soft-voice and objPad comments


Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...>
 

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm certain its fine with the authors.


Gene
 

I haven't used ObjPad but I don't think your description is accurate.  The documentation appears to indicate that it allows moving through objects without respect to their position in the tree, if that is a proper way to put it, in other words, without respect to whether they are parent or child.  You evidently don't have to move into a child object to move through it.  But that is not the same as screen review and there are times when you see something in screen review you don't in object navigation.  the opposite is also true depending on how a program is designed. 
 
It is important not to provide misleading information when describing something. 
 
You may be enthusiastic about the add on because you don't like using object navigation as it is implemented in NVDA itself.  But my preference is to see how things are organized.  You are making it sound as though the add on somehow does more than object navigation in NVDA.  It appears to me that that isn't true.  It just does it differently. 
 
Others will, I hope, indicate whether my understanding is correct. 
 
Gene

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.





Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Where do you get the object pad add on?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

I haven't used ObjPad but I don't think your description is accurate.  The documentation appears to indicate that it allows moving through objects without respect to their position in the tree, if that is a proper way to put it, in other words, without respect to whether they are parent or child.  You evidently don't have to move into a child object to move through it.  But that is not the same as screen review and there are times when you see something in screen review you don't in object navigation.  the opposite is also true depending on how a program is designed. 

 

It is important not to provide misleading information when describing something. 

 

You may be enthusiastic about the add on because you don't like using object navigation as it is implemented in NVDA itself.  But my preference is to see how things are organized.  You are making it sound as though the add on somehow does more than object navigation in NVDA.  It appears to me that that isn't true.  It just does it differently. 

 

Others will, I hope, indicate whether my understanding is correct. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:20 AM

Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.




Gene
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis L
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

Where do you get the object pad add on?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

I haven't used ObjPad but I don't think your description is accurate.  The documentation appears to indicate that it allows moving through objects without respect to their position in the tree, if that is a proper way to put it, in other words, without respect to whether they are parent or child.  You evidently don't have to move into a child object to move through it.  But that is not the same as screen review and there are times when you see something in screen review you don't in object navigation.  the opposite is also true depending on how a program is designed. 

 

It is important not to provide misleading information when describing something. 

 

You may be enthusiastic about the add on because you don't like using object navigation as it is implemented in NVDA itself.  But my preference is to see how things are organized.  You are making it sound as though the add on somehow does more than object navigation in NVDA.  It appears to me that that isn't true.  It just does it differently. 

 

Others will, I hope, indicate whether my understanding is correct. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:20 AM

Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

 

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.




 

can you do a tutorial on

how to use objPad?

On 5/30/2017 7:20 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm certain its fine with the authors.




Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

I agree this would be helpful.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of The Wolf
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 1:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

can you do a tutorial on

how to use objPad?

On 5/30/2017 7:20 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its
so awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws
touch cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I
really really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I
may have found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us
to use. For personal use only, not commercial use... It is called
soft-voice and it sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak.
I have one or two more things to check out with the soft-voice tts
makers but once I do and everything is go then I'll let all of you
know the final verdict on soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it
sounds a bit like eloquence but it only supports english and spanish
languages. and that it has a bunch of interesting novelty voices along
with the normal voices and its very small and fast and responsive. I
will not post it here though until I'm certain its fine with the authors.





Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi where do you get this objpad from?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.


Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Use the nvda key + letter N to get into the preferences of NVDA, then go
down to tools, a sub menu will appear, then go down to manage add ons
then press the enter key.


When you go into that section it will tell you what add ons you have
installed, but you will be looking for a button called get add ons then
press the enter key.

your browser will open to the place where the add ons are for the
project. Go down to the one that was mentioned you should be able to
jump down by headings then there will be a link to the page where it is.
Locate the add on there and either install it from there which i think
if i remember well can be done or download it to your computer then
install it from there.


There are tutorials on how to do it if you have not done it before.


the info for the add on can be found on the page on how to use it or if
you do it through the manage add ons section either help or the one
after it most of them now will take you up to that page when pressed on.


hope this helps.


Gene nz

On 31/05/2017 9:02 AM, Casey wrote:
Hi where do you get this objpad from?




-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments

Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.







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More or less I think. I'm not sure which I prefer, all obj pad does is 2ds a 3D view which if all you are after is to find a particularly awkward control is fine. I do not know enough about the Jaws cursor to know how much like it it is, but I seem to recall that can be a bit like swinging the mouse about a screen but with keys not a mouse.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments


I haven't used ObjPad but I don't think your description is accurate. The documentation appears to indicate that it allows moving through objects without respect to their position in the tree, if that is a proper way to put it, in other words, without respect to whether they are parent or child. You evidently don't have to move into a child object to move through it. But that is not the same as screen review and there are times when you see something in screen review you don't in object navigation. the opposite is also true depending on how a program is designed.

It is important not to provide misleading information when describing something.

You may be enthusiastic about the add on because you don't like using object navigation as it is implemented in NVDA itself. But my preference is to see how things are organized. You are making it sound as though the add on somehow does more than object navigation in NVDA. It appears to me that that isn't true. It just does it differently.

Others will, I hope, indicate whether my understanding is correct.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Josh Kennedy
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] soft-voice and objPad comments


Upon using objPad for a bit I can say that it is excellent at what it
does! I wanted a jaws-like-cursor for NVDA? I got one and in fact its so
awesome because it takes the old jaws cursor along with the jaws touch
cursor and rolls them into one yet its even easier to use! I really
really like objPad and will be telling everyone about it. And I may have
found another free synthesizer addon for NVDA for all of us to use. For
personal use only, not commercial use... It is called soft-voice and it
sounds similar to eloquence but better than eSpeak. I have one or two
more things to check out with the soft-voice tts makers but once I do
and everything is go then I'll let all of you know the final verdict on
soft-voice tts. I can tell you that it sounds a bit like eloquence but
it only supports english and spanish languages. and that it has a bunch
of interesting novelty voices along with the normal voices and its very
small and fast and responsive. I will not post it here though until I'm
certain its fine with the authors.