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Hello All,
I know that most folks participate by e-mail, but there are some features related to how your individual messages or digests are delivered to you that cannot be controlled by the e-mail interface but where you must log in to your Groups.io account and go to your subscription page. If you have never logged in to the site and don’t have a password, please see the section on doing just that, which is toward the end of this message, first.
Using the Advanced Preferences for e-mail delivery gives you very precise control over which messages will make it to your inbox and can allow you to significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from a high-traffic group while allowing you to decide what's important enough to keep an eye on.
Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription
Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage, http://groups.io, you will need to navigate to the Log in (two words) button and activate it. Once you’ve entered your username, which is the e-mail address you’ve used to subscribe to the group(s) you routinely read, and password, then hit the Log in button beneath them you will be taken to the “Your Groups” page.
1. Do a screen reader find for “Your Groups” which takes you to the “Your Groups” dropdown button and activate it. Arrow down through the list of groups to select the one for which you wish to set up your advanced preferences. You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.
2. Do a screen reader find for “Subscription” link and activate it.
3. Just so you’re aware these are on this page, there is a radio button cluster for the regular delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
4. Do a screen reader find for “Advanced” which will take you to the Advanced Preferences link. Activate it.
5. There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:
a. Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you’ve chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with “Following Only,” “First Message Also.” If this checkbox is checked it serves as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
b. Replies. There is a checkbox, “Auto follow replies,” which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is generally only used if you have elected to use the “Following Only” feature for message selection.
c. Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you’re using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.
6. Find the “Save” button and activate it to save these settings.
As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the “Following Only” option combined with the “First message also” checkbox this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the “auto follow replies” option was checked.
Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website
If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website. To get one:
1. In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page: https://groups.io/login
2. Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.
3. A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open. Enter your e-mail address in it.
4. Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.
5. Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you set your password. This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do. You are, at this stage, actually logged in.
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Howdy Brian,
Thanks for these tips, man you've just help me cut down on quite of bit of mail.
Tony
On 5/24/2017 11:46 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
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Hello All,
I know that most folks participate by e-mail, but there are some features related to how your individual messages or digests are delivered to you that cannot be controlled by the e-mail interface but where you must log in to your Groups.io account and go to
your subscription page. If you have never logged in to the site and don’t have a password, please see the section on doing just that, which is toward the end of this message, first.
Using the Advanced Preferences for e-mail delivery gives you very precise control over which messages will make it to your inbox and can allow you to significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from a high-traffic group while allowing you to decide
what's important enough to keep an eye on.
Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription
Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage,
http://groups.io, you will need to navigate to the Log in (two words) button and activate it. Once you’ve entered your username, which is the e-mail address you’ve used to subscribe to the group(s) you
routinely read, and password, then hit the Log in button beneath them you will be taken to the “Your Groups” page.
1.
Do a screen reader find for “Your Groups” which takes you to the “Your Groups” dropdown button and activate it. Arrow down through the list of groups to select the one for which
you wish to set up your advanced preferences. You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.
2.
Do a screen reader find for “Subscription” link and activate it.
3.
Just so you’re aware these are on this page, there is a radio button cluster for the regular delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special
Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature
that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
4.
Do a screen reader find for “Advanced” which will take you to the Advanced Preferences link. Activate it.
5.
There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:
a.
Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format
you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you’ve chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with “Following Only,” “First Message Also.” If this checkbox is checked it serves
as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
b.
Replies. There is a checkbox, “Auto follow replies,” which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is
generally only used if you have elected to use the “Following Only” feature for message selection.
c.
Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be
delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you’re using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.
6.
Find the “Save” button and activate it to save these settings.
As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the “Following Only” option combined with the “First message also” checkbox
this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular
topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the “auto follow replies” option was checked.
Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website
If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website. To get one:
1.
In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page:
https://groups.io/login
2.
Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.
3.
A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open. Enter your e-mail address in it.
4.
Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.
5.
Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you
set your password. This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do. You are, at this stage, actually logged in.
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Of course in my personal view, the amount of non nvda conversations here is growing and it might be a better idea to set up a different list for comments rather than requests for help.
Or on the other hand set up one for requests for help and use this for comments.
