Way Off Topic!!!


Carlos
 

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Antony Stone
 

I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
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Carlos
 

Hello:

It is possible to install windows by first using NVDA to start the process. And, once all is ready after a few hours you can activate narrator and complete the installation.

What I need is to totally reformat the hard drive so I can do a "true" clean install of windows!

So, it is all one query and not two separate queries.

Thank You! For your response!

On 7/8/2017 2:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Carlos,


If you have an external drive holder, I believe you could place the drive you want to format in it and format it that way and then put the drive back into a computer and with a specially adaptive Windows Disc, you could run the Windows install and designate the newly formatted drive as he install drive.

On 7/8/2017 5:57 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

It is possible to install windows by first using NVDA to start the process. And, once all is ready after a few hours you can activate narrator and complete the installation.

What I need is to totally reformat the hard drive so I can do a "true" clean install of windows!

So, it is all one query and not two separate queries.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 2:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Chris Mullins
 

When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Carlos
 

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!

On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com





--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


 

As far as I know there is no way to reformat a disc that you are currently using as the boot disc from which you are running Windows.   Way back when you used to be able to open Command Prompt and do a "format C:" and it would work, for some value of work, because it demolished Windows in the process.  There's probably a way to override the protection that does not allow this to be done now, but I wouldn't.

As someone else has already suggested, the only way I know of to achieve your goal is to hook up the disc drive that you'd like to format to another computer as a secondary/external drive and do the format from there.

For myself, a straight install of Windows (whether 10 or earlier) using install media is going to replace anything that needs replacing and is starting afresh, for all practical intents and purposes.   It will not remove things like the recovery partition that's probably on your drive and that was placed there by the computer manufacturer.  If you want to blow all of that away you will definitely need to reformat and repartition the drive.  And if you're doing this on an old drive that had employed MBR and you're installing Windows 8 or Windows 10 you might want to consider using GPT instead.

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Gene
 

I'm not sure what it is called but you should be able to use a pre installation environment, though I don't think that is the name.  You can boot into Windows, not the Windows running on your machine, but into a stripped down version of Windows on the pre installation medium and install windows using the stripped down version.  Windows offers to format the drive as part of installation.  Or, with sighted help, you can install Windows directly and it will offer to format.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

As far as I know there is no way to reformat a disc that you are currently using as the boot disc from which you are running Windows.   Way back when you used to be able to open Command Prompt and do a "format C:" and it would work, for some value of work, because it demolished Windows in the process.  There's probably a way to override the protection that does not allow this to be done now, but I wouldn't.

As someone else has already suggested, the only way I know of to achieve your goal is to hook up the disc drive that you'd like to format to another computer as a secondary/external drive and do the format from there.

For myself, a straight install of Windows (whether 10 or earlier) using install media is going to replace anything that needs replacing and is starting afresh, for all practical intents and purposes.   It will not remove things like the recovery partition that's probably on your drive and that was placed there by the computer manufacturer.  If you want to blow all of that away you will definitely need to reformat and repartition the drive.  And if you're doing this on an old drive that had employed MBR and you're installing Windows 8 or Windows 10 you might want to consider using GPT instead.

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Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Just for reference, the practices below are the absolute worst thing you can do for your computer. Setting the uac to not work, then run as admin all the time is just asking for viruses, trojans, and hackers to come on in and basically do whatever they like with your system. Bad, bad, bad. Don't do these things.

Every machine should (at minimum) have two accounts, one admin account used for installing software, and one normal everyday account that is a regular user with no admin privs that is used for your day to day computing, because then since there is no admin access, if a box pops up asking you for your admin credentials, and you didn't do anything to envoke said dialog, then you can be pretty sure something is trying to access your machine that shouldn't be doing so. Most times, simply canceling the admin login dialog at that point will keep your system safe, but at least then you know you need to take a look at your system and see what's going on.

It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.

On 7/8/2017 9:38 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com







David Goldfield
 

I'd like to second Travis's recommendations. For my day-to-day computer tasks, such as reading and answering emails, Web surfing, document composition, etc., I use a standard account with the user account control at its highest setting. When I want to perform computer maintenance, I log onto my admin account. This doesn't guarantee I won't get hit with anything but I try to do all that I can do to minimize the risk.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist Feel free to visit my Web site WWW.DavidGoldfield.Info

On 7/8/2017 11:33 AM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Just for reference, the practices below are the absolute worst thing you can do for your computer.  Setting the uac to not work, then run as admin all the time is just asking for viruses, trojans, and hackers to come on in and basically do whatever they like with your system.  Bad, bad, bad.  Don't do these things.

Every machine should (at minimum) have two accounts, one admin account used for installing software, and one normal everyday account that is a regular user with no admin privs that is used for your day to day computing, because then since there is no admin access, if a box pops up asking you for your admin credentials, and you didn't do anything to envoke said dialog, then you can be pretty sure something is trying to access your machine that shouldn't be doing so.  Most times, simply canceling the admin login dialog at that point will keep your system safe, but at least then you know you need to take a look at your system and see what's going on.

