Accessible antivirus programs


Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...>
 

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 


Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...

On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 



Sarah k Alawami
 

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.

On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?
 




Quentin Christensen
 

I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virushttps://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virushttp://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?
 






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky!  It was all over the mainstream media that Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat.  Some businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virushttps://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virushttp://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?
 






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that communists ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky!  It was all over the mainstream media that Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virus: https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/ <https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virus: http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html <http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx <https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@... <mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
<mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

I use Defender as well, but I run Malwarebytes along with it.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 13 September 2017 23:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs

 

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.

On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

 

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 

 

 


Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Minor correction, you said:-

 

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: 

 

You meant Sofos?  Sonos is a music system. <Smile>.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 14 September 2017 00:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs

 

I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

 

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

 

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

 

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virushttps://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

 

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virushttp://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

 

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

 

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.

On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

 

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 

 

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Kwork
 

Well, you do have to admit, it does have a Russian sounding name. LOL!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs


Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that communists
ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky! It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft. This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our
users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
<mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Mallard,


Here are just a few citations of this issue.  It's not some weird
conspiracy theory.


From Washington Post US Moves To Ban Kaspersky Software


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-ban-use-of-kaspersky-software-in-federal-agencies-amid-concerns-of-russian-espionage/2017/09/13/36b717d0-989e-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html


Ban On Software From BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41262049


From NY Times The Russian Company ThatIs A Danger To Our Security

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/opinion/kapersky-russia-cybersecurity.html




On 9/14/2017 4:06 AM, Mallard wrote:
Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that
communists ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky!  It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this
year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is
accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>


Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of
our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

    Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
    If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
    On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
    <mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

    MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
    years...
    Too much hype out there...
    On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
    Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


 

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 02:45 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:
MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Yep, and Windows Defender (on Windows 8 and later) is getting better and better.  Oddly enough, even the tech press agrees about this. 

If you (for any you) are getting repeated infections then you need to examine your own browsing practices.  The vast majority of viruses, malware, and the like do not "sneak on" to your computer but are invited there by your visiting the places that they live.

Two articles that are must read, as far as I'm concerned, Best Practices for Safe Computingand What you must understand regarding computer security.
 
--
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Brian's Mail list account
 

The problem with anti virus programs in general is of course that if you are the person to be one of the first to encounter a new bit of malware, no anti virus currently around will spot it.
What I tend to do is use the MSSE in Windows 7 and Superantispyware. This later program, though not totally accessible is if you start from the prompt to update its definitions and then run it. It has focus at start up issues, but I think the people who make it really do not understand the implication of not getting this part and the list of malware access correct. You can read it all with nvda/B but not all with the two navigation modes nvda has unfortunately.
However you can quarantine any dodgy stuff and see the log.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs


On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 02:45 pm, Randy Barnett wrote:


MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Yep, and Windows Defender (on Windows 8 and later) is getting better and better. Oddly enough, even the tech press agrees about this.

If you (for any you) are getting repeated infections then you need to examine your own browsing practices. The vast majority of viruses, malware, and the like do not "sneak on" to your computer but are invited there by your visiting the places that they live.

Two articles that are must read, as far as I'm concerned, Best Practices for Safe Computing ( https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/407147/answers-to-common-security-questions-best-practices/ ) , and What you *must* understand regarding computer security ( https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/650022/is-this-security-setup-good-enough/#entry4268478 ) .

--
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

* * *The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.* * But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another* * profound truth.*

* ~ * *Niels Bohr*


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Yes maybe maybe not. I heard it yesterday and thought to myself, well its been like this for years, would not all the horses have already bolted by now if this really was true?
IE its a bit late to start to worry now. some of the best virus writers come from over there and for ages there have been conspiracy roumours that those helping to write anti virus software also wrotw most of the viruses in the first place!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs


Hi Mallard,


Here are just a few citations of this issue. It's not some weird
conspiracy theory.


From Washington Post US Moves To Ban Kaspersky Software


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-ban-use-of-kaspersky-software-in-federal-agencies-amid-concerns-of-russian-espionage/2017/09/13/36b717d0-989e-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html


Ban On Software From BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41262049


From NY Times The Russian Company ThatIs A Danger To Our Security

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/opinion/kapersky-russia-cybersecurity.html




On 9/14/2017 4:06 AM, Mallard wrote:
Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that
communists ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky! It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft. This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this
year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is
accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>


Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of
our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
<mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Mallard <mallard@...>
 

lol! I've seen hoaxes of all sorts spread by very reliable sources!

Wouldn't take it seriously, especially given the times we're living in right now, and all strange attitudes toward Russia that are being displayed here and there...

Il 14/09/2017 17:12, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Yes maybe maybe not. I heard it yesterday and thought to myself, well its been like this for years, would not all the horses have already bolted by now if this really was true?
IE its a bit late to start to worry now. some of the best virus writers come from over there and for ages there have been conspiracy roumours that those helping to write anti virus software also wrotw most of the viruses in the first place!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs


Hi Mallard,


Here are just a few citations of this issue. It's not some weird
conspiracy theory.