The majority of people I know are not that happy playing with parameters ona web site interface. Of course one can filter locally, but that can be hit and miss of course.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Ballou" <cyberpro224@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:31 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Fine-Grained Control Over the Group Messages You Receive from Groups.io Howdy Brian,
Thanks for these tips, man you've just help me cut down on quite of bit of mail.
Tony
On 5/24/2017 11:46 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Hello All,
I know that most folks participate by e-mail, but there are some features related to how your individual messages or digests are delivered to you that cannot be controlled by the e-mail interface but where you must log in to your Groups.io account and go to your subscription page. If you have never logged in to the site and don’t have a password, please see the section on doing just that, which is toward the end of this message, first.
Using the Advanced Preferences for e-mail delivery gives you very precise control over which messages will make it to your inbox and can allow you to significantly decrease the amount of e-mail you receive from a high-traffic group while allowing you to decide what's important enough to keep an eye on.
Advanced Preferences for Your Group Subscription
Once you get to the main Groups.io webpage, http://groups.io<http://groups.io/>, you will need to navigate to the Log in (two words) button and activate it. Once you’ve entered your username, which is the e-mail address you’ve used to subscribe to the group(s) you routinely read, and password, then hit the Log in button beneath them you will be taken to the “Your Groups” page.
1. Do a screen reader find for “Your Groups” which takes you to the “Your Groups” dropdown button and activate it. Arrow down through the list of groups to select the one for which you wish to set up your advanced preferences. You will have to start back at this step for each group for which you wish to set up the advanced mail preferences.
2. Do a screen reader find for “Subscription” link and activate it.
3. Just so you’re aware these are on this page, there is a radio button cluster for the regular delivery options: All Messages, Full Featured Digest, Plain Digest, Daily Summary, Special Notices Only, No email. This is immediately followed by two checkboxes related to using a signature: Use signature for web posting and Use signature for e-mail posting. These are followed by the signature edit box, should you wish to set up a signature that goes on to all your messages if you check one of the previously mentioned checkboxes.
4. Do a screen reader find for “Advanced” which will take you to the Advanced Preferences link. Activate it.
5. There are three major sections to the advanced preferences:
a. Message Selection. There are two radio buttons: All Messages and Following Only. If the first is selected then every message sent to the group will be sent to you in the format you selected for e-mail delivery. If you select Following Only then the only messages you will receive are messages you’ve chosen to follow. There is a checkbox associated with “Following Only,” “First Message Also.” If this checkbox is checked it serves as a selective override such that the first message in any new topic is sent to you so that you can see it and elect to follow it with the link at the end of the message if you wish to keep monitoring this topic.
b. Replies. There is a checkbox, “Auto follow replies,” which will make any topic that you start yourself, or any topic in which you reply to a message, followed. This checkbox is generally only used if you have elected to use the “Following Only” feature for message selection.
c. Max Attachment Size (only for groups that allow attachments). This is followed by a dropdown box that allows you to choose from four different maximum sizes for attachments to be delivered to you via e-mail. The default is unlimited size. If you’re using an internet service with data caps you may wish to change this. If you choose the zero option it means that all attachments will be stripped before a message is sent to you.
6. Find the “Save” button and activate it to save these settings.
As you can see, if you choose a setup where you have elected to get messages with the “Following Only” option combined with the “First message also” checkbox this will greatly decrease the flow of e-mail you receive while allowing you to decide for each topic whether you wish to follow it to receive further messages or not. If you do nothing then you will not receive any additional messages for that particular topic unless you hit the link to follow it at the end of the message or reply to it, if the “auto follow replies” option was checked.
Getting a Password to Log in to the Groups.io Website
If you’ve subscribed via e-mail you have a Groups.io login id, your e-mail address, but you’ve never been assigned a password for the website. To get one:
1. In your web browser, go to the Groups.io main site login page: https://groups.io/login
2. Find the “Forgot your password?” link and activate it.
3. A page with a single edit box, e-mail address will open. Enter your e-mail address in it.
4. Navigate to the one and only button on the page, “Email Link to Log In,” and activate it.
5. Watch your e-mail, including your spam/junk box, for a message from Groups.io that will contain a link you need to activate that takes you to your Groups.io profile page where you set your password. This is the password you’ll use to log in to any Groups.io group webpage where you wish to do something, such as changing your preferences, that requires you to be logged in to do. You are, at this stage, actually logged in.
