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the volume on the creators update is softer
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,
I don't know if it's just me or if the volume in the creators update is softer now. Have any of you noticed that? Everything (speakders and NVDA volume) is set to 100 percent. I was just wondering about the softness of the new update.
Rosemarie
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Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated. Sometimes that happens.
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Rosemarie Chavarria
I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get sighted
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help in doing it.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee Blat Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:14 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated. Sometimes that happens.
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Randy Barnett <randy@...>
press the windows key then type sound. you may have to arrow down to find just sound. press enter. In the box that pops up highlite your defualt sound device. It will say default after it. Now tab to properties. now ctrl + tab to effects or enhancements. then tab to the checkbox that says disable all...You may have to look around in here a little as each manufacturer is a little different.
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On 10/18/2017 4:45 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get sighted
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Gene
You have to open properties after you tab to
it. Press the space bar if it's a button.
Gene
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From: Randy Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is
softer find just sound. press enter. In the box that pops up highlite your defualt sound device. It will say default after it. Now tab to properties. now ctrl + tab to effects or enhancements. then tab to the checkbox that says disable all...You may have to look around in here a little as each manufacturer is a little different. On 10/18/2017 4:45 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: > I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to get sighted > help in doing it. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee > Blat > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:14 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer > > I haven't noticed that, but I did have to fiddle with the audio drivers > quite a bit. It seems that the chipset in this laptop has some idiotic > codecs that get loaded and do weird stuff to the sound, so I had to disable > them. There were driver updates in the creator's update though. Make sure > your enhancements or stuff like that didn't get re-enabled when you updated. > Sometimes that happens. > > > > > >
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Rosemarie Chavarria
I tried those instructions but I think I'll call microsoft tomorrow morning.
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I don't want to have to turn up the speakers halfaw to hear what I'm doing. Thanks for trying to help though. Rosemarie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Barnett Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 4:51 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer press the windows key then type sound. you may have to arrow down to find just sound. press enter. In the box that pops up highlite your defualt sound device. It will say default after it. Now tab to properties. now ctrl + tab to effects or enhancements. then tab to the checkbox that says disable all...You may have to look around in here a little as each manufacturer is a little different. On 10/18/2017 4:45 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote: I don't know how to disable these enhancements. I might have to getre-enabled when you updated. Sometimes that happens.
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Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.
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Rosemarie Chavarria
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this desktop either so I guess I'm stuck with it. Thanks for trying to help though. I'll call Microsoft tomorrow and see if they can figure it out. I sure can't.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee Blat Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 6:52 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.
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Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
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website and get the latest driver see if it solves it.
On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on this --
search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3
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Blee Blat <bleeblat@...>
And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They must be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the realtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not helpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance is for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until I find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at least I can just use that.
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Rosemarie Chavarria
I ended up calling the microsoft disability line and they helped me solve the problem. I tried to set sounds and messed it up by choosing the HP device instead of speakers. Anyway, it's working fine now. Thanks for all your help.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Blee Blat Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 8:23 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They must be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the realtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not helpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance is for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until I find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at least I can just use that.
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Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Austin,
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Thanks very much for that info. I ended up calling microsoft's disability line and they helped me solve the problem. Rosemarie
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Austin Pinto Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:50 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech website and get the latest driver see if it solves it. On 10/19/17, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote: I don't have a laptop but apparently you can't disable enhancements on -- search for me on facebook, google+, orkut.. austinpinto.xaviers@gmail.com follow me on twitter. austinmpinto contact me on skype. austin.pinto3
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The latest driver is still 2.82, I had this driver before the update I am unsure what was installed on both units I have but its not been updated since february this year.
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On 19/10/2017 3:50 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
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well actually july not february.
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Chances are that your effects are on also volumes and such are defaulted, a smattering of privacy settings file associations players, etc are defaulted and I needed to reinstall the klite mega codec pack and set things to how I wanted it codec wise. Also 7zip was set with all extentions to only work on my account that I updated windows with and I had to set it to all things like that.
On 19/10/2017 3:50 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
for all who have audio problems. just try going to the realtech
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Yeah a lot of the laptops now use their own overlays on the realtech drivers the hp uses something called dts this makes speech semi suck but I tried without the realtech device and the sound speakers are so small its like listening to it from a box.
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The hp dts at least sounds nice and spacial audio set to sonic will push up volumes a little to. On my new gegabyte system I am planning to get they have creative overlays sadly on my external soundcard these make speech a bit choppy but music, sfx and games really rock so I will forgive that.
On 19/10/2017 4:22 p.m., Blee Blat wrote:
And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. They must be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamic compression applied. It's less worse than it was with the realtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is not helpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performance is for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers until I find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so at least I can just use that.
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You can turn off dts with sighted help but I'd honestly wouldn't turn it off, the speech is not to bad but the sound sort of sucks without dts I actually like dts better than sps premium or the waves max on del that really sucks, dts is not to bad.
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On 19/10/2017 2:51 p.m., Blee Blat wrote:
And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.
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Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
How much would it cost for a machine of this magnitude?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:04 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer Yeah a lot of the laptops now use their own overlays on the realtech drivers the hp uses something called dts this makes speech semi suck but I tried without the realtech device and the sound speakers are so small its like listening to it from a box. The hp dts at least sounds nice and spacial audio set to sonic will push up volumes a little to. On my new gegabyte system I am planning to get they have creative overlays sadly on my external soundcard these make speech a bit choppy but music, sfx and games really rock so I will forgive that. On 19/10/2017 4:22 p.m., Blee Blat wrote: And even if you do that it's still not likely to work. Theymust be using some on-chip codecs because I'm still getting dynamicrealtek services running, but it's still noticeable. This is nothelpful for most sounds at all. I wonder what the hit for CPU performanceis for this nonsense. I'll continue screwing around with drivers untilI find a fix I guess. The phone doesn't have these artifacts, so atleast I can just use that.
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Brian Moore
Well, on my one laptop so far where I have installed the release of 1709, dell audio came back from whatever section of hell it came from. I got this off once before but it really needs to go. I have another system which is much the same.
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Anyone know how to kill dell audio? it is horid and makes speech pretty awful. Brian. Contact me on skype: brian.moore follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
On 10/19/2017 1:00 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
The latest driver is still 2.82, I had this driver before the update I am unsure what was installed on both units I have but its not been updated since february this year.
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Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Amen to that. its the same with these silly drivers that cut off the end of nvda speech, like what is the reasoning?
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From: "Blee Blat" <bleeblat@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] the volume on the creators update is softer And if you are unlucky enough to have one of these laptops with DTS linked to the realtek audio manager, and no way to disable the "enhancements", then you're stuck going into task manager and finding the startup tab and disabling the realtek audio from there. At least that's what I ended up doing. Plus, to make things worse, Windows onboard sound often defaults to 48000 hz for playback and recording, and that results in pops and crackles for most sounds, because they're expecting 44100 hz. Now to go looking for a portable sound card that also connects to the phone. I don't know why manufacturers think I want my music screwed with. If I want all this compression and stuff I can find an FM radio easily enough.
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Well it will and you need to use sightling help to clear it from its control panel, is del audio that bad, I tried with sightling help for hp but found it like listening to a small box and it didn't sound to good.
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The audio from the screen reader some sounds fade in and out a little but speech is not effected and in fact it seems to improve it on the hp so I thought hell just leave it.
On 19/10/2017 8:34 p.m., Brian Moore wrote:
Well, on my one laptop so far where I have installed the release of 1709, dell audio came back from whatever section of hell it came from. I got this off once before but it really needs to go. I have another system which is much the same.
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