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The Gamages
 

Hello,
 
To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system, perhaps you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the brand new 3.5 billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating system. If the warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding the operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all trust

politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?
 
 
 
 
Best Regards, Jim.


Gene
 

No matter what is done, XP is inherently not as secure as later versions of Windows because of changes in later versions of Windows to make them more secure.  But if entities are willing to pay Microsoft, Microsoft will send security patches for XP to the entities.  But the entities must pay for the service.  I have no idea if this is being done, but if you spend some money, it can be. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:59 AM
Subject: [nvda] XP warnings

Hello,
 
To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system, perhaps you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the brand new 3.5 billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating system. If the warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding the operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all trust

politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?
 
 
 
 
Best Regards, Jim.


 

thanks gene.
i did not know, if we pay microsoft, we can even recieve security
patches for xp.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
No matter what is done, XP is inherently not as secure as later versions of
Windows because of changes in later versions of Windows to make them more
secure. But if entities are willing to pay Microsoft, Microsoft will send
security patches for XP to the entities. But the entities must pay for the
service. I have no idea if this is being done, but if you spend some money,
it can be.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Gamages
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] XP warnings


Hello,

To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system, perhaps
you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the brand new 3.5
billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating system. If the
warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding the
operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all trust
politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?




Best Regards, Jim.
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org


 

Hi,
No, not as a user.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings

thanks gene.
i did not know, if we pay microsoft, we can even recieve security patches for xp.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
No matter what is done, XP is inherently not as secure as later
versions of Windows because of changes in later versions of Windows to
make them more secure. But if entities are willing to pay Microsoft,
Microsoft will send security patches for XP to the entities. But the
entities must pay for the service. I have no idea if this is being
done, but if you spend some money, it can be.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Gamages
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] XP warnings


Hello,

To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system,
perhaps you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the
brand new 3.5 billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating
system. If the warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding
the operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all
trust politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?




Best Regards, Jim.

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Gene
 

I don't know if individuals can and it's very expensive, probably costing thousands of dollars a year for the service.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings

thanks gene.
i did not know, if we pay microsoft, we can even recieve security
patches for xp.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> No matter what is done, XP is inherently not as secure as later versions of
> Windows because of changes in later versions of Windows to make them more
> secure.  But if entities are willing to pay Microsoft, Microsoft will send
> security patches for XP to the entities.  But the entities must pay for the
> service.  I have no idea if this is being done, but if you spend some money,
> it can be.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: The Gamages
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] XP warnings
>
>
> Hello,
>
> To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system, perhaps
> you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the brand new 3.5
> billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating system. If the
> warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
> The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding the
> operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all trust
> politicians
>
> don’t we?
> Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards, Jim.
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
al-islam.org




 

Well it depends on what its used for.

Xp is quite secure as long as you don't have to go online via standard net.

I mean xp imbedded is still used in eftpos terminals somehow.

Chances are if all you do is connect through some server for whatever you need and not directly through to the net the server is the thing that needs securing and all thats connected to it.

But yeah, just be happy politicians do not write or build our computers.

On 26/07/2017 3:59 a.m., The Gamages wrote:
Hello,

To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system, perhaps
you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the brand new 3.5
billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating system. If the
warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding the
operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all trust
politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?




Best Regards, Jim.


 

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 04:21 pm, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Xp is quite secure as long as you don't have to go online via standard net.
Which brings us full circle as far as your average home or business user goes:   It's neither safe nor secure, and hasn't been for some time.

When you add in the fact that the version of IE that runs under XP is not even allowed to access certain websites (by them) and cannot handle many contemporary web coding standards you end up with a bad situation just from a usability perspective.

There are myriad really, really good reasons that no computing professional will ever tell you that it's A-OK to run an unsupported operating system, any unsupported operating system, and particularly if it is interacting with cyberspace.  They have a finite shelf life, and the ones that have been around for decades bear minimal resemblance, under the hood, to their original forms in all kinds of functions.  They are being actively supported and changed as circumstances dictate.
 
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Chuckle. It could be that like the NHS the specialist devices used have not got drivers for anything else. Talking to a radiographer the other day tells me that the companies making specialist gear for the medics want them to buy expensive new hardware to run on the newer versions of Windows, when in point of fact its entirely possible that a cheap rewrite of software and drivers would do the same job with existing hardware.
As blind people I'm sure we have all seen this, when expensive cctv devices we get are in fact made out of cheap as chips stuff and the profit margin is huge simply because they feel its a small captive market who can not go anywhere else.
Sadly this is capitalism at work.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Gamages" <james.gamage@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 4:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] XP warnings


Hello,

To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system, perhaps
you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the brand new 3.5
billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating system. If the
warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding the
operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all trust
politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?




Best Regards, Jim.


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I think that its not cheap. For the record, even Link who run the cash machines now do not pay for updates to xp, and I'd suggest that from what I'm told nobody does. Indeed although at present I'm getting anti virus updates for msse on xp, that may well not be for much longer.
I will say this though, they did roll out some updates, 2 to be precise to fix the problem shown up by the ransom ware a few weeks back.

That was the last update the OS seemed to get as testing for updates now will use all processor power and come up with notheing. However you can still download the updates manually if you want to search their web site.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings


Hi,
No, not as a user.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings

thanks gene.
i did not know, if we pay microsoft, we can even recieve security patches for xp.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
No matter what is done, XP is inherently not as secure as later
versions of Windows because of changes in later versions of Windows to
make them more secure. But if entities are willing to pay Microsoft,
Microsoft will send security patches for XP to the entities. But the
entities must pay for the service. I have no idea if this is being
done, but if you spend some money, it can be.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Gamages
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] XP warnings


Hello,

To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system,
perhaps you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the
brand new 3.5 billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating
system. If the warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding
the operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all
trust politicians

don’t we?
Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?




Best Regards, Jim.

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org


Gene
 

The updates to the version of XP used in things like ATM's are free but there are some businesses and, I assume government agencies, who pay Microsoft to provide updates for regular XP for them.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 2:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings

I think that its not cheap. For the record, even Link who run the cash
machines now do not pay for updates to xp, and I'd suggest that from what
I'm told nobody does. Indeed although at present I'm getting anti virus
updates for msse on xp, that may well not be for much longer.
 I will say this though, they did roll out some updates, 2 to be precise to
fix the problem shown up by the ransom ware a few weeks back.

That was the last update the OS seemed to get as testing for updates now
will use all processor power and come up with notheing. However you can
still download the updates manually if you want to search their web site.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings


Hi,
No, not as a user.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin
khaksar
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:33 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] XP warnings

thanks gene.
i did not know, if we pay microsoft, we can even recieve security patches
for xp.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/25/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> No matter what is done, XP is inherently not as secure as later
> versions of Windows because of changes in later versions of Windows to
> make them more secure.  But if entities are willing to pay Microsoft,
> Microsoft will send security patches for XP to the entities.  But the
> entities must pay for the service.  I have no idea if this is being
> done, but if you spend some money, it can be.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: The Gamages
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:59 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] XP warnings
>
>
> Hello,
>
> To those warning of the vulnerability of the XP operating system,
> perhaps you should direct these at the UK Ministry of defense as the
> brand new 3.5 billion pound aircraft carrier has XP as it’s operating
> system. If the warnings are correct, that’s frightening.
> The defense minister says it’s quite safe as the security surrounding
> the operating system is more than adequate and, of course, we all
> trust politicians
>
> don’t we?
> Perhaps it’s not connected to the internet?
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards, Jim.
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration is:
imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages al-islam.org