NVDA sluggish in task manager and resource monitor
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Felix G.
Hello, on several Win 10 machines I find that NVDA gets very sluggish when task manager or resource monitor has focus. At first I thought it was because the machines were slow anyway at that time, which is why I used these tools in the first place, but I tested again in good times, that is, while everything else was running smoothly, and I consistently get the same sluggish behavior across multiple machines.Any ideas/workarounds, anyone? Thank you very much in advance.
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Andre Fisher
File a ticket on github. Also, give specific setup and usage situations.
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On 4/23/17, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
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Christo de Klerk
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I can confirm Felix's issue. I also find Task Manager so sluggish with NVDA that I first close NVDA and fire up Narrator when it is necessary to use Task Manager. The same behaviour is true also in the activation dialogue in DBT (Duxbury). Kind regards Christo
On 2017/04/23 11:02 AM, Felix G. wrote:
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Felix G.
Hello, thanks for the suggestion, I'm considering filing a ticket at some point. It's just that my usual approach is to first enter informal discussion to gather some data points before I officially cry bug.Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> schrieb am So., 23. Apr. 2017 um 11:33 Uhr:
File a ticket on github. Also, give specific setup and usage situations.
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I sometimes think this tends to happen on laptops due to their slower cpus to save power when things get busy. the UIA interface seems slow on many machines and we have no way to know if narrator is actually doing something internal to get around this problem. Often making idle rates on processors to be less slow can speed things up a lot. Task manager etc, do refresh quite often and one supposes anyting monitoring resources will also.
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From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 10:02 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA sluggish in task manager and resource monitor Hello,
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Jacob Kruger
If I hit ctrl+shift+escape right now on my win10 64 bit creators version, running current NVDA next snapshot, it works fine in the task manager, is just as responsive as anywhere else, etc. etc.
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Only issue have always had with windows 10 task manager is trying to switch between what would have rendered as pages under windows 7 - tasks/applications, processes, startup, etc., but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-23 11:34, Christo de Klerk wrote:
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Chris
You could try if not already done so the same voice as you do in narrator see if that is the issue
From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: 23 April 2017 12:58 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sluggish in task manager and resource monitor
If I hit ctrl+shift+escape right now on my win10 64 bit creators version, running current NVDA next snapshot, it works fine in the task manager, is just as responsive as anywhere else, etc. etc.
Only issue have always had with windows 10 task manager is trying to switch between what would have rendered as pages under windows 7 - tasks/applications, processes, startup, etc., but anyway.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-23 11:34, Christo de Klerk wrote: > Hello > > I can confirm Felix's issue. I also find Task Manager so sluggish with > NVDA that I first close NVDA and fire up Narrator when it is necessary > to use Task Manager. > > The same behaviour is true also in the activation dialogue in DBT > (Duxbury). > > Kind regards > > Christo > > > On 2017/04/23 11:02 AM, Felix G. wrote: >> Hello, >> on several Win 10 machines I find that NVDA gets very sluggish when task >> manager or resource monitor has focus. At first I thought it was because >> the machines were slow anyway at that time, which is why I used these >> tools >> in the first place, but I tested again in good times, that is, while >> everything else was running smoothly, and I consistently get the same >> sluggish behavior across multiple machines. >> I also tested with Narrator and found it very responsive. So NVDA >> definitely has some causal involvement here. >> Any ideas/workarounds, anyone? Thank you very much in advance. >> Kind regards, >> Felix >> > > > > > >
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Jacob Kruger
For interest's sake, or if it makes any difference, if I switch over to a microsoft voice, under NVDA using the SAPI 5 synthesizer, then it's always somewhat sluggish/laggy, in both task manager, or even if just moving line to line in a text file in notepad, but, my primary synth/TTS engine is eSpeak NG, and, that's one of the most responsive TTS engines - seems that way to me, and, partly why it's always my primary screen reader of choice with NVDA.
But, task manager doesn't seem to be offering any more
sluggishness than other interfaces on my side - and, if means
much, this is on a lenovo w52 laptop, running windows 10 pro 64
bit.
stay well
Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2017-04-23 16:00, Chris wrote:
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Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
I don't use duxbury, but I don't have the described behavior with task manager. I'm using windows 8.1, and task manager is not slow at all, no matter which screen reader I use, NVDA, narrator, or jaws. (don't have window-eyes) Perhaps it's a windows 10 thing? or perhaps your version of task manager is flawed, though over multiple computers, this is highly unlikely. All I can tell you, is that this isn't a universal problem, so ....
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, Christo de Klerk wrote:
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Sapi voices are in fact far worse for sluggishness generally.
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I also do not see sluggishness in windows 7, and as has been said before I cannot at present do w10 test as the machine blew up and I'm ttoo chepskate to get it replaced just now. I did used to find though that the power saving throttling back routines for the processor in 10, seemed to have much more impact on nvda than in most earlier windows versions. As I said before, maybe its the constant updating coupled with the throttling that nvda does not like. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Chris" <chrismedley@btinternet.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2017 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sluggish in task manager and resource monitor You could try if not already done so the same voice as you do in narrator see if that is the issue From: Jacob Kruger Sent: 23 April 2017 12:58 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sluggish in task manager and resource monitor If I hit ctrl+shift+escape right now on my win10 64 bit creators version, running current NVDA next snapshot, it works fine in the task manager, is just as responsive as anywhere else, etc. etc. Only issue have always had with windows 10 task manager is trying to switch between what would have rendered as pages under windows 7 - tasks/applications, processes, startup, etc., but anyway. Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..." On 2017-04-23 11:34, Christo de Klerk wrote: Hello
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Yes nvda and task manager of late is really slow to get started nvda simi crashes with it but if I doodle with it a little it then works.
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On 23/04/2017 9:34 p.m., Christo de Klerk wrote:
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Jacob Kruger
If that might be relevant, one of the first bits of windows configuration I generally do is turn off any form of battery saving/power management - I will let screen turn off after 20 minutes of inactivity, but, every other power management/saving feature gets disabled, but anyway.
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Stay well Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2017-04-24 10:57, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Sapi voices are in fact far worse for sluggishness generally.
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