
Windows you are using and such a feature may have been added in Windows 8 or 10
but I doubt it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Well
if there are people here with good computer knowledge and
experience, then the main question I would want to ask next
is how to get Windows Narrator to work properly.
Is there anyone here who can help me get Windows Narrator
to work efficiently, so that it reads outloud exactly what I want it
to
each time?
Right Now, it appears that Windows Narrator is like a wild horse
that just runs around and does what it wants to, haha.
If anyone here can help with Narrator, I'd be very grateful.
-----Original
Message----- From: Георги Ламбов Sent: Mar
15, 2017 4:26 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA
right for me?
Hi!
In my opinion you mustn't unSubscribe this group.
There are people with good computer's knowledge and experience here, who will
help you further. And about the messages you can make filters for the messages
of NvdA-mailinglist and this filter will be only for the messages from this
group. If you are also member of any other group, you can do the same about
the messages of the group you are. In this way you will have more place for
the letters you receive. Cheers! Georgi
На 15.3.2017 г. в 22:35 ч., Fantasy Sports
написа:
Yes,
I agree with you. Thank you everyone in this group for all your kind
advice, it has helped me a lot.
I will definitely look into these other options before coming back to
screen readers as an option.
I should probably unsubscribe to this group until that time, my mailbox
can't handle too many messages...
Do you know how I would unsubscribe?
Peace.
-----Original
Message----- From: Gene Sent: Mar 14, 2017 2:32
PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Window-eyes isn't simpler than NVDA. I
don't know just what Narrator can do. for your purposes, I don't
know if it's any better or not. Narrator may be simpler but that
doesn't mean it will meet your needs. I'm not saying that NVDA or
Narrator will meet your needs or not. I'm saying that I don't think
you are looking at options in the right order. I would think that
there are e-mail lists and/or Internet forums where people who have
dyslexia and other print disabilities can discuss programs they use to
read print and they may be able to discuss how best to read whatever you
want to read.
I'm not saying that you won't decide to look
into screen-readers after you try to get information about other
means. I'm saying that I think you are looking at options in the
wrong order. Screen-readers are intended for blind users and don't
necessarily do things that you want done or in the way you want them
done.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA right for me?
Cannot read much text without getting ill, but don't need
to navigate the computer.
I think the answers have pretty much
covered it, right now leaning towards something that might be simpler
then NVDA.
Might need to learn how to really fine tune Windows
Narrator or learn more about Windows Eyes.
Thanks for the
help!
-----Original Message----- >From: Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@...> >Sent: Mar 13,
2017 7:21 PM >To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >Subject: Re: [nvda]
Is NVDA right for me? > >Hi, > >I have not seen
all messages on this thread therefore what I ask may have already been
covered. In what situation do you need to read text? If you are fatigued
when reading long documents then a solution like text aloud may work
better. If however, you need to navigate the computer by using speech,
then NVDA is the way to
go. > >Pranav > > > >
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