It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.


On 7/8/2017 9:38 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

    I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

    It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

    I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

    Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

      How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

      I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

      For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

      Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


-- 
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...















 

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 08:34 am, Travis Siegel wrote:
It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.
Amen, amen, amen!!

However, only when in that precise combination.  With UAC not turned off I am far less worried about running using an account with admin privileges because you still get prompted before anything will actually run with them.  The pop-up is not significantly different than if you have a standard account, but you can either allow or block without having to enter an admin username and password.

I have been running under an admin account on every Windows machine I use for decades now because I have need to install/uninstall software and do other tweaks far too frequently to be bothered with getting the full "enter username and password" prompt for admin tasks under a standard account.

If you routinely follow even half of the recommendations of quietman7 in his treatise, Best practices for safe computing, and you keep UAC on at default levels the likelihood of getting an infection is very, very, very low.

The above being said, if you are not a user who makes frequent changes to your system it is best practice to have one account with admin privileges used only when you need them and a standard account for your day-to-day computing.  There are just some folks for whom this might not be a good fit - I'm one of them.
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Jacques <lists4js@...>
 

Amen! I, too, can't believe thatin this day and age on the internet people can be so sloppy about security. It'slike leaving both your front and back door open for thugs to enter and do as they please.

Jacques

On 08/07/2017 17:33, Travis Siegel wrote:
Just for reference, the practices below are the absolute worst thing you can do for your computer. Setting the uac to not work, then run as admin all the time is just asking for viruses, trojans, and hackers to come on in and basically do whatever they like with your system. Bad, bad, bad. Don't do these things.

Every machine should (at minimum) have two accounts, one admin account used for installing software, and one normal everyday account that is a regular user with no admin privs that is used for your day to day computing, because then since there is no admin access, if a box pops up asking you for your admin credentials, and you didn't do anything to envoke said dialog, then you can be pretty sure something is trying to access your machine that shouldn't be doing so. Most times, simply canceling the admin login dialog at that point will keep your system safe, but at least then you know you need to take a look at your system and see what's going on.

It's extremely bad computing practice to run with admin accounts and UAC turned off, you really should change this as soon as is practical.


On 7/8/2017 9:38 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com










George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Have you considered a talking windows PE?  p e stands for preinstallation environment.  The ones I use can be found here:
There are environments for windows 7 and 10; 32 and 64 bit versions.
The installers create an image that can be burned onto a dvd or they create a bootable image on USB device such as a flash drive and therein lies the possible difficulty.  You may or may not need sighted assistance to get your computer to boot from a dvd or usb device.
Many computers have a key you can press repeatedly right after powerup that puts you into a boot menu.  Use the up and down arrows to highlight the boot device you want and press enter.  The boot menu does not talk, of course. If you don’t have sighted help, you will have to try each item in turn until you find the one you need.
The computers with boot menus that I’ve used have all booted to windows if I choose a boot option that is not available or does not contain a bootable image.
 
I freely admit that the number of computers I’ve worked on is a miniscule subset of all the computers in the world so proceed at your own risk.
 
If your computer doesn’t have a boot menu, you will have to change the boot order in the bios or UeFI.  You will almost certainly need assistance to do that.
 
When you boot into the preinstallation environment, you will be in a stripped-down version of windows.  If you use the PEs that I do, NVDA will load and speak with the default Espeak voice.  There are lots of useful tools on that windows desktop including two partition managers that will allow you to select a drive and partition and format that partition. 
 
But it’s even easier than that.  Everything you need for speech is on a ramdrive.  You can insert a windows installation disk and start the new install with speech.
 
I will not post further on this thread as it is off topic for this list.  Feel free to write me off list and I’ll do my best to answer your questions.  Better yet, subscribe to the techtalk list on groups.io techtalk+subscribe@groups.io for all the help you’ll need.  The list owner created these PEs and can answer all your questions.
 
Hth,
George


Chris Mullins
 

Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com






--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Carlos
 

Hello:

The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to get rid of them with disk cleanup!

Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting. However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for that there needs to be a disk reformat!

Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

Thank You! for reading my message!

On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com






--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com





--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com


Øyvind Lode
 

As already mentioned the way to go for formatting the system partition
is to boot into the the talking wpe.
You can also start the installation process from WPE.
I've moved to W10 now and I recently did a fresh/clean install only
using the W10 boot media.
Microsoft made the installation process fully accessible as of W10
creators update released april of this year.
I used the windows media creation tool to download windows 10 and
create a bootable usb flash disk.
I then rebooted my machine and brought up the boot menu and booted from usb.
I waited a bit to be sure Windows 10 setup where loaded on the usb
disk and I then pressed ctrl + windows + enter to start narrator.
I then deleted all partitions on my laptop containing my old w8.1
installation and recovery and created my own partition scheme and
installed a fresh copy of w10.
The laptop rebooted once and I then pressed ctrl + windows + enter
again to complete setup.
A very well done job by Microsoft making the install accessible - even
on a blank hard drive.