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Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.
~ Mark Twain
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On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:42 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Of course in my personal view, the amount of non nvda conversations here is growing and it might be a better idea to set up a different list for comments rather than requests for help.
The problem being that this never, ever works. Groups such as this one, even though they have a specific central subject, are social ecosystems. People get to know each other over time and want to make a comment on something "random" or ask a cohort of people they trust about something that's not the central topic of the group. There's absolutely nothing wrong with either of those things so long as they do not dominate the group.
Tools such as the ones I posted about have come into existence because it is impossible, not to mention impractical, to set up mailing lists that have some laser focused topic and have them thrive yet still allow those who want to filter out what they consider "junk" to do it easily.
The tools are there. You have to decide whether you want to use them or not. You will never distill any e-mailing list down to only what you think belongs on it unless you, for any you, are its one and only member.
As to whether or not someone is happy using a web interface for one-time configuration at this point in time, my only response is: Get over it. It's time to configure yourself to the world, as the world is not going to configure itself to you.
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People are not like that though. I encounter them every day. They just won't be bothered. I guess the answer really is that each person has to make a decision. I think saying get over it to an elderly person who has enough aggro in their lives already is at best unhelpful at worst, discriminatory. Tact is the thing of course, and sometimes one has to go in and do it for them, as the world and changes in it is just far too much for many people I find.
I have made a conscious decision I do not need Twitface and their ilk in my life. I'm sure there are positives to these systems, but one has to weigh up the pros and cons for you, and so it is with the mail lists.
You say it does not work, but I have found it can if one chooses the right parameters in the first place.
However I'm not going to fill this list up with this argument, I know enough about people to realise there are opinions about things from some of us which will never change, so why bother?
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Fine-Grained Control Over the Group Messages You Receive from Groups.io On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:42 am, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Of course in my personal view, the amount of non nvda conversations here
is growing and it might be a better idea to set up a different list for
comments rather than requests for help.
The problem being that this never, ever works. Groups such as this one, even though they have a specific central subject, are social ecosystems. People get to know each other over time and want to make a comment on something "random" or ask a cohort of people they trust about something that's not the central topic of the group. There's absolutely nothing wrong with either of those things so long as they do not dominate the group. Tools such as the ones I posted about have come into existence because it is impossible, not to mention impractical, to set up mailing lists that have some laser focused topic and have them thrive yet still allow those who want to filter out what they consider "junk" to do it easily. The tools are there. You have to decide whether you want to use them or not. You will never distill any e-mailing list down to only what you think belongs on it unless you, for any you, are its one and only member. As to whether or not someone is happy using a web interface for one-time configuration at this point in time, my only response is: Get over it. It's time to configure yourself to the world, as the world is not going to configure itself to you. -- Brian Version 1703, Build 15063.296, Home 64-bit * * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* * But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound truth.* * ~ * *Niels Bohr*
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Bumping this thread because I realize that I've never posted the direct link to the MS-Word format document that includes the refinements made by Timothy Wynn integrated into it.
Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io
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The mute feature gets a heavy workout from me.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fine-Grained Control Over the Group Messages You Receive from Groups.io Bumping this thread because I realize that I've never posted the direct link to the MS-Word format document that includes the refinements made by Timothy Wynn integrated into it. Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io
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I also use mute or I mute in mail mate. That will auto mute and i never have to see the messages again. It’s grate.
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The mute feature gets a heavy workout from me. From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fine-Grained Control Over the Group Messages You Receive from Groups.io Bumping this thread because I realize that I've never posted the direct link to the MS-Word format document that includes the refinements made by Timothy Wynn integrated into it. Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 02:26 PM, Cristóbal wrote:
The mute feature gets a heavy workout from me.
I'm actually surprised that more people don't use the "Following Only" feature in conjunction with the "First Message Also" and "Auto-Follow Replies" options. "Following Only" with "First Message Only" lets you see the introduction of each and every topic. If you don't hit the follow link the topic will effectively be automatically muted unless you have "Auto-Follow Replies" on and actually reply to it instead. It's the ultimate in strict control about what topics can continue to be "welcome visitors" in your inbox. --
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Looks like it's about time for my quarterly re-run of the following information: Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io
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