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mk360
True in parts. New Microsoft's synths has a better spanish than espeak-ng, but usually with many problems in the inflection. Also the thing is Eloquence and espeak-ng works faster than any other synts, so if I've to choose I prefer espeak than new Microsoft synths, that are prepared to sound like an human, but not to work with these. When I write contracts or read some of these I prefer speed and inflection, no a human with pauses between words. However, I'm giving an explanation of what is hapening, I sayd that I can use espeak without problem before... I've used other voices with many problems, so espeak is good for me... I prefer Eloquence, but if it is not available, is not and I can live with that.On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: OK granted but I was given to understand that the newer voices on windows did have native speakers of other languages. Is tis wrong? I'm not an expert but I can tell the difference between South American Spanish and real Spanish, same for Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. However and this is just to me, Eloquence sounds decidedly like its got a bad case of adenoids no matter what he is speaking. |
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Gene
I've said before that if you are listening to the
Brittish Eloquence voice, that is a bad rendering with a phony Brittish
accent. It was clearly prepared by American English Speakers who didn't
bother to get speakers of Brittish English to develop the voice. That
doesn't mean other versions are bad.
I haven't played with many of the newer forms of
synthesizer but of the synthesizers I've heard, the american Eloquence has the
most clear speech, and the least mispronounced words when compared with other
American voices I've heard.. I can read at about 420 words per minute
before I start missing enough words to make reading at fast speeds
inefficient.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Synths did have native speakers of other languages. Is tis wrong? I'm not an expert but I can tell the difference between South American Spanish and real Spanish, same for Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. However and this is just to me, Eloquence sounds decidedly like its got a bad case of adenoids no matter what he is speaking. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "mk360" <mk.seventhson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Synths > Brian, the thing is Eloquence is one of the best synths on other languages > like spanish. I use espeak-ng without problem, but espeak doesn't speak a > good spanish, he is clearly not a native Spanish speaker, he is more of an > English speaker who learned to speak in Spanish and for not to be Spanish > his first language does it well, but not as a Spanish speaker. If you see > who is requesting Eloquence, many us are speakers of other languages > (well, > I don't request eloquence or similar because I know it will not be > available for free, and espeak is good for my needs). > However, this has been said on several occasions in the list already, also > in other forums, and I personally think it is a sterile discussion on this > point. I only explain it because I don't think it can be characterized as > an addiction to wanting to hear your native language spoken correctly and > not with letters like "r","d","t", with a strange accent. > > Regards, > mk. > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io < > bglists@...> wrote: > >> None of the 'real' Eloquence libraries now available are free. As I think >> somebody said, Sappi 4 Via Voice is similar but not exactly Eloquence and >> can still work, but a lot of people are spending their money as as a well >> as the old Eloquence if you buy a package you get other voices more >> suited >> to reading docs and this can be set up as a user profile so you can hear >> more comfortable readings while still retaining the quick and dirty >> access >> in menus etc. >> >> There are now so many people talking about Eloquence, I've hived all >> these >> messages off into another folder. I'm beginning to think that people >> might >> be addicted to Eloquence, Next we will have rehab clinics to wean folk >> off >> of it! :-) >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal email to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" < >> clgilland07@...> >> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:30 PM >> Subject: [nvda] Synths >> >> >> I've changed the subject to better reflect. Hope that was OK. >> >> I don't think Vocalizer is free either. Sorry. >> --- >> Christopher Gilland >> ----- Original Message ----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo >> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 5:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence >> >> >> vocilelizer the nvda version or the all computer of vocolizer please >> or free free free voices not the ones u pay for I don't have the money >> >> >> >> >> > |
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OK granted but I was given to understand that the newer voices on windows did have native speakers of other languages. Is tis wrong? I'm not an expert but I can tell the difference between South American Spanish and real Spanish, same for Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. However and this is just to me, Eloquence sounds decidedly like its got a bad case of adenoids no matter what he is speaking.
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Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "mk360" <mk.seventhson@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Synths Brian, the thing is Eloquence is one of the best synths on other languages |
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mk360
Brian, the thing is Eloquence is one of the best synths on other languages like spanish. I use espeak-ng without problem, but espeak doesn't speak a good spanish, he is clearly not a native Spanish speaker, he is more of an English speaker who learned to speak in Spanish and for not to be Spanish his first language does it well, but not as a Spanish speaker. If you see who is requesting Eloquence, many us are speakers of other languages (well, I don't request eloquence or similar because I know it will not be available for free, and espeak is good for my needs). However, this has been said on several occasions in the list already, also in other forums, and I personally think it is a sterile discussion on this point. I only explain it because I don't think it can be characterized as an addiction to wanting to hear your native language spoken correctly and not with letters like "r","d","t", with a strange accent. Regards, mk. On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: None of the 'real' Eloquence libraries now available are free. As I think somebody said, Sappi 4 Via Voice is similar but not exactly Eloquence and can still work, but a lot of people are spending their money as as a well as the old Eloquence if you buy a package you get other voices more suited to reading docs and this can be set up as a user profile so you can hear more comfortable readings while still retaining the quick and dirty access in menus etc. |
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Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
I need to mute the Eloquenc topic. I'd advuse you to do the same if you wish.
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On 9/4/2017 5:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
None of the 'real' Eloquence libraries now available are free. As I think somebody said, Sappi 4 Via Voice is similar but not exactly Eloquence and can still work, but a lot of people are spending their money as as a well as the old Eloquence if you buy a package you get other voices more suited to reading docs and this can be set up as a user profile so you can hear more comfortable readings while still retaining the quick and dirty access in menus etc. |
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None of the 'real' Eloquence libraries now available are free. As I think somebody said, Sappi 4 Via Voice is similar but not exactly Eloquence and can still work, but a lot of people are spending their money as as a well as the old Eloquence if you buy a package you get other voices more suited to reading docs and this can be set up as a user profile so you can hear more comfortable readings while still retaining the quick and dirty access in menus etc.
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There are now so many people talking about Eloquence, I've hived all these messages off into another folder. I'm beginning to think that people might be addicted to Eloquence, Next we will have rehab clinics to wean folk off of it! :-) Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgilland07@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 11:30 PM Subject: [nvda] Synths I've changed the subject to better reflect. Hope that was OK. I don't think Vocalizer is free either. Sorry. --- Christopher Gilland ----- Original Message ----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2017 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Help With Eloquence vocilelizer the nvda version or the all computer of vocolizer please or free free free voices not the ones u pay for I don't have the money |
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Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgilland07@...>
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I've changed the subject to better reflect. Hope
that was OK.
I don't think Vocalizer is free either.
Sorry.
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