Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off
system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if
people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program
like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you
aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files but are you sure
they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is
anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload
Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about
that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression
is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from
the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs
including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish
to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another
reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many
times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to
quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
Another option may be System File Checker but I
don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else
will.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and
running still same problem I can't do a system restore I forgot I
turned it off a long time ago can any one suggest anything else? I
don't want to reload windows unless I have to really need to get this
issue resolved
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For some reason after installing Win 10 fall creator update on my Win 10 system I could not install any windows updates. After trying numerous possible solutions including a call to the disability help desk I decided to reinstall Windows 10 fall creator. I did this by using the Windows media tool to download and create a Windows 10 DVD. I then did a install from the DVD and during the setup there is a option to keep all apps and personal files. After the install completed my problem was solved and none of my programs, apps and personal files were effected. I had to do no reinstall of such things as firefox, thunderbird, Open book, Jaws and NVDA. So again to keep your installed programs and apps and all personal files make sure tthe keep all apps and personal files is checked.
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Hello the dll registered correctly
lessoned learned don't touch system restore
I am never doing that again
system store will be left on
from hear on out.
On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
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Its unfortunate that so many
people either turn off system restore or never check to make
sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to
revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll
Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if
you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files
but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did
you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows
10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all
your programs installed. I don't know anything about that
option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My
impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps
everything from the old installation that is necessary to run
your already installed programs including the old programs.
Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But
I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion
program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how
many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be
likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't
available.
Another option may be System File
Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss
it. Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running
still
same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time
ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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Hello
I do have images of my hard drive I used active@disk imaging software really really good back up program I might add
how ever stupid me didn't make a image of my windows 7 hd I had to jump down to windows7 because windows10 doesn't support my chip set fore my graphics and i do play minecraft alot when my sited friends are over and I couldn't get it to run using windows10 you would think with me using computers fore over 30 years that I would know stuff like this and I do I just wasn't thinking properly ugh Hank
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On 10/30/2017 3:21 PM, Don H wrote: For some reason after installing Win 10 fall creator update on my Win 10 system I could not install any windows updates. After trying numerous possible solutions including a call to the disability help desk I decided to reinstall Windows 10 fall creator. I did this by using the Windows media tool to download and create a Windows 10 DVD. I then did a install from the DVD and during the setup there is a option to keep all apps and personal files. After the install completed my problem was solved and none of my programs, apps and personal files were effected. I had to do no reinstall of such things as firefox, thunderbird, Open book, Jaws and NVDA. So again to keep your installed programs and apps and all personal files make sure tthe keep all apps and personal files is checked.
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I'm not sure what happened. I thought you
said you tried to register the files and there was a problem. Did you try
again or differently?
Also, along with system restore, it's a good idea
to use a registry backup program. I don't think Erunt works fully with
Windows 10 but others may suggest other programs or correct me if I'm wrong
about Erunt.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello the dll registered correctly
lessoned learned don't touch system restore
I am never doing that again
system store will be left on
from hear on out.
On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn
off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing
if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a
program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore
on if you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files but are you
sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if
there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you
can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know
anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is
available. My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from
the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs
including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish
to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another
reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how
many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very
likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
Another option may be System File Checker but I
don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else
will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and
running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I
turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything
else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really
need to get this issue resolved
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I got the dlls to register
I was missing part of the command that still didn't fix the problem
what registrey back programs would you recommend?
On 10/30/2017 5:28 PM, Gene wrote:
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I'm not sure what happened. I
thought you said you tried to register the files and there was
a problem. Did you try again or differently?
Also, along with system restore,
it's a good idea to use a registry backup program. I don't
think Erunt works fully with Windows 10 but others may suggest
other programs or correct me if I'm wrong about Erunt.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello the dll registered correctly
lessoned learned don't touch system restore
I am never doing that again
system store will be left on
from hear on out.