On 8 July 2017 at 20:24, Carlos <gmjc341961@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello:

The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to get
rid of them with disk cleanup!

Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting.
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is why I
may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for that there
needs to be a disk reformat!

Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

Thank You! for reading my message!



On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context
menu. However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!

It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!

I am the only one on my PC. So, I have the user access control set
to zero. And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.

Thank You! For your response!


On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system
files will not be removed unless you are.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Carlos
Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows
it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file
explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which
should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com






--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com






--
Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@gmail.com




Gene
 

I'm sure there is a way to delete them without using Windows cleanup.  You don't have to reformat just to get rid of such folders. Have you tried deleting them using Windows Explorer?  If that doesn't work, there are utilities that allow files to be deleted that are being kept from doing so by the operating system showing them as in use when they aren't. 
 
Others may have more information.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

     The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to
get rid of them with disk cleanup!

     Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting. 
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

     I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is
why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for
that there needs to be a disk reformat!

     Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

     Thank You! for reading my message!


On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>
> Hello:
>
>       I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!
>
>       It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!
>
>       I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.
>
>       Thank You! For your response!
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
>> When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Carlos
>> Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>>        How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?
>>
>>        I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.
>>
>>        For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!
>>
>>        Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
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>>
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Well you can do a pc reset each install, but you can also manually kill the junk that is left over without any issue.

On 8/07/2017 9:38 p.m., Carlos wrote:
Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


 

win10 reset is accessible though once it does what it needs I think.

On 8/07/2017 9:44 p.m., Antony Stone wrote:
I believe you're asking two different questions:

1. how to format a hard disk

2. how to install windows

To the best of my knowledge the second is not possible without sighted
assistance.


Regards,

Antony.

On Saturday 08 July 2017 at 11:38:48, Carlos wrote:

Hello All:

How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted
help?

I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted
drive.

For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it
will always leave old junk behind! And, it does not matter if you use
disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files. When you use any
file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk
which should have been cleaned is still there!

Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!


Carlos
 

Hello:

    When I try to delete them with file explorer.  Or, for that matter, any other file management software.  When trying to use the wipe/shred/destroy function I get a file not accessible/file does not exist/file not available error messages!

    So, I guess I'm stuck with having all those windows.old files on my machine.

    Today I upgraded from win8.1 to win10 and the windows.old family has now grown to seven directories!

    I have been using PCs since the days of DOS 4.0 to the present and this one is very hard to understand why it's happening?

    Thank You! For all your help!


On 7/8/2017 1:08 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm sure there is a way to delete them without using Windows cleanup.  You don't have to reformat just to get rid of such folders. Have you tried deleting them using Windows Explorer?  If that doesn't work, there are utilities that allow files to be deleted that are being kept from doing so by the operating system showing them as in use when they aren't. 
 
Others may have more information.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Carlos
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!

Hello:

     The windows.old directories will not go away no matter how I try to
get rid of them with disk cleanup!

     Disk cleanup sees them and the check box is checked for deleting. 
However! Disk cleanup seems to be unable/unwilling to delete them!

     I currently have four windows.old on the root directory. That is
why I may need to do a fresh/clean install of any windows OS and for
that there needs to be a disk reformat!

     Being blind and living alone really s___s!!!

     Thank You! for reading my message!


On 7/8/2017 10:36 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
> Could you give an example of a folder theat will not go away?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Carlos
> Sent: 8 July 2017 14:38
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>
> Hello:
>
>       I am using disk cleanup with the run as admin choice on the context menu.  However, some things just refuse to go away no matter what I do!
>
>       It is as if something locks them and does not let them be removed!
>
>       I am the only one on my PC.  So, I have the user access control set to zero.  And, I keep myself logged in as admin all the time.
>
>       Thank You! For your response!
>
>
> On 7/8/2017 5:28 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:
>> When you run disk clean up are you doing so in admin mode as old system files will not be removed unless you are.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Carlos
>> Sent: 8 July 2017 10:39
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: [nvda] Way Off Topic!!!
>>
>> Hello All:
>>
>>        How can a totally blind person format a hard disk without sighted help?
>>
>>        I would like to be able to install windows on a freshly formatted drive.
>>
>>        For some unknown reason when installing a new version of windows it will always leave old junk behind!  And, it does not matter if you use disk cleanup to clean out unwanted leftover files.  When you use any file explorer to look at the root directory you will see that old junk which should have been cleaned is still there!
>>
>>        Thank You! For all your helpful suggestions!!!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Carlos Gonzalez - Los Angeles, CA. - gmjc341961@...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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