Another Outlook Issue
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Ralph Boersema
Dear Folks,
There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Hi,
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Shift+TAB problem: partly caused by the fact that Outlook uses some components of Microsoft Word when composing messages, and NVDA does detect when you press TAB and Shift+TAB in hopes of announcing margines. Looks like this is a bit aggressive then what users prefer, so I and/or Quentin will need to talk to NV Access about what can be done about this. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
They need to add auto reading of unread messages in a folder when going through your list of folders. I do control y Jaws and other screen readers will say NVDA 9 unread so should NVDA.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Hi,
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This, unfortunately, cannot be done easily. In order to do so, Outlook must be willing to expose this info to NVDA. One of the possible reasons why JAWS can do this is due to screen scraping capabilities, which NVDA somewhat implements, but the preferred approach from NV Access is accessing info through accessibility API's and others. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue They need to add auto reading of unread messages in a folder when going through your list of folders. I do control y Jaws and other screen readers will say NVDA 9 unread so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Ralph Boersema
Is there any other way to key through the headers?
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Ralph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Hi, Shift+TAB problem: partly caused by the fact that Outlook uses some components of Microsoft Word when composing messages, and NVDA does detect when you press TAB and Shift+TAB in hopes of announcing margines. Looks like this is a bit aggressive then what users prefer, so I and/or Quentin will need to talk to NV Access about what can be done about this. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Hi,
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Not that I know of. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:39 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Is there any other way to key through the headers? Ralph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:54 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Hi, Shift+TAB problem: partly caused by the fact that Outlook uses some components of Microsoft Word when composing messages, and NVDA does detect when you press TAB and Shift+TAB in hopes of announcing margines. Looks like this is a bit aggressive then what users prefer, so I and/or Quentin will need to talk to NV Access about what can be done about this. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
And window eyes also does this as well.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Hi, This, unfortunately, cannot be done easily. In order to do so, Outlook must be willing to expose this info to NVDA. One of the possible reasons why JAWS can do this is due to screen scraping capabilities, which NVDA somewhat implements, but the preferred approach from NV Access is accessing info through accessibility API's and others. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue They need to add auto reading of unread messages in a folder when going through your list of folders. I do control y Jaws and other screen readers will say NVDA 9 unread so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I've heard this in other software. its as if another app that might be running or another window which is open is momentarily getting focus then losing it again.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Ralph Boersema" <ralph@refmail.net> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:49 PM Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes I using Outlook express remember some of this discussion for this application a long time ago. It seems Microsoft have a history of not doing all they really should be in email software.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 1:15 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Hi, This, unfortunately, cannot be done easily. In order to do so, Outlook must be willing to expose this info to NVDA. One of the possible reasons why JAWS can do this is due to screen scraping capabilities, which NVDA somewhat implements, but the preferred approach from NV Access is accessing info through accessibility API's and others. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue They need to add auto reading of unread messages in a folder when going through your list of folders. I do control y Jaws and other screen readers will say NVDA 9 unread so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Gene
Window-eyes uses screen scraping more than NVDA, as
far as I know. However, one thing that hasn't been discussed is whether
this information can be seen by reviewing the screen in navigation or screen
review mode. If the information can be seen in this way, then it would
simply be a question of scripting that it be spoken automatically.
Meantime, it isn't clear to me
how accessible the status line is in the program. Similar information may
be in the status line. And finally, you may get the information
automatically spoken now or see it more easily by using the status line if you
don't use the control y dialog. I don't use Outlook but if it is designed
as it used to be, if you are in the message list, you could shift tab once and
be in the folders ttree view. You would up or down arrow to the folder you
want to work with and press enter. I don't know why the control y dialog
seems to be used a fair amount in this and other e-mail programs. I find
it much more convenient to simply shift tab once and then tab back to the
messages list.
Also, regarding the status line,
I just tested the go to folder, control y, dialog in the older version of
Windows Live Mail. When I am in that dialog, I can't see the status line
using NVDA key end. When I am in the folders treeview, I can see the
status line and I am told how many unread messages there are when I am on a
folder if I issue the read status line command. I don't know what will
happen in Outlook but when dealing with such a problem, accessing the item you
want should be tried in different ways if those ways are available. In a
dialog, you either aren't going to see the status line or it won't reflect what
you are doing in the dialog.