On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Its unfortunate that so many
people either turn off system restore or never check to make
sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way
to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like
Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore
on if you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the
files but are you sure they are still there in the first
place? Did you check to see if there is anything to
register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload
Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know
anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it
is available. My impression is that it places a clean
version of
Windows on your machine but
keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary
to run your already installed programs including the old
programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to
comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using
another reversion program to make sure system restore is
on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when
System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly
solve a problem but it isn't available.
Another option may be System
File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to
discuss it. Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and
running still
same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time
ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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I don't follow the subject enough to recommend
one. Erunt used to be popular and it still probably is for those not using
Windows 10. I don't know if this is still the case, but for awhile, Erunt
didn't work fully with Windows 10. Others may know of a program or may
know if Erunt has been updated.
Gene
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
I got the dlls to register
I was missing part of the command that
still didn't fix the problem what registrey back programs would you
recommend?
On 10/30/2017 5:28 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what happened. I thought you
said you tried to register the files and there was a problem. Did you
try again or differently?
Also, along with system restore, it's a good idea
to use a registry backup program. I don't think Erunt works fully with
Windows 10 but others may suggest other programs or correct me if I'm wrong
about Erunt.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello the dll registered correctly
lessoned learned don't touch system restore
I am never doing that again
system store will be left on
from hear on out.
On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn
off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one
thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images
or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System
Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files but are you
sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if
there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you
can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know
anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is
available. My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything
from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed
programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all
this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't
using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I
don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be
likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't
available.
Another option may be System File Checker but I
don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone
else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and
running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I
turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything
else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really
need to get this issue
resolved
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Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky
it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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i would say. if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly its time to reload windows or restore from an image. you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may show up once you patch this one. i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all
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On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote: Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote: Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
-- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.
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On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote: i would say. if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly its time to reload windows or restore from an image. you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may show up once you patch this one. i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all
On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote: Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
-- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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I reloaded windows and the same thing happened
see my other post something is broke some where
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On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote: I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.
On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say. if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly its time to reload windows or restore from an image. you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may show up once you patch this one. i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all
On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote: Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
-- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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What happens if you uninstall JFW 2018 and reregister the .DLL files? If you really want to isolate this issue, you need to do one thing at a time, i.e. reinstall Windows if necessary, then install NVDA. if NVDA works, install JFW 18. Run it. Then run NVDA. If NVDA still works, you can assume it's JFW 2018 causing some sort of problem, or you can install it and run it and then run NVDA and see if it breaks again. To be fair, I have no answer for you at any step. If you install Windows and then install NVDA and you still get the error, I don't have the solution, though I'd register the .DLL files at that point and see if it fixes it myself. But at least you'll be able to find out where the problem is. If it's JFW 2018 causing it I'd imagine that would be something they should provide a fix for, as it could very well affect other things besides NVDA.
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On 10/31/2017 0:00, The Wolf wrote: I reloaded windows and the same thing happened
see my other post something is broke some where
On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.
On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say. if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly its time to reload windows or restore from an image. you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may show up once you patch this one. i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all
On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote: Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
-- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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I had a similar issue early on, I was doing some beta map testing for dolphin and found that the reader when running with some games well I could easily get past the game window, ie it just wasn't there, the reader lost focus, I alt tab away from the thing or switched windows and it was gone.
I read online, did a virus scan, did a full reformat.
That did not fix it.
So I pulled up a folder of the test maps, installed them and kept deleting the maps till I found the one that caused the issue.
I was able to report the issue to dolphin and they fixed it.
After that time though I was put off testing maps.
