Using Thunderbird filters


Robert Mendoza
 

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.

















Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.


















Robert Mendoza
 

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.



















Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.




















Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.





















Gene
 

What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.


















Gene
 

Didn't you have the same problem months ago.  You should get help by phone or by Skipe or with someone working with you in realtime in some way. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.





















John Isige
 

If some messages aren't getting filtered, then I suspect your rules have
a problem. Another thing that can happen is that sometimes people will
send messages to somebody else and a list, and then if you've filtered
on from: for the list address, for example, those messages will show up
in your inbox because the from: is to the other person. You'd probably
need to create another rule to catch that, if you can find a pattern.


Every once in a while I'll get messages from a list showing up in my
inbox, but usually if you filter on the from: field and use a
significant part of the address, it'll work. For example, I had a filter
set up for the old NVDA list, and I filtered on nvda in the from: field.
When I subscribed to the new list here, the messages started getting
filtered into my nvda folder again.


If you can't figure this out yourself then yeah, I'd probably suggest
skyping, or maybe skyping combined with somebody using NVDA Remote into
your machine so they can look at exactly what's going on and ask
questions if necessary. It depends on how technically-minded you are
though. But the first thing I'd do is check what you're filtering on for
whatever list. Then if you have a message that goes to the folder, and
one that goes to the inbox but shouldn't, check the headers and such,
check what you're filtering on, and try to find out what's different
about it. Because something probably is.

On 10/25/2017 19:15, Gene wrote:
Didn't you have the same problem months ago.  You should get help by
phone or by Skipe or with someone working with you in realtime in some
way.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

*From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:25 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run
now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you
will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You
need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists
are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the
thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into
your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus
is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several
times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right
click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters
process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure
you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run
automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into
the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are
messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you
run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box,
tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to
hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like,
I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the
file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move
stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If
you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder
like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account
name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox,
so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your
inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you
can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash,
whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually
starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it,
then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go
through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash,
whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete
them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's
a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird
though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office.
Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I
exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got
everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly
none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific
folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and
recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work.
That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it
ever since.









Gene
 

In lists, the from line usually shows the actual senders name.  The to line shows the lists name and address.  Many lists have the list name in the subject line.  But the from line isn't the way to sort mail in most lists.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: John Isige
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

If some messages aren't getting filtered, then I suspect your rules have
a problem. Another thing that can happen is that sometimes people will
send messages to somebody else and a list, and then if you've filtered
on from: for the list address, for example, those messages will show up
in your inbox because the from: is to the other person. You'd probably
need to create another rule to catch that, if you can find a pattern.


Every once in a while I'll get messages from a list showing up in my
inbox, but usually if you filter on the from: field and use a
significant part of the address, it'll work. For example, I had a filter
set up for the old NVDA list, and I filtered on nvda in the from: field.
When I subscribed to the new list here, the messages started getting
filtered into my nvda folder again.


If you can't figure this out yourself then yeah, I'd probably suggest
skyping, or maybe skyping combined with somebody using NVDA Remote into
your machine so they can look at exactly what's going on and ask
questions if necessary. It depends on how technically-minded you are
though. But the first thing I'd do is check what you're filtering on for
whatever list. Then if you have a message that goes to the folder, and
one that goes to the inbox but shouldn't, check the headers and such,
check what you're filtering on, and try to find out what's different
about it. Because something probably is.


On 10/25/2017 19:15, Gene wrote:
> Didn't you have the same problem months ago.  You should get help by
> phone or by Skipe or with someone working with you in realtime in some
> way.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Rosemarie Chavarria <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:25 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters
>
> I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run
> now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> I'll give it another shot.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
>>>
>>> HI, Rosemary
>>>
>>> Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you
>>> will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You
>>> need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.
>>>
>>> Robert Mendoza
>>> On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Robert,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists
>>>> are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the
>>>>> thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into
>>>>> your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus
>>>>> is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several
>>>>> times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right
>>>>> click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters
>>>>> process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure
>>>>> you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run
>>>>> automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Robert Mendoza
>>>>> On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>> Hi, John,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into
>>>>>> the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are
>>>>>> messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you
>>>>>> run a filter on a message?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
>>>>>>> 1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Tab to the new button.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box,
>>>>>>> tell it to match nvda.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to
>>>>>>> hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like,
>>>>>>> I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the
>>>>>>> file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move
>>>>>>> stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If
>>>>>>> you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder
>>>>>>> like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account
>>>>>>> name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox,
>>>>>>> so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your
>>>>>>> inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you
>>>>>>> can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash,
>>>>>>> whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually
>>>>>>> starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it,
>>>>>>> then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go
>>>>>>> through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash,
>>>>>>> whatever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi, John,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete
>>>>>>>> them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's
>>>>>>>> a bit clunky.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rosemarie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird
>>>>>>>>> though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office.
>>>>>>>>> Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I
>>>>>>>>> exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got
>>>>>>>>> everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly
>>>>>>>>> none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific
>>>>>>>>> folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and
>>>>>>>>> recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work.
>>>>>>>>> That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it
>>>>>>>>> ever since.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>





Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


Assuming that you have attempted to create the filters by clicking tools/filters/new, be advised that the select a folder aspect is a bit kinky with screen readers.  You must treat that list box like a combo box using alt + down arrow to open the folder list and once selecting the right folder to filter messages into, press either enter or alt + up arrow to close the box and select the folder.


Everyone who is new to Thunderbird (including me) seems to run across this and it is temporarily confusing until you figure out what is going on.



On 10/25/2017 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.





















-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Ron,


I did all those steps and I still can't get messages moved to their proper folders. I've hit enter on all the folders but I'm still having some messages from other lists go to my inbox instead of their proper folders. Why isn't this working for me? In outlook, you just hit the context key and arrow down to "always move messages from" and then the name of the messages.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 7:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


Assuming that you have attempted to create the filters by clicking tools/filters/new, be advised that the select a folder aspect is a bit kinky with screen readers.  You must treat that list box like a combo box using alt + down arrow to open the folder list and once selecting the right folder to filter messages into, press either enter or alt + up arrow to close the box and select the folder.


Everyone who is new to Thunderbird (including me) seems to run across this and it is temporarily confusing until you figure out what is going on.



On 10/25/2017 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.





















-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.




On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.



















Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rosemarie,


I just wonder if the filters are set correctly.  To check this, click tools/filters and highlight a non working rule.  Then click edit and examine what the rule states.  If it looks good--that is to say--if all the specifications are correct, then I don't know what to tell you.  It's worth a check because of that goofy issue with selecting proper folders.



On 10/26/2017 1:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Ron,


I did all those steps and I still can't get messages moved to their proper folders. I've hit enter on all the folders but I'm still having some messages from other lists go to my inbox instead of their proper folders. Why isn't this working for me? In outlook, you just hit the context key and arrow down to "always move messages from" and then the name of the messages.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 7:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


Assuming that you have attempted to create the filters by clicking tools/filters/new, be advised that the select a folder aspect is a bit kinky with screen readers.  You must treat that list box like a combo box using alt + down arrow to open the folder list and once selecting the right folder to filter messages into, press either enter or alt + up arrow to close the box and select the folder.


Everyone who is new to Thunderbird (including me) seems to run across this and it is temporarily confusing until you figure out what is going on.



On 10/25/2017 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.





















-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

that issue of choosing folders sure is goofy. It's so much easier to create filters in outlook.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 10:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Hi Rosemarie,

 

I just wonder if the filters are set correctly.  To check this, click tools/filters and highlight a non working rule.  Then click edit and examine what the rule states.  If it looks good--that is to say--if all the specifications are correct, then I don't know what to tell you.  It's worth a check because of that goofy issue with selecting proper folders.

 

 

On 10/26/2017 1:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Ron,

 

I did all those steps and I still can't get messages moved to their proper folders. I've hit enter on all the folders but I'm still having some messages from other lists go to my inbox instead of their proper folders. Why isn't this working for me? In outlook, you just hit the context key and arrow down to "always move messages from" and then the name of the messages.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 7:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,

 

Assuming that you have attempted to create the filters by clicking tools/filters/new, be advised that the select a folder aspect is a bit kinky with screen readers.  You must treat that list box like a combo box using alt + down arrow to open the folder list and once selecting the right folder to filter messages into, press either enter or alt + up arrow to close the box and select the folder.

 

Everyone who is new to Thunderbird (including me) seems to run across this and it is temporarily confusing until you figure out what is going on.

