new sounds are gone


Josh Kennedy
 

in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.


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Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz



On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



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in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a pitty we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have audiothemes addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have schemes, and we can choose what does what.

Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my own system, well thats another story.

On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Quentin Christensen
 

The first two comments exemplify the difficulty we've encountered with the sounds.  Some people love the old sounds and some like the idea of change.

The way we had implemented it was simply to replace the sounds, but the feedback we've received indicates that what would suit most users is the ability to choose which sounds to use.

So we made the decision to stick with the original sounds for now and in the longer term look at how best to add the ability to change sounds, perhaps similarly to the way addons work.

So the short answer is yes, we've reverted to the old sounds and that is what will be in 2017.3, but it doesn't mean we've abandoned the idea.

Regards.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a pitty we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have audiothemes addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have schemes, and we can choose what does what.

Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my own system, well thats another story.




On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:
hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
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hi quentin.
i agree with freedom of choice about using sounds.
could you please send me the sound privately?
i think thats better keep both old and new sound for different taiste
of your users.
thanks for your help and God bless you.

On 8/2/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The first two comments exemplify the difficulty we've encountered with the
sounds. Some people love the old sounds and some like the idea of change.

The way we had implemented it was simply to replace the sounds, but the
feedback we've received indicates that what would suit most users is the
ability to choose which sounds to use.

So we made the decision to stick with the original sounds for now and in
the longer term look at how best to add the ability to change sounds,
perhaps similarly to the way addons work.

So the short answer is yes, we've reverted to the old sounds and that is
what will be in 2017.3, but it doesn't mean we've abandoned the idea.

Regards.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a
pitty
we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have audiothemes
addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have
schemes,
and we can choose what does what.

Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my
own
system, well thats another story.




On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my
own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the
old
sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the
final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy
of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which
locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near
you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/.
The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed
the
NVDA expert exam.




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
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can I also get the sounds off list? the newer ones?

On 8/1/2017 8:44 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi quentin.
i agree with freedom of choice about using sounds.
could you please send me the sound privately?
i think thats better keep both old and new sound for different taiste
of your users.
thanks for your help and God bless you.

On 8/2/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The first two comments exemplify the difficulty we've encountered with the
sounds. Some people love the old sounds and some like the idea of change.

The way we had implemented it was simply to replace the sounds, but the
feedback we've received indicates that what would suit most users is the
ability to choose which sounds to use.

So we made the decision to stick with the original sounds for now and in
the longer term look at how best to add the ability to change sounds,
perhaps similarly to the way addons work.

So the short answer is yes, we've reverted to the old sounds and that is
what will be in 2017.3, but it doesn't mean we've abandoned the idea.

Regards.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a
pitty
we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have audiothemes
addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have
schemes,
and we can choose what does what.

Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my
own
system, well thats another story.




On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my
own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the
old
sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the
final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy
of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which
locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near
you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/.
The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed
the
NVDA expert exam.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Brian's Mail list account
 

You need to read the issues trackers on this one. From what I see the intention is to make them configurable, but not yet. I believe there is already an add on to vary them, but since I like the old ones, then I've not tried it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Josh Kennedy" <joshknnd1982@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] new sounds are gone


in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.


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Brian's Mail list account
 

Jamie has said he rather wants to change the logo sound, but I personally feel this would be a mistake also, but I'm open to suggestions for the event sounds.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene New Zealand" <hurrikennyandopo@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new sounds are gone


hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the old sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Brian's Mail list account
 

I think that if you download the older snap of next prior to the change, unzip it as in a portable version, to a folder, then the sounds are in the waves folder for you to play with.
Seems the simplest way, however, be aware that when you do an update the waves folder in the installed copy is overwritten.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new sounds are gone


can I also get the sounds off list? the newer ones?


On 8/1/2017 8:44 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi quentin.
i agree with freedom of choice about using sounds.
could you please send me the sound privately?
i think thats better keep both old and new sound for different taiste
of your users.
thanks for your help and God bless you.

On 8/2/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The first two comments exemplify the difficulty we've encountered with the
sounds. Some people love the old sounds and some like the idea of change.

The way we had implemented it was simply to replace the sounds, but the
feedback we've received indicates that what would suit most users is the
ability to choose which sounds to use.

So we made the decision to stick with the original sounds for now and in
the longer term look at how best to add the ability to change sounds,
perhaps similarly to the way addons work.

So the short answer is yes, we've reverted to the old sounds and that is
what will be in 2017.3, but it doesn't mean we've abandoned the idea.

Regards.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a
pitty
we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have audiothemes
addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have
schemes,
and we can choose what does what.

Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my
own
system, well thats another story.




On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add my
own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the
old
sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for the
final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy
of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which
locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near
you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/.
The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed
the
NVDA expert exam.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


 

could you please send me the wave folder off list?
i like old sound, but wish to hear new ones.
thanks and God bless you.

On 8/2/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists@...> wrote:
I think that if you download the older snap of next prior to the change,
unzip it as in a portable version, to a folder, then the sounds are in the
waves folder for you to play with.
Seems the simplest way, however, be aware that when you do an update the
waves folder in the installed copy is overwritten.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] new sounds are gone


can I also get the sounds off list? the newer ones?