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On 31/10/2017 7:45 p.m., John Isige wrote: What happens if you uninstall JFW 2018 and reregister the .DLL files? If you really want to isolate this issue, you need to do one thing at a time, i.e. reinstall Windows if necessary, then install NVDA. if NVDA works, install JFW 18. Run it. Then run NVDA. If NVDA still works, you can assume it's JFW 2018 causing some sort of problem, or you can install it and run it and then run NVDA and see if it breaks again. To be fair, I have no answer for you at any step. If you install Windows and then install NVDA and you still get the error, I don't have the solution, though I'd register the .DLL files at that point and see if it fixes it myself. But at least you'll be able to find out where the problem is. If it's JFW 2018 causing it I'd imagine that would be something they should provide a fix for, as it could very well affect other things besides NVDA.
On 10/31/2017 0:00, The Wolf wrote:
I reloaded windows and the same thing happened
see my other post something is broke some where
On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.
On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say. if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly its time to reload windows or restore from an image. you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may show up once you patch this one. i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all
On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote: Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
-- [Image NVDA certified expert] Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Did you try the idea of re installing nvda but using the old settings? Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:25 PM Subject: [nvda] fixing error message? Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression is that it places a clean version of Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else will. Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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It depends how dirty the way they make the software accessible is, Often if a program is important and the maker won't fix it, screenreader makers need to find a working solution outside of the established norms, and that iswhen odd things start to happen. which is what worries me about the Firefox idea and indeed about edge and universal Apps, we may have lived through the reliable access times and be embarking on a new voyage of discovery. Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message? I had a similar issue early on, I was doing some beta map testing for dolphin and found that the reader when running with some games well I could easily get past the game window, ie it just wasn't there, the reader lost focus, I alt tab away from the thing or switched windows and it was gone.
I read online, did a virus scan, did a full reformat.
That did not fix it.
So I pulled up a folder of the test maps, installed them and kept deleting the maps till I found the one that caused the issue.
I was able to report the issue to dolphin and they fixed it.
After that time though I was put off testing maps.
On 31/10/2017 7:45 p.m., John Isige wrote:
What happens if you uninstall JFW 2018 and reregister the .DLL files? If you really want to isolate this issue, you need to do one thing at a time, i.e. reinstall Windows if necessary, then install NVDA. if NVDA works, install JFW 18. Run it. Then run NVDA. If NVDA still works, you can assume it's JFW 2018 causing some sort of problem, or you can install it and run it and then run NVDA and see if it breaks again. To be fair, I have no answer for you at any step. If you install Windows and then install NVDA and you still get the error, I don't have the solution, though I'd register the .DLL files at that point and see if it fixes it myself. But at least you'll be able to find out where the problem is. If it's JFW 2018 causing it I'd imagine that would be something they should provide a fix for, as it could very well affect other things besides NVDA.
On 10/31/2017 0:00, The Wolf wrote:
I reloaded windows and the same thing happened
see my other post something is broke some where
On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.
On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say. if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly its time to reload windows or restore from an image. you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may show up once you patch this one. i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all
On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi
Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.
there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.
Gene nz
On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote: Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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I uninstalled nvda, removed all freedom scientific products I then re installed nvda, and jaws 18 and thus far it appears to be fixed. at this point I am not going to touch jaws 2018 at least on windows7 I have no idea what was going on with it but from what I can determan jaws2018 seems to be the colprate any idea why jaws 2018 breaks nvda? Hank
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On 10/31/2017 2:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression is that it places a clean version of Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else will. Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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Maybe it is using the same dll to hook into the system and when its inactive it does not remove its hooks and nvda thus cannot cope?? Its really a question for somebody who knows the low level stuff of both screenreaders. Might be worth reporting it to the Jaws and nvda relevent lists in case its easy to fix.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message? I uninstalled nvda, removed all freedom scientific products I then re installed nvda, and jaws 18 and thus far it appears to be fixed. at this point I am not going to touch jaws 2018 at least on windows7 I have no idea what was going on with it but from what I can determan jaws2018 seems to be the colprate any idea why jaws 2018 breaks nvda? Hank
On 10/31/2017 2:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think. Brian
bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression is that it places a clean version of Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else will. Gene ----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem
I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago
can any one suggest anything else?
I don't want to reload windows unless I have to
really need to get this issue resolved
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