 

 

On 10/25/2017 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.

 

I'll give it another shot.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,

 

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.











 

 

 

 

 



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

 



-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Gene
 

I should make a possible correction.  I said you need a different rule for every list.  I don't know if that is true.  I don't know if you can put multiple things for a rule to look for such as the names of more than one list.  I believe I've only heard of people using one rule for one list and another rule for another list.  If there is a setting that will allow you to put multiple items in one rule, such as I gave an example of before, you may not be doing it correctly or you may be using the wrong setting.  Others may be able to explain how to do this, or you may just want to create one rule for each list.  It might be more work but since you have written a rule that works on some messages, you know that the rule is working to an extent.  So you may be able to use that suggestion to make a rule, one for each list, that works. 
 
I said before that working with someone in real time would be a good idea.  You say you go through all the steps.  That doesn't mean you do or do correctly.  It means you think you go through all the steps.  No one can be sure what to tell you without every step being listed in a message, every field you fill out or check and uncheck, every combo box you work with, how and what you set it to, etc.  That is why I say you should work with someone in real time.  So you can make a rule and they can hear every step you do.  Either that or record yourself making a rule and sending the recording to the list.  But without those trying to help knowing every step, no one can know or make a properly informed guess about what you are doing incorrectly.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Ron,


I did all those steps and I still can't get messages moved to their proper folders. I've hit enter on all the folders but I'm still having some messages from other lists go to my inbox instead of their proper folders. Why isn't this working for me? In outlook, you just hit the context key and arrow down to "always move messages from" and then the name of the messages.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 7:49 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


Assuming that you have attempted to create the filters by clicking tools/filters/new, be advised that the select a folder aspect is a bit kinky with screen readers.  You must treat that list box like a combo box using alt + down arrow to open the folder list and once selecting the right folder to filter messages into, press either enter or alt + up arrow to close the box and select the folder.


Everyone who is new to Thunderbird (including me) seems to run across this and it is temporarily confusing until you figure out what is going on.



On 10/25/2017 7:25 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

I tried but it didn't work. I selected the rule and tabbed to the run now button and hit enter but it didn't work. This isn't working out.




On 10/25/2017 4:20 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Thanks.


I'll give it another shot.




On 10/25/2017 4:17 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

HI, Rosemary

Under the Tool in the main menu select Message Filters. Then, you will prompted of the list of filtered folders you've created. You need to double check and uncheck the Manual Run.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 7:09 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.





















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Gene
 

Then the question is, what is wrong with the rules that don't work?  Are you sure all the lists have what you tell the rule to look for where you tell it to look?  Are you sure the spelling is exactly correct for every item you are using?  I'm not sure what else might account for some of the rules not working. 
 
It might be that if you wrote out every step for a rule that doesn't work, that someone will be able to find the error.  That is tedious but it may work.  It might be much faster and more likely to find the error to work with someone.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.




On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:
What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Robert,


I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza
On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:
1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:
Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.



















Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,

 

Here are the steps I took to create the rules. I'll use the music list I'm on as an example.

 

1. I went to tools with alt T and hit f for message filters.

2. I tabbed to the new button and hit the space bar on it.

3. I typed the name for my rule. It's called audioourplace. That's the music list I'm on.

4. I unchecked the box that says "manually check for new messages" or something like that.

5. Next, I tabbed to the box that says "match all of the following" and then tabbed to the combo box and chose the "to" field.

6. I tabbed to the box for "contains". Then I tabbed to an edit box and typed audioourplace@....

7. I tabbed to where you choose a folder. I chose the folder for the music list and hit enter on it.

8. I tabbed to the ok button and hit the space bar on it.

9. When I was taken back to the screen where you'd create a new rule, I tabbed to the run now button and hit enter on it. The filter did work for awhile but then I got new messages from that list in my inbox so I don't know where the problem could be.

 

I hope these steps explain better what I was trying to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Then the question is, what is wrong with the rules that don't work?  Are you sure all the lists have what you tell the rule to look for where you tell it to look?  Are you sure the spelling is exactly correct for every item you are using?  I'm not sure what else might account for some of the rules not working. 

 

It might be that if you wrote out every step for a rule that doesn't work, that someone will be able to find the error.  That is tedious but it may work.  It might be much faster and more likely to find the error to work with someone.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:36 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.











