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NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down
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Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
I noticed that in the current version of NVDA, it now chokes up when I arrow down on a web page or a list of emails, for example. By that, I mean that it will actually go silent for a few seconds as I arrow down, as if it was trying to catch up with the flowing input. I never experienced this in prior versions. It used to be snappy and quick with the flow.
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kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...>
I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do
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with my own computer, but perhaps not. On 6/11/17, Rich De Steno <ironrock@...> wrote:
I noticed that in the current version of NVDA, it now chokes up when I |
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Joshua Hendrickson
I haven't noticed that at all. I can arrow through a list of emails
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and the down arrow key works as good as it ever did. On 6/11/17, Rich De Steno <ironrock@...> wrote:
I noticed that in the current version of NVDA, it now chokes up when I --
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Doug Parisian <eggmann@...>
Well, I blush a little since this is most likely one of those "me too" messages but judging by the number of messages, this is an issue of some concern and I know, by using the products, that the developers are looking for a cure.
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I have noticed a lack of response both on firefox and Internet explorer. The lack of speech usually occurs about the middle of a web page, especially when tabbing and arrowing around for examination purposes. BTW, I have everything most recent including all windows and NVDA updates which are available to us mainstream folks, and I am running the most recent versions of Explorer and Firefox. On 2017-06-11 5:46 PM, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
I haven't noticed that at all. I can arrow through a list of emails |
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Cearbhall O'Meadhra
I don't have that problem here on PC!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I haven't noticed that at all. I can arrow through a list of emails and the down arrow key works as good as it ever did. On 6/11/17, Rich De Steno <ironrock@...> wrote: I noticed that in the current version of NVDA, it now chokes up when I -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson |
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Brian's Mail list account
It still is here, but a problem seems to have been identified with a particular routine that can affect some machines and not others. Could this be due to absolute pixal addressing ofsome kind or something similar?
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From: "Rich De Steno" <ironrock@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:52 PM Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I noticed that in the current version of NVDA, it now chokes up when I arrow down on a web page or a list of emails, for example. By that, I mean that it will actually go silent for a few seconds as I arrow down, as if it was trying to catch up with the flowing input. I never experienced this in prior versions. It used to be snappy and quick with the flow. |
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Brian's Mail list account
As a matter of interest, do you have an AMd processor or an intel one? Is it on board graphics oor a card?
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do |
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Pascal Lambert
Hi Brian,
I have reported this choking problem a while ago. I have an Intel processor and using the latest Win10 and latest NVDA version. It chokes when arrowing down in Outlooks 2013, and Firefox. It does the same when I hit the Ctrl key to silence the voice. Some times I have to hit the Ctrl key several times to shut it off. I also experience many delays when entering Outlook and in Firefox when entering my home page which is Yahoo.com/finance. The choking and prolonged silence are less noticeable when using Chrome. I have given up on using IE 11 as the choking and silences are so bad making the browser useless. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down As a matter of interest, do you have an AMd processor or an intel one? Is it on board graphics oor a card? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do |
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Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
I get it on both Windows 10 and 7, and on both my desktop and laptop.
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Rich De Steno On 6/12/2017 9:23 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote:
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Tyler Wood
I get the same thing in firefox. I also get a ton of unknowns when arrowing through in chrome. Chrome needs a lot of work for me anyway as links aren’t clicked half the time. I have, to my own dismay, switched to jaws until this is fixed.
From: Rich De Steno
Sent: June 12, 2017 11:21 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down
I get it on both Windows 10 and 7, and on both my desktop and laptop.
Rich De Steno
On 6/12/2017 9:23 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote: > Hi Brian, > I have reported this choking problem a while ago. I have an Intel processor and using the latest Win10 and latest NVDA version. It chokes when arrowing down in Outlooks 2013, and Firefox. It does the same when I hit the Ctrl key to silence the voice. Some times I have to hit the Ctrl key several times to shut it off. I also experience many delays when entering Outlook and in Firefox when entering my home page which is Yahoo.com/finance. The choking and prolonged silence are less noticeable when using Chrome. I have given up on using IE 11 as the choking and silences are so bad making the browser useless. > Blessings > Pascal > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:18 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down > > As a matter of interest, do you have an AMd processor or an intel one? Is it on board graphics oor a card? > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal email to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:46 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down > > >> I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do >> with my own computer, but perhaps not. >> >> On 6/11/17, Rich De Steno <ironrock@...> wrote: >>> I noticed that in the current version of NVDA, it now chokes up when I >>> arrow down on a web page or a list of emails, for example. By that, I >>> mean that it will actually go silent for a few seconds as I arrow down, >>> as if it was trying to catch up with the flowing input. I never >>> experienced this in prior versions. It used to be snappy and quick with >>> the flow. >>> >>> -- >>> Rich De Steno >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > > > >
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Travis Siegel
Just for reference, I am not seeing this at all on my windows 8.1 desktop machine.
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On 6/12/2017 12:23 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:
I get it on both Windows 10 and 7, and on both my desktop and laptop. |
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Brian's Mail list account
Its most peculiar. I've had none of this here at all, so there has to be more to it than just nvda. Sonds like software or maybe hardware or a driver playing a part.