Gene
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:15 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Hi, This, unfortunately, cannot be done easily. In order to do so, Outlook must be willing to expose this info to NVDA. One of the possible reasons why JAWS can do this is due to screen scraping capabilities, which NVDA somewhat implements, but the preferred approach from NV Access is accessing info through accessibility API's and others. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis L Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue They need to add auto reading of unread messages in a folder when going through your list of folders. I do control y Jaws and other screen readers will say NVDA 9 unread so should NVDA. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 5:49 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
If I am actually in the NVDA folder and read the status line with control end it will read the number of unread messages in that folder.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 8:37 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue
Window-eyes uses screen scraping more than NVDA, as far as I know. However, one thing that hasn't been discussed is whether this information can be seen by reviewing the screen in navigation or screen review mode. If the information can be seen in this way, then it would simply be a question of scripting that it be spoken automatically.
Meantime, it isn't clear to me how accessible the status line is in the program. Similar information may be in the status line. And finally, you may get the information automatically spoken now or see it more easily by using the status line if you don't use the control y dialog. I don't use Outlook but if it is designed as it used to be, if you are in the message list, you could shift tab once and be in the folders ttree view. You would up or down arrow to the folder you want to work with and press enter. I don't know why the control y dialog seems to be used a fair amount in this and other e-mail programs. I find it much more convenient to simply shift tab once and then tab back to the messages list.
Also, regarding the status line, I just tested the go to folder, control y, dialog in the older version of Windows Live Mail. When I am in that dialog, I can't see the status line using NVDA key end. When I am in the folders treeview, I can see the status line and I am told how many unread messages there are when I am on a folder if I issue the read status line command. I don't know what will happen in Outlook but when dealing with such a problem, accessing the item you want should be tried in different ways if those ways are available. In a dialog, you either aren't going to see the status line or it won't reflect what you are doing in the dialog.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
And window eyes also does this as well.
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Gene
That's good.
Gene
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If I am actually in the NVDA folder and read the status line with control end it will read the number of unread messages in that folder.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Window-eyes uses screen scraping more than NVDA, as far as I know. However, one thing that hasn't been discussed is whether this information can be seen by reviewing the screen in navigation or screen review mode. If the information can be seen in this way, then it would simply be a question of scripting that it be spoken automatically.
Meantime, it isn't clear to me how accessible the status line is in the program. Similar information may be in the status line. And finally, you may get the information automatically spoken now or see it more easily by using the status line if you don't use the control y dialog. I don't use Outlook but if it is designed as it used to be, if you are in the message list, you could shift tab once and be in the folders ttree view. You would up or down arrow to the folder you want to work with and press enter. I don't know why the control y dialog seems to be used a fair amount in this and other e-mail programs. I find it much more convenient to simply shift tab once and then tab back to the messages list.
Also, regarding the status line, I just tested the go to folder, control y, dialog in the older version of Windows Live Mail. When I am in that dialog, I can't see the status line using NVDA key end. When I am in the folders treeview, I can see the status line and I am told how many unread messages there are when I am on a folder if I issue the read status line command. I don't know what will happen in Outlook but when dealing with such a problem, accessing the item you want should be tried in different ways if those ways are available. In a dialog, you either aren't going to see the status line or it won't reflect what you are doing in the dialog.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
And window eyes also does this as
well.
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
Does this mean it could be scripted?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:23 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue
That's good.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
If I am actually in the NVDA folder and read the status line with control end it will read the number of unread messages in that folder.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Window-eyes uses screen scraping more than NVDA, as far as I know. However, one thing that hasn't been discussed is whether this information can be seen by reviewing the screen in navigation or screen review mode. If the information can be seen in this way, then it would simply be a question of scripting that it be spoken automatically.
Meantime, it isn't clear to me how accessible the status line is in the program. Similar information may be in the status line. And finally, you may get the information automatically spoken now or see it more easily by using the status line if you don't use the control y dialog. I don't use Outlook but if it is designed as it used to be, if you are in the message list, you could shift tab once and be in the folders ttree view. You would up or down arrow to the folder you want to work with and press enter. I don't know why the control y dialog seems to be used a fair amount in this and other e-mail programs. I find it much more convenient to simply shift tab once and then tab back to the messages list.
Also, regarding the status line, I just tested the go to folder, control y, dialog in the older version of Windows Live Mail. When I am in that dialog, I can't see the status line using NVDA key end. When I am in the folders treeview, I can see the status line and I am told how many unread messages there are when I am on a folder if I issue the read status line command. I don't know what will happen in Outlook but when dealing with such a problem, accessing the item you want should be tried in different ways if those ways are available. In a dialog, you either aren't going to see the status line or it won't reflect what you are doing in the dialog.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
And window eyes also does this as well.
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Gene
I don't know if NVDA can see the information.
If it can, it can be scripted.