From Washington Post US Moves To Ban Kaspersky Software


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-ban-use-of-kaspersky-software-in-federal-agencies-amid-concerns-of-russian-espionage/2017/09/13/36b717d0-989e-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html


Ban On Software From BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41262049


From NY Times The Russian Company ThatIs A Danger To Our Security

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/opinion/kapersky-russia-cybersecurity.html




On 9/14/2017 4:06 AM, Mallard wrote:
Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that
communists ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky! It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft. This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this
year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is
accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>


Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of
our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
<mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?



--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







Mallard <mallard@...>
 

...Just because it is Russian! lol!

Il 14/09/2017 16:23, Kwork ha scritto:
Well, you do have to admit, it does have a Russian sounding name. LOL!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs


Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that communists
ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky! It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft. This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our
users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
<mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I find it hard to believe that there isn't at least some merit to this.
It appeared in countless mainstream media around the world and you would
think that if there was some sort of media conspiracy of such
proportions that it would leak out.  It sounds like a lot of you are
influenced by this idea that all news is now fake news that doesn't
agree with a particular political point of view.



On 9/14/2017 12:19 PM, Mallard wrote:
...Just because it is Russian! lol!





Il 14/09/2017 16:23, Kwork ha scritto:
Well, you do have to admit, it does have a Russian sounding name. LOL!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mallard" <mallard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessible antivirus programs


Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that communists
ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky! It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft. This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this
year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is
accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>


Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our
users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

     Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
     If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
     On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
     <mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

     MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
     years...
     Too much hype out there...
     On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
     Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program.
Suggestions?


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"







--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

And, here's the other side of the coin.

It's possible they're being banned, because they uncovered us spy software built into most hard drives.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyberspying/russian-researchers-expose-breakthrough-u-s-spying-program-idUSKBN0LK1QV20150216

On 9/14/2017 10:26 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Mallard,


Here are just a few citations of this issue.  It's not some weird
conspiracy theory.


From Washington Post US Moves To Ban Kaspersky Software


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-ban-use-of-kaspersky-software-in-federal-agencies-amid-concerns-of-russian-espionage/2017/09/13/36b717d0-989e-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html


Ban On Software From BBC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41262049


From NY Times The Russian Company ThatIs A Danger To Our Security

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/04/opinion/kapersky-russia-cybersecurity.html




On 9/14/2017 4:06 AM, Mallard wrote:
Gosh, sounds like when in Italy priests told the people that
communists ate children! ROFL!

Kaspersky is quite good, in fact. Only a bit cumbersome, if anything.

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 14/09/2017 04:37, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:

Hi Quentin and Group,


Be ware of Kapersky!  It was all over the mainstream media that
Kaspersky is from a Russian company and it may pose a threat. Some
businesses and supposedly the NSA are worried that Kaspersky could
contain Trojans or Key loggers.



On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from
Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are
my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this
year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA
and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is
accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of
Kaspersky Anti-Virus:
https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/
<https://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/>


Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and
suggestions, including for anti-virus:
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html
<http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html>

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of
our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx
<https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx>

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has
others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...
<mailto:marrie12@...>> wrote:

    Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender.
    If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
    On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...
    <mailto:randy@...>> wrote:

    MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22
    years...
    Too much hype out there...
    On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
    Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now
available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




 

Travis,

        I'm agnostic about the banning of Kaspersky by the Trump Administration, but the article you point to is 3 years old (almost).  If this were direct punishment for something like this it's highly unlikely it would have taken three years to do it.

--
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     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr

 

 


Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Quentin. Our department of Homeland Security in the US dose not recommend all of us here to use Caspar sky due to the Russian hacking to our election last year. I wouldn't pay them phonies a red cent.n


On 9/13/2017 7:36 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I must admit, on Windows 10, I also use the built in Defender from Microsoft.  This question does come up regularly though, so here are my notes from the last round of conversations on this earlier this year:

There are several anti-virus programs which are accessible with NVDA and some which are partly accessible:

Windows Defender comes with Windows 10 from Microsoft and is accessible.

One user, David Goldfield, has written a comprehensive review of Kaspersky Anti-Virushttps://davidgoldfield.wordpress.com/2016/11/16/kaspersky-antivirus-a-review-for-screen-reader-users/

Another user, Gene, has put together a whole site of information and suggestions, including for anti-virushttp://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html

Sonos is another anti-virus which has been recommended by some of our users: https://www.sophos.com/lp/sophos-home.aspx

If anyone checks those and finds the information out of date, or has others to add, please do chime in!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 8:19 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
Agreed. I just use what comes with my machine which is defender. If you use come sense you won't get a virus.
On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Randy Barnett <randy@...> wrote:

MS Defender is sufficient. I have not had a virus for over 22 years...
Too much hype out there...
On 9/13/2017 2:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:
Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?
 






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



Randy Barnett <randy@...>
 

Scapegoat? If trump is endoersing this it is probly to get people off the russia is my buddy issue that the news keeps portraying as fact when there isnt any.

On 9/14/2017 12:11 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Travis,

        I'm agnostic about the banning of Kaspersky by the Trump Administration, but the article you point to is 3 years old (almost).  If this were direct punishment for something like this it's highly unlikely it would have taken three years to do it.

--
Brian  Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063  (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature)

     The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement.  But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.

            Niels Bohr