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Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch
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David Goldfield
Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed to this list and have been off of it for quite some time. I had mixed feelings about the new earcons which I noticed in a recent version in the "next" branch. While I generally like them I think that the sound going from focus mode back to browse mode is almost too quiet and I wonder if they should be a tad louder or slightly more pronounced. I'm also wondering if consideration was ever given to the idea of allowing users to change the sounds in the sounds applet in Windows itself, just as you now can with programs like speech recognition and the Window-Eyes screen reader.
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Bhavya shah
Hi David,
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Not sure about the Sounds Applet in Windows, but customization of NVDA sounds is certainly possible, although in a slightly hacky and unofficial (but not unethical or illegal) way. Check out the third trick which deals with this very task of my recent blog post 'Top 5 NVDA Tips and Tricks You Need To Know' located at https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/top-5-nvda-tips-and-tricks-you-need-to-know/ Thanks. On 6/30/17, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
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David Goldfield
Hi, Bhavya. Thanks for the link to your blog, which is quite good, by the way. Yes, I'm familiar with substituting the default wav files for ones which might be preferable. I may do that but was just wondering what people felt about the existing earcons being used in
the test branch. David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site
WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info
On 6/30/2017 1:09 PM, Bhavya shah wrote:
Hi David, Not sure about the Sounds Applet in Windows, but customization of NVDA sounds is certainly possible, although in a slightly hacky and unofficial (but not unethical or illegal) way. Check out the third trick which deals with this very task of my recent blog post 'Top 5 NVDA Tips and Tricks You Need To Know' located at https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/top-5-nvda-tips-and-tricks-you-need-to-know/ Thanks. On 6/30/17, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed to this list and have been off of it for quite some time. I had mixed feelings about the new earcons which I noticed in a recent version in the "next" branch. While I generally like them I think that the sound going from focus mode back to browse mode is almost too quiet and I wonder if they should be a tad louder or slightly more pronounced. I'm also wondering if consideration was ever given to the idea of allowing users to change the sounds in the sounds applet in Windows itself, just as you now can with programs like speech recognition and the Window-Eyes screen reader. -- David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info<http://WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info> |
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Andre Fisher
I like them. They are short and snappy. The start and exit sounds are
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a big improvement for me. The focus and browse mode sounds will take some getting used to, but I have gone through that process already. I wish the text error sound would be changed though, as it is too long. On 6/30/17, David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
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Brian's Mail list account
Yes I raised this as well. also a person who was hard of hearing said there was not enough lf in the sound for focus mode and it was quiet. also the start and end sounds need to be a little longer as it is hard to decide if they are rising and falling with such a short sound.
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I did put up some alternatives derived from the new sounds but nobody in authority commented or has changed them. Perhaps you could make a new issue about it and I'll add my thoughts as well? Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 5:15 PM Subject: [nvda] Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch Forgive me if this has already been discussed, as I have just resubscribed to this list and have been off of it for quite some time. |
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Brian's Mail list account
I don't like the next snaps sounds myself but I am only one person. See my previous reply.
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See what you think of these tweaked ones. https://www.dropbox.com/s/hkkz61mwjxjsqbk/waves.zip?dl=1 Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch Hi, Bhavya. |
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Brandon Cross <bcross3286@...>
I think it would be easier to hear if the sounds werent downsamplled to 22KHz. I have it on good authority they were created at 44.1KHz. On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 7:17 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: I don't like the next snaps sounds myself but I am only one person. See my previous reply. |
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Brian's Mail list account
Not sure how this would affect them. Yes they were and yes i did but to be honest its not an issue, but th4e sounds themselves were. I've tested them at both sample rates and can hear no difference.
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Did not seem much point in using a rate for bats when bats do not use computers. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Cross" <bcross3286@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch I think it would be easier to hear if the sounds werent downsamplled to |
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Ame
Okay, earcons? What the heck is an earcon and how do you use them?
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Devin Prater
Earcons are icons for the ears: they play in stead of words, for
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example, the forms mode earccon plays instead of "forms mode," being spoken. -- Devin Prater assistive Technology Instructor in training World services for the blind "Ame" <abk043@...> writes: Okay, earcons? What the heck is an earcon and how do you use them? |
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Gene
From the context and the similarity to icons, it
should mean an audio cue such as when you go from browse mode to forms
mode. I would think that sounds such as e-mail arrival would also be
called earcons.
I have't looked up the word but I'd be very surprised if
that isn't the meaning or something very similar.
Gene
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Arlene
Oh that's interesting!
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: July-02-17 11:41 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Thoughts About New Earcons in Test Branch Earcons are icons for the ears: they play in stead of words, for example, the forms mode earccon plays instead of "forms mode," being spoken. -- Devin Prater assistive Technology Instructor in training World services for the blind "Ame" <abk043@...> writes: Okay, earcons? What the heck is an earcon and how do you use them? |
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