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I can recall many years ago, Dolphin had a very similar problem and they eventually traced it to an updated graphics driver, reverting to the old one fixed it. Something to do with the gaming system of graphics causing processor max out or some such. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down Hi Brian, I have reported this choking problem a while ago. I have an Intel processor and using the latest Win10 and latest NVDA version. It chokes when arrowing down in Outlooks 2013, and Firefox. It does the same when I hit the Ctrl key to silence the voice. Some times I have to hit the Ctrl key several times to shut it off. I also experience many delays when entering Outlook and in Firefox when entering my home page which is Yahoo.com/finance. The choking and prolonged silence are less noticeable when using Chrome. I have given up on using IE 11 as the choking and silences are so bad making the browser useless. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down As a matter of interest, do you have an AMd processor or an intel one? Is it on board graphics oor a card? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do |
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Brian's Mail list account
PS did you try the trial build mentioned some time back?
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl8tzlxb0vunb7w/nvda_snapshot_try-noGetPixel-14093%2Cad84027c.exe?dl=1 Its also on the nvaccess site but this is just my copy. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down Hi Brian, I have reported this choking problem a while ago. I have an Intel processor and using the latest Win10 and latest NVDA version. It chokes when arrowing down in Outlooks 2013, and Firefox. It does the same when I hit the Ctrl key to silence the voice. Some times I have to hit the Ctrl key several times to shut it off. I also experience many delays when entering Outlook and in Firefox when entering my home page which is Yahoo.com/finance. The choking and prolonged silence are less noticeable when using Chrome. I have given up on using IE 11 as the choking and silences are so bad making the browser useless. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down As a matter of interest, do you have an AMd processor or an intel one? Is it on board graphics oor a card? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do |
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Brian's Mail list account
They seem to fix one thing in Chrome and break others. I suspect when they test they do not actually use nvda.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Wood" <tcwood12@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I get the same thing in firefox. I also get a ton of unknowns when arrowing through in chrome. Chrome needs a lot of work for me anyway as links aren’t clicked half the time. I have, to my own dismay, switched to jaws until this is fixed. From: Rich De Steno Sent: June 12, 2017 11:21 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I get it on both Windows 10 and 7, and on both my desktop and laptop. Rich De Steno On 6/12/2017 9:23 AM, Pascal Lambert wrote: Hi Brian, |
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Brian's Mail list account
The only way i can sort of get a bit of choking is to delete all the search cache using ccleaner then very quickly attempt to get details of files in explorer in a big folder. The choking heere is the reindexing and the beeping of the progress bar. In facrt it makes the espeak break up but does not really slow things by very much, but it is an effect you can hear.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Travis Siegel" <tsiegel@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 6:34 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down Just for reference, I am not seeing this at all on my windows 8.1 desktop machine. |
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Pascal Lambert
No, I did not. Thanks.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:15 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down PS did you try the trial build mentioned some time back? https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl8tzlxb0vunb7w/nvda_snapshot_try-noGetPixel-14093%2Cad84027c.exe?dl=1 Its also on the nvaccess site but this is just my copy. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down Hi Brian, I have reported this choking problem a while ago. I have an Intel processor and using the latest Win10 and latest NVDA version. It chokes when arrowing down in Outlooks 2013, and Firefox. It does the same when I hit the Ctrl key to silence the voice. Some times I have to hit the Ctrl key several times to shut it off. I also experience many delays when entering Outlook and in Firefox when entering my home page which is Yahoo.com/finance. The choking and prolonged silence are less noticeable when using Chrome. I have given up on using IE 11 as the choking and silences are so bad making the browser useless. Blessings Pascal From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 4:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down As a matter of interest, do you have an AMd processor or an intel one? Is it on board graphics oor a card? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kelby carlson" <kelbycarlson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 11:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chokes Up When Arrowing Down I have had this experience as well. I thought it had something to do |
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Well one strength of nvda is also its weakness.
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Nvda focuses on using internal os libraries and standards to function. There are no third party dlls, or drivers or intercepts or any number of crappy middlemen and thats why nvda is good. At the same time if any of those libraries have bugs or other things do not work with them or they fail, nvda becomes useless. If jaws and other comercial products have anything to go for them, their major use of these layers protect them from a lot of issues with broken things. And for the most part this works. However performance is lower or can be and you may have to enter special modes to get things to work right. In nvda's case, most of what it uses is allready there. But if it isn't there and it doesn't have it in itself or a module then there can be trouble. One thing I can say though is that unless it really can't make sence of something it won't crash, and if it can't it probably just won't do whatever you want and go beep can't do this. I have found that your average layered screen reader can do a little more than nvda but give it something to hard for it, and it will try to do it anyway, even though it may not b be able to handle it. It will then crash, and depending on several factors either take itself, its settings or bits of your system with it. I have had some access software that did this. The system would crash because of something I couldn't do well it couldn't do, and it would go down, and take bits of windows with it. Windows wouldn't start and I would have to reformat to make windows start. I remember an old supernova sr which did this after testing some maps. Some stuff wouldn't work bits of things kept going, the system didn't start or run right. At first I thought the system had gone nuts but after reformatting the system about 10 times I found a pattern. I eventually tracked down the map and reported it. The issue was fixed but that was the end of my testing. And the intercepts before the direct, chain, mirror drivers and later on uia intercepts, well they were unstable. There were hacks to load 2 readers and that was fun, uninstall them wrong or run them both together and you lost the system. On 13/06/2017 8:19 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
They seem to fix one thing in Chrome and break others. I suspect when they test they do not actually use nvda. |
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