 

 

 


Gene
 

It sounds as though you generally did things correctly but you probably shouldn't have unchecked the automatically check for new mail check box.  Check it and see what happens.  If you have set things up correctly as far as you know and something doesn't work, try the only thing that might make a difference assuming everything else has been done correctly.  What is it?  It's automatically check for mail.  Have you seen an explanation for what this setting does?  Most likely, it tells the rule to be applied every time you check for new mail.  Unchecking it probably only causes the rule to be run when you manually tell it to run. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Gene,

 

Here are the steps I took to create the rules. I'll use the music list I'm on as an example.

 

1. I went to tools with alt T and hit f for message filters.

2. I tabbed to the new button and hit the space bar on it.

3. I typed the name for my rule. It's called audioourplace. That's the music list I'm on.

4. I unchecked the box that says "manually check for new messages" or something like that.

5. Next, I tabbed to the box that says "match all of the following" and then tabbed to the combo box and chose the "to" field.

6. I tabbed to the box for "contains". Then I tabbed to an edit box and typed audioourplace@....

7. I tabbed to where you choose a folder. I chose the folder for the music list and hit enter on it.

8. I tabbed to the ok button and hit the space bar on it.

9. When I was taken back to the screen where you'd create a new rule, I tabbed to the run now button and hit enter on it. The filter did work for awhile but then I got new messages from that list in my inbox so I don't know where the problem could be.

 

I hope these steps explain better what I was trying to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Then the question is, what is wrong with the rules that don't work?  Are you sure all the lists have what you tell the rule to look for where you tell it to look?  Are you sure the spelling is exactly correct for every item you are using?  I'm not sure what else might account for some of the rules not working. 

 

It might be that if you wrote out every step for a rule that doesn't work, that someone will be able to find the error.  That is tedious but it may work.  It might be much faster and more likely to find the error to work with someone.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:36 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.











 

 

 


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I haven't seen an explanation for this seting. I'll give it another shot and let you all know what happens.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 10:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

It sounds as though you generally did things correctly but you probably shouldn't have unchecked the automatically check for new mail check box.  Check it and see what happens.  If you have set things up correctly as far as you know and something doesn't work, try the only thing that might make a difference assuming everything else has been done correctly.  What is it?  It's automatically check for mail.  Have you seen an explanation for what this setting does?  Most likely, it tells the rule to be applied every time you check for new mail.  Unchecking it probably only causes the rule to be run when you manually tell it to run. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:46 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Hi, Gene,

 

Here are the steps I took to create the rules. I'll use the music list I'm on as an example.

 

1. I went to tools with alt T and hit f for message filters.

2. I tabbed to the new button and hit the space bar on it.

3. I typed the name for my rule. It's called audioourplace. That's the music list I'm on.

4. I unchecked the box that says "manually check for new messages" or something like that.

5. Next, I tabbed to the box that says "match all of the following" and then tabbed to the combo box and chose the "to" field.

6. I tabbed to the box for "contains". Then I tabbed to an edit box and typed audioourplace@....

7. I tabbed to where you choose a folder. I chose the folder for the music list and hit enter on it.

8. I tabbed to the ok button and hit the space bar on it.

9. When I was taken back to the screen where you'd create a new rule, I tabbed to the run now button and hit enter on it. The filter did work for awhile but then I got new messages from that list in my inbox so I don't know where the problem could be.

 

I hope these steps explain better what I was trying to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Then the question is, what is wrong with the rules that don't work?  Are you sure all the lists have what you tell the rule to look for where you tell it to look?  Are you sure the spelling is exactly correct for every item you are using?  I'm not sure what else might account for some of the rules not working. 

 

It might be that if you wrote out every step for a rule that doesn't work, that someone will be able to find the error.  That is tedious but it may work.  It might be much faster and more likely to find the error to work with someone.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:36 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.







 

 

 


Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,


I didcheck that box and I slightly changed the rule a little bit. This time I went by the subject field and typed the subject of the message and then did the remaining steps for creating the rule. This time it worked.


Rosemarie



On 10/26/2017 10:59 AM, Gene wrote:

It sounds as though you generally did things correctly but you probably shouldn't have unchecked the automatically check for new mail check box.  Check it and see what happens.  If you have set things up correctly as far as you know and something doesn't work, try the only thing that might make a difference assuming everything else has been done correctly.  What is it?  It's automatically check for mail.  Have you seen an explanation for what this setting does?  Most likely, it tells the rule to be applied every time you check for new mail.  Unchecking it probably only causes the rule to be run when you manually tell it to run. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

Hi, Gene,

 

Here are the steps I took to create the rules. I'll use the music list I'm on as an example.