On 8/1/2017 8:44 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi quentin.
i agree with freedom of choice about using sounds.
could you please send me the sound privately?
i think thats better keep both old and new sound for different taiste
of your users.
thanks for your help and God bless you.

On 8/2/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
The first two comments exemplify the difficulty we've encountered with
the
sounds. Some people love the old sounds and some like the idea of
change.

The way we had implemented it was simply to replace the sounds, but the
feedback we've received indicates that what would suit most users is
the
ability to choose which sounds to use.

So we made the decision to stick with the original sounds for now and
in
the longer term look at how best to add the ability to change sounds,
perhaps similarly to the way addons work.

So the short answer is yes, we've reverted to the old sounds and that
is
what will be in 2017.3, but it doesn't mean we've abandoned the idea.

Regards.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>
wrote:

in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a
pitty
we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have
audiothemes
addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have
schemes,
and we can choose what does what.

Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my
own
system, well thats another story.




On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add
my
own.


i did not like the sound of the new ones.


in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.


Gene nz


On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the
old
sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for
the
final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.



--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use
a
copy
of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which
locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near
you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/.
The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully
passed
the
NVDA expert exam.


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now
available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Ph +61 7 3149 3306
www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess






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Andre Fisher
 

Rather than someone send you the zip file, be a bit more independent and download a Next snapshot from a week ago, create a portable copy and go into the waves folder and listen to them. I have them on my computer. If you don’t know how to do this, ask on the group.

 

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From: nasrin khaksar
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new sounds are gone

 

could you please send me the wave folder off list?

i like old sound, but wish to hear new ones.

thanks and God bless you.

 

On 8/2/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<bglists@...> wrote:

> I think that if you download the older snap of next prior to the change,

> unzip it as in a portable version, to a folder, then the sounds are in the

> waves folder for you to play with.

>  Seems the simplest way, however, be aware that when you do an update the

> waves folder in the installed copy is overwritten.

>  Brian

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal email to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 5:04 AM

> Subject: Re: [nvda] new sounds are gone

>> can I also get the sounds off list? the newer ones?

>> 

>> 

>> On 8/1/2017 8:44 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:

>>> hi quentin.

>>> i agree with freedom of choice about using sounds.

>>> could you please send me the sound privately?

>>> i think thats better keep both old and new sound for different taiste

>>> of your users.

>>> thanks for your help and God bless you.

>>> 

>>> On 8/2/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

>>>> The first two comments exemplify the difficulty we've encountered with

>>>> the

>>>> sounds.  Some people love the old sounds and some like the idea of

>>>> change.

>>>> 

>>>> The way we had implemented it was simply to replace the sounds, but the

>>>> feedback we've received indicates that what would suit most users is

>>>> the

>>>> ability to choose which sounds to use.

>>>> 

>>>> So we made the decision to stick with the original sounds for now and

>>>> in

>>>> the longer term look at how best to add the ability to change sounds,

>>>> perhaps similarly to the way addons work.

>>>> 

>>>> So the short answer is yes, we've reverted to the old sounds and that

>>>> is

>>>> what will be in 2017.3, but it doesn't mean we've abandoned the idea.

>>>> 

>>>> Regards.

>>>> 

>>>> Quentin.

>>>> 

>>>> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...>

>>>> wrote:

>>>> 

>>>>> in the old bt sync group we had several soundschemes for nvda, its a

>>>>> pitty

>>>>> we can't download these, yes I am perfectly aware we can have

>>>>> audiothemes

>>>>> addons and such but we need a way to download soundpacks, and have

>>>>> schemes,

>>>>> and we can choose what does what.

>>>>> 

>>>>> Obviously I don't want to many sounds when doing admin stuff but on my

>>>>> own

>>>>> system, well thats another story.

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> On 2/08/2017 8:41 a.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:

>>>>> 

>>>>>> hi

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> I would rather stay with the older sounds or have the option to add

>>>>>> my

>>>>>> own.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> i did not like the sound of the new ones.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> in a funny sort of way the old sound is like the trade mark of nvda.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> Gene nz

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> On 8/2/2017 6:37 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:

>>>>>> in the latest NVDA next snapshot the new sounds are gone they put the

>>>>>> old

>>>>>> sounds back. I liked those new sounds and I hope they keep them for

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> final 2017.3 and 2017.4 releases.

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> 

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> [Image NVDA          certified expert]

>>>>>> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related

>>>>>> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where

>>>>>> you

>>>>>> are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use

>>>>>> a

>>>>>> copy

>>>>>> of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out

>>>>>> which

>>>>>> locations (or location) is near to you please visit

>>>>>> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries

>>>>>> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert

>>>>>> near

>>>>>> you, please visit the following link

>>>>>> https://certification.nvaccess.org/.

>>>>>> The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified

>>>>>> individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully

>>>>>> passed

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> NVDA expert exam.

>>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>>> 

>>>> 

>>>> --

>>>> Quentin Christensen

>>>> Training and Support Manager

>>>> 

>>>> Basic Training for NVDA & Microsoft Word with NVDA E-Books now

>>>> available:

>>>> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

>>>> 

>>>> Ph +61 7 3149 3306

>>>> www.nvaccess.org

>>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

>>>> Twitter: @NVAccess

>>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration is:

imam hosein is the beacon of light and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages

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