Gene
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Does this mean it could be scripted?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
That's good.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
If I am actually in the NVDA folder and read the status line with control end it will read the number of unread messages in that folder.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Window-eyes uses screen scraping more than NVDA, as far as I know. However, one thing that hasn't been discussed is whether this information can be seen by reviewing the screen in navigation or screen review mode. If the information can be seen in this way, then it would simply be a question of scripting that it be spoken automatically.
Meantime, it isn't clear to me how accessible the status line is in the program. Similar information may be in the status line. And finally, you may get the information automatically spoken now or see it more easily by using the status line if you don't use the control y dialog. I don't use Outlook but if it is designed as it used to be, if you are in the message list, you could shift tab once and be in the folders ttree view. You would up or down arrow to the folder you want to work with and press enter. I don't know why the control y dialog seems to be used a fair amount in this and other e-mail programs. I find it much more convenient to simply shift tab once and then tab back to the messages list.
Also, regarding the status line, I just tested the go to folder, control y, dialog in the older version of Windows Live Mail. When I am in that dialog, I can't see the status line using NVDA key end. When I am in the folders treeview, I can see the status line and I am told how many unread messages there are when I am on a folder if I issue the read status line command. I don't know what will happen in Outlook but when dealing with such a problem, accessing the item you want should be tried in different ways if those ways are available. In a dialog, you either aren't going to see the status line or it won't reflect what you are doing in the dialog.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
And window eyes also does this as
well.
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Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
It would be nice if someone would write a script to accomplish this if it’s possible.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:44 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue
I don't know if NVDA can see the information. If it can, it can be scripted.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Does this mean it could be scripted?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
That's good.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
If I am actually in the NVDA folder and read the status line with control end it will read the number of unread messages in that folder.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Window-eyes uses screen scraping more than NVDA, as far as I know. However, one thing that hasn't been discussed is whether this information can be seen by reviewing the screen in navigation or screen review mode. If the information can be seen in this way, then it would simply be a question of scripting that it be spoken automatically.
Meantime, it isn't clear to me how accessible the status line is in the program. Similar information may be in the status line. And finally, you may get the information automatically spoken now or see it more easily by using the status line if you don't use the control y dialog. I don't use Outlook but if it is designed as it used to be, if you are in the message list, you could shift tab once and be in the folders ttree view. You would up or down arrow to the folder you want to work with and press enter. I don't know why the control y dialog seems to be used a fair amount in this and other e-mail programs. I find it much more convenient to simply shift tab once and then tab back to the messages list.
Also, regarding the status line, I just tested the go to folder, control y, dialog in the older version of Windows Live Mail. When I am in that dialog, I can't see the status line using NVDA key end. When I am in the folders treeview, I can see the status line and I am told how many unread messages there are when I am on a folder if I issue the read status line command. I don't know what will happen in Outlook but when dealing with such a problem, accessing the item you want should be tried in different ways if those ways are available. In a dialog, you either aren't going to see the status line or it won't reflect what you are doing in the dialog.
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And window eyes also does this as well.
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Ralf,
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I can confirm this on my windows 10 computer with outlook 2016.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:19 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue Dear Folks, There may be others who have this issue with Outlook, but since Joseph Lee has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. Joseph, I wonder if you can reproduce a problem I have encountered with various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: In composing messages, I may hear unrelated words when I move from one field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened. Warmly, Ralph
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Adriani Botez
I cannot confirn this on win10 and outlook 2016. On win8.1 and outlook 2010 neather.
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Did you try to change the synthesizer or to reinstall nvda? Do you have the same issue then? Best Adriani Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Am 25.06.2017 um 08:01 schrieb Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com>:
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Ralph Boersema
I have had the issue for several years and with different Windows, Outlook,
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and NVDA versions. I think I did not have it with Outlook Express. I just tried a different synthesizer and that also did not make a difference. Ralph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Adriani Botez Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 9:37 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Outlook Issue I cannot confirn this on win10 and outlook 2016. On win8.1 and outlook 2010 neather. Did you try to change the synthesizer or to reinstall nvda? Do you have the same issue then? Best Adriani Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 25.06.2017 um 08:01 schrieb Pranav Lal <pranav.lal@gmail.com>:has just been able to confirm my (and Julia's) problem with reading the list in some Outlook folders, I would like to especially address this question to him. But, please let's chime in if anyone else can say something about this. various versions of Outlook. Currently, I am using Office 2016. It's actually more an annoyance than a problem. Here goes: field to another before the correct text is read. This happens frequently, but unpredictably, as far as I can figure (but, of course, that's not very far). In writing this message, for example, I just went back to the top and then jumped up to the subject field, using shift-tab. It read to me, "One inches dear folks subject alt u another outlook issue." On other occasions, but not this time, when I drop back down into the message field, it may first read the subject line of an unrelated email that I have just opened.
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