 

1. I went to tools with alt T and hit f for message filters.

2. I tabbed to the new button and hit the space bar on it.

3. I typed the name for my rule. It's called audioourplace. That's the music list I'm on.

4. I unchecked the box that says "manually check for new messages" or something like that.

5. Next, I tabbed to the box that says "match all of the following" and then tabbed to the combo box and chose the "to" field.

6. I tabbed to the box for "contains". Then I tabbed to an edit box and typed audioourplace@....

7. I tabbed to where you choose a folder. I chose the folder for the music list and hit enter on it.

8. I tabbed to the ok button and hit the space bar on it.

9. When I was taken back to the screen where you'd create a new rule, I tabbed to the run now button and hit enter on it. The filter did work for awhile but then I got new messages from that list in my inbox so I don't know where the problem could be.

 

I hope these steps explain better what I was trying to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 3:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Then the question is, what is wrong with the rules that don't work?  Are you sure all the lists have what you tell the rule to look for where you tell it to look?  Are you sure the spelling is exactly correct for every item you are using?  I'm not sure what else might account for some of the rules not working. 

 

It might be that if you wrote out every step for a rule that doesn't work, that someone will be able to find the error.  That is tedious but it may work.  It might be much faster and more likely to find the error to work with someone.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:36 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

I created rules for all the lists that I'm on.

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 5:12 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean some other messages from other lists.  If your rule only applies to messages with one list name, then no other messages will be affected.  You need to make a separate rule for every list.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Thunderbird filters

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I already did all that. Some other messages from the other lists are still going into the inbox. I don't know what else to do.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 10/25/2017 4:07 PM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

subject line is intended to change to avoid confusion of the thread. About your concern for filtering particular message into your inbox in Thunderbird. you have to make sure that your focus is located to the message that is not open yet, then tab several times till the focus is directed in the recipient column. Right click then select Create Filter From. The rest of the filters process is the same as mentioned below by John. Also, make sure you uncheck the filter by manually so that it will run automatically into your corresponding filtered of your choice.

Robert Mendoza

On 10/26/2017 6:36 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


Let's say you want to run a filter on a message that comes into the inbox. I've pretty muchcreated the filters but there are messages till coming into the inbox from other lists. How do you run a filter on a message?


Thanks.


Rosemarie



On 10/25/2017 3:03 PM, John Isige wrote:

1. Go to the tools menu, pick message filters.


2. Tab to the new button.


3. Fill in whatever rules you want, e.g. from in the combo box, tell it to match nvda.


4. For the next two combo boxes, it will probably be easiest to hit alt-down arrow and expand them. Just pick whatever you like, I move mine to a folder called nvda that I made.


5. To make a folder, just pick folder from the new menu in the file menu, do that before you do a filter if you want to move stuff, because the folder has to exist for you to pick it. If you want the folder in the main account, i.e. another folder like inbox, before you make the folder, highlight your account name with the arrows. If you want everything under your inbox, so you have to hit right arrow to expand folders, highlight your inbox. The difference is that if you highlight the account, you can down arrow, so you'll get inbox, your folder, sent, trash, whatever. If you do it highlighting the inbox, inbox usually starts collapsed and you have to hit right arrow to expand it, then you hit down arrow to get to those folders, you'll go through whatever you made, then you'll get back to sent, trash, whatever.


If that's confusing somehow, feel free to ask questions.


On 10/25/2017 13:26, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, John,


How do you create filters in thunderbird or do you just delete them after reading or replying to them? Outlook is ok but It's a bit clunky.


Rosemarie




On 10/25/2017 10:02 AM, John Isige wrote:

Microsoft's various mail programs have always been weird though. I used to use Outlook, the one that came in Office. Then I had to upgrade or migrate machines or whatever. So I exported mail and everything just like you're supposed to. Got everything installed, imported into the new Outlook. Suddenly none of my filtering rules to send messages to specific folders would work. So I literally deleted them all and recreated them from scratch, and they still wouldn't work. That's when I switched to Thunderbird and I've been using it ever since.