May I ask what version of MS-Word you're using as well as what version of Windows?

I'm presuming NVDA 2017.1, but if that's incorrect it would be helpful to know what version you are using.
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Actually, I've found some things that I do consider "significant variation" once you get to Office 2013 and beyond, and I'm on Office 2010.

If any one of these templates is of a "non-private" nature I'd rather have a go at using it to see if there is something quirky about the template itself, as I don't frequently work with tables with my clients who are screen reader users.  I'm happy to do so, though, so that I can speak directly to at least one of the forms/templates you're dealing with.

I believe my actual e-mail address comes through with these messages, but I'm not certain of that.  If not you can snag it on http://britechguy.com and shoot me a copy if you wish to have me pursue this further.
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       When I land in the first cell of the table I can navigate the table in NVDA using CTRL+ALT+Arrow Key of Direction I Wish to Go.  I remain constrained within the table if I try to use that key sequence in a direction that would take me out of it.  I can't remember the precise announcement, but it's quite clear that you're either at the first/last column/row of the table and you need to choose another direction.

        I have no trouble typing in any of the cells I land in.  If you have a table that's pre-formatted with either column headings and/or row headings you'll likely want to use the Set Column Headers and/or Set Row Headers command (see the section on Microsoft Word in the Commands Quick Reference), but perhaps not.  It depends on how well you know the structure of the table in question and how confident you are about knowing exactly where you are inside it.
 
        There is also an Add-On written by Joseph Lee, Easy Table Navigator, that allows you to create a "table layer" situation within NVDA such that when you invoke it you can simply use the arrow keys themselves to move within a table when that feature is on.   I just e-mailed Joseph about this add-on because the toggle that you use to change states is not defined by the add-on itself, but must be defined by the user.  He says you do this after you install the add-on by going to NVDA Menu, Preferences, Input Gestures.

          I asked for a copy of the template because I cannot imagine precisely why you'd be tossed out of a table when you attempt to type in a cell if you're in focus mode when you begin to do so.  If you're in browse mode heaven knows what might happen depending on what key you're pressing as part of the word you've started to type.

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hi,

That is absolutely briliant. Those key commands constrain me within the
table, and allow me to move around within it. To enter data into a
column, do I just activate browse mode and start typing? I would
previously activate browse mode, and arrow through the table until I
found the spot and start typing. That was a really bad idea.


On 5/17/2017 9:10 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

When I land in the first cell of the table I can navigate the
table in NVDA using CTRL+ALT+Arrow Key of Direction I Wish to Go. I
remain constrained within the table if I try to use that key sequence
in a direction that would take me out of it. I can't remember the
precise announcement, but it's quite clear that you're either at the
first/last column/row of the table and you need to choose another
direction.

I have no trouble typing in any of the cells I land in. If
you have a table that's pre-formatted with either column headings
and/or row headings you'll likely want to use the Set Column Headers
and/or Set Row Headers command (see the section on Microsoft Word in
the Commands Quick Reference), but perhaps not. It depends on how
well you know the structure of the table in question and how confident
you are about knowing exactly where you are inside it.

There is also an Add-On written by Joseph Lee, Easy Table
Navigator
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/easyTableNavigator.en.html>,
that allows you to create a "table layer" situation within NVDA such
that when you invoke it you can simply use the arrow keys themselves
to move within a table when that feature is on. I just e-mailed
Joseph about this add-on because the toggle that you use to change
states is not defined by the add-on itself, but must be defined by the
user. He says you do this after you install the add-on by going to
NVDA Menu, Preferences, Input Gestures.

I asked for a copy of the template because I cannot imagine
precisely why you'd be tossed out of a table when you attempt to type
in a cell if you're in focus mode when you begin to do so. If you're
in browse mode heaven knows what might happen depending on what key
you're pressing as part of the word you've started to type.

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On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:32 am, enes sarıbaş wrote:

To enter data into a column, do I just activate browse mode and start typing? I would previously activate browse mode, and arrow through the table until I found the spot and start typing. That was a really bad idea.

 Enes,

          Although I have to believe a typo is at play here.  When you're trying to navigate through the table to see what's already there you would be in browse mode  and the cell content would be read to you.  When you want to change it you need to be in focus mode to allow typing of data into the cell, selection of pre-existing data for replacement, etc., using the usual selection commands as appropriate (other than CTRL+A, which will always get you the whole darned document, or at least that's what it does in Office 2010).
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Enes,

         I just wanted to check in to see if the commands I suggested are actually working for you in practice.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

Enes,

           Yes, but I was sticking with NVDA terminology.  Browse versus focus modes.   JAWS uses Browse versus Forms modes.  Focus/Forms mode is where you can do data entry and/or editing in the cell/edit box/other object that accepts text input that you find yourself in.
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Hi

Not sure if this will work in word but know it works in excel.  What is written is from Quenton.

below is the message.

There isn't a direct command, but a workaround is:
1. Press SHIFT+SPACEBAR to select the row
2. Press control+c to copy it to the clipboard
3. Press NVDA+c to read the clipboard
This will read the whole row as one block of text.  Note that it will overwrite anything you already had on the clipboard.  It also reads the values of cells, not formulas.  If you want formulas read, press control+` (control+grav) to toggle between showing values and formulas before copying the row.
Similarly, if you want to read the column, press control+spacebar instead of shift+spacebar at step 1.

Gene nz

Is there a way to read the entire row, or column with NVDA?

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Enes,

           Yes, but I was sticking with NVDA terminology.  Browse versus focus modes.   JAWS uses Browse versus Forms modes.  Focus/Forms mode is where you can do data entry and/or editing in the cell/edit box/other object that accepts text input that you find yourself in.
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Hi

the answer is no.

The NVDA key + the letter S toggles between speech mode off, speech mode beep and speech mode talk.

Not sure if there is a ticket for it but the work around will do the same.

gene nz

If you select a row, or column, could you use NVDA + S to read the selection?  

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 5:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Hi

 

Not sure if this will work in word but know it works in excel.  What is written is from Quenton.

 

below is the message.

 

There isn't a direct command, but a workaround is:
1. Press SHIFT+SPACEBAR to select the row
2. Press control+c to copy it to the clipboard
3. Press NVDA+c to read the clipboard
This will read the whole row as one block of text.  Note that it will overwrite anything you already had on the clipboard.  It also reads the values of cells, not formulas.  If you want formulas read, press control+` (control+grav) to toggle between showing values and formulas before copying the row.
Similarly, if you want to read the column, press control+spacebar instead of shift+spacebar at step 1.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 19/05/2017 9:42 PM, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:

Is there a way to read the entire row, or column with NVDA?

 

73 N2DYN Angelo

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 5:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] working with tables in microsoft word

 

Enes,

           Yes, but I was sticking with NVDA terminology.  Browse versus focus modes.   JAWS uses Browse versus Forms modes.  Focus/Forms mode is where you can do data entry and/or editing in the cell/edit box/other object that accepts text input that you find yourself in.
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