fixing error message?


 

Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved


Gene
 

Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on.  it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back.  But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program. 
 
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place?  Did you check to see if there is anything to register?  In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed.  I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available.  My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs.  Others who know more about all this may wish to comment.  But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on.  I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
 
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it.  Perhaps someone else will.
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved





Don H
 

For some reason after installing Win 10 fall creator update on my Win 10 system I could not install any windows updates. After trying numerous possible solutions including a call to the disability help desk I decided to reinstall Windows 10 fall creator.
I did this by using the Windows media tool to download and create a Windows 10 DVD. I then did a install from the DVD and during the setup there is a option to keep all apps and personal files. After the install completed my problem was solved and none of my programs, apps and personal files were effected. I had to do no reinstall of such things as firefox, thunderbird, Open book, Jaws and NVDA. So again to keep your installed programs and apps and all personal files make sure tthe keep all apps and personal files is checked.


 

Hello the dll registered correctly

lessoned learned don't touch system restore

I am never doing that again

system store will be left on

from hear on out.

On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:

Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on.  it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back.  But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program. 
 
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place?  Did you check to see if there is anything to register?  In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed.  I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available.  My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs.  Others who know more about all this may wish to comment.  But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on.  I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
 
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it.  Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






 

Hello

I do have images of my hard drive I used active@disk imaging software really really good back up program I might add

how ever stupid me didn't make a image of my windows 7 hd
I had to jump down to windows7 because windows10 doesn't support my chip set fore my graphics
and i do play minecraft alot when my sited friends are over and I couldn't get it to run using windows10
you would think with me using computers fore over 30 years that I would know stuff like this
and I do I just wasn't thinking properly
ugh
Hank

On 10/30/2017 3:21 PM, Don H wrote:
For some reason after installing Win 10 fall creator update on my Win 10 system I could not install any windows updates.  After trying numerous possible solutions including a call to the disability help desk I decided to reinstall Windows 10 fall creator.
I did this by using the Windows media tool to download and create a Windows 10 DVD.  I then did a install from the DVD and during the setup there is a option to keep all apps and personal files. After the install completed my problem was solved and none of my programs, apps and personal files were effected.  I had to do no reinstall of such things as firefox, thunderbird, Open book, Jaws and NVDA.    So again to keep your installed programs and apps and all personal files make sure tthe keep all apps and personal files is checked.




Gene
 

I'm not sure what happened.  I thought you said you tried to register the files and there was a problem.  Did you try again or differently?
 
Also, along with system restore, it's a good idea to use a registry backup program.  I don't think Erunt works fully with Windows 10 but others may suggest other programs or correct me if I'm wrong about Erunt.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello the dll registered correctly

lessoned learned don't touch system restore

I am never doing that again

system store will be left on

from hear on out.

On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on.  it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back.  But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program. 
 
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place?  Did you check to see if there is anything to register?  In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed.  I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available.  My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs.  Others who know more about all this may wish to comment.  But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on.  I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
 
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it.  Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






 

I got the dlls to register

I was missing part of the command that still didn't fix the problem what registrey back programs would you recommend?
On 10/30/2017 5:28 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm not sure what happened.  I thought you said you tried to register the files and there was a problem.  Did you try again or differently?
 
Also, along with system restore, it's a good idea to use a registry backup program.  I don't think Erunt works fully with Windows 10 but others may suggest other programs or correct me if I'm wrong about Erunt.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello the dll registered correctly

lessoned learned don't touch system restore

I am never doing that again

system store will be left on

from hear on out.

On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on.  it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back.  But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program. 
 
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place?  Did you check to see if there is anything to register?  In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed.  I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available.  My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs.  Others who know more about all this may wish to comment.  But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on.  I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
 
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it.  Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved







Gene
 

I don't follow the subject enough to recommend one.  Erunt used to be popular and it still probably is for those not using Windows 10.  I don't know if this is still the case, but for awhile, Erunt didn't work fully with Windows 10.  Others may know of a program or may know if Erunt has been updated.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?

I got the dlls to register

I was missing part of the command that still didn't fix the problem what registrey back programs would you recommend?
On 10/30/2017 5:28 PM, Gene wrote:
I'm not sure what happened.  I thought you said you tried to register the files and there was a problem.  Did you try again or differently?
 
Also, along with system restore, it's a good idea to use a registry backup program.  I don't think Erunt works fully with Windows 10 but others may suggest other programs or correct me if I'm wrong about Erunt.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello the dll registered correctly

lessoned learned don't touch system restore

I am never doing that again

system store will be left on

from hear on out.

On 10/30/2017 3:12 PM, Gene wrote:
Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on.  it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back.  But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program. 
 
You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place?  Did you check to see if there is anything to register?  In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed.  I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available.  My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs.  Others who know more about all this may wish to comment.  But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on.  I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.
 
Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it.  Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?

Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved







Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






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Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...>
 

i would say.
if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly
its time to reload windows or restore from an image.
you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may
show up once you patch this one.
i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all

On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try
the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it
is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are
needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain
files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






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I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.

On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say.
if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly
its time to reload windows or restore from an image.
you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may
show up once you patch this one.
i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all

On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try
the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it
is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are
needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain
files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






--
[Image NVDA certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.


 

I reloaded windows and the same thing happened

see my other post
something is broke some where

On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on another drive.




On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say.
if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly
its time to reload windows or restore from an image.
you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may
show up once you patch this one.
i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all

On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble shooting try
the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly the way it
is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files that are
needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for certain
files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.



John Isige
 

What happens if you uninstall JFW 2018 and reregister the .DLL files? If
you really want to isolate this issue, you need to do one thing at a
time, i.e. reinstall Windows if necessary, then install NVDA. if NVDA
works, install JFW 18. Run it. Then run NVDA. If NVDA still works, you
can assume it's JFW 2018 causing some sort of problem, or you can
install it and run it and then run NVDA and see if it breaks again. To
be fair, I have no answer for you at any step. If you install Windows
and then install NVDA and you still get the error, I don't have the
solution, though I'd register the .DLL files at that point and see if it
fixes it myself. But at least you'll be able to find out where the
problem is. If it's JFW 2018 causing it I'd imagine that would be
something they should provide a fix for, as it could very well affect
other things besides NVDA.

On 10/31/2017 0:00, The Wolf wrote:
I reloaded windows and the same thing happened

see my other post
something is broke some where

On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that
fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full
reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on
another drive.




On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say.
if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly
its time to reload windows or restore from an image.
you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may
show up once you patch this one.
i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all

On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble
shooting try
the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly
the way it
is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files
that are
needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for
certain
files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running
still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are
in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of
the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which
locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near
you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the
NVDA expert
exam.





 

I had a similar issue early on, I was doing some beta map testing for dolphin and  found that the reader when running with some games well I could easily get past the game window, ie it just wasn't there, the reader lost focus, I alt tab away from the thing or switched windows and it was gone.

I read online, did a virus scan, did a full reformat.

That did not fix it.

So I pulled up a folder of the test maps, installed them and kept deleting the maps till I found the one that caused the issue.

I was able to report the issue to dolphin and they fixed it.

After that time though I was put off testing maps.

On 31/10/2017 7:45 p.m., John Isige wrote:
What happens if you uninstall JFW 2018 and reregister the .DLL files? If
you really want to isolate this issue, you need to do one thing at a
time, i.e. reinstall Windows if necessary, then install NVDA. if NVDA
works, install JFW 18. Run it. Then run NVDA. If NVDA still works, you
can assume it's JFW 2018 causing some sort of problem, or you can
install it and run it and then run NVDA and see if it breaks again. To
be fair, I have no answer for you at any step. If you install Windows
and then install NVDA and you still get the error, I don't have the
solution, though I'd register the .DLL files at that point and see if it
fixes it myself. But at least you'll be able to find out where the
problem is. If it's JFW 2018 causing it I'd imagine that would be
something they should provide a fix for, as it could very well affect
other things besides NVDA.


On 10/31/2017 0:00, The Wolf wrote:
I reloaded windows and the same thing happened

see my other post
something is broke some where

On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that
fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full
reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on
another drive.




On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say.
if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly
its time to reload windows or restore from an image.
you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may
show up once you patch this one.
i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all

On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble
shooting try
the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly
the way it
is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files
that are
needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for
certain
files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running
still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






--
[Image NVDA          certified expert]
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are
in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of
the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which
locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near
you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the
NVDA expert
exam.








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Did you try the idea of re installing nvda but using the old settings?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 9:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?


Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved




Brian's Mail list account
 

I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.

You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.

Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
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From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?


Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved


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It depends how dirty the way they make the software accessible is, Often if a program is important and the maker won't fix it, screenreader makers need to find a working solution outside of the established norms, and that iswhen odd things start to happen. which is what worries me about the Firefox idea and indeed about edge and universal Apps, we may have lived through the reliable access times and be embarking on a new voyage of discovery.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


I had a similar issue early on, I was doing some beta map testing for dolphin and found that the reader when running with some games well I could easily get past the game window, ie it just wasn't there, the reader lost focus, I alt tab away from the thing or switched windows and it was gone.

I read online, did a virus scan, did a full reformat.

That did not fix it.

So I pulled up a folder of the test maps, installed them and kept deleting the maps till I found the one that caused the issue.

I was able to report the issue to dolphin and they fixed it.

After that time though I was put off testing maps.




On 31/10/2017 7:45 p.m., John Isige wrote:
What happens if you uninstall JFW 2018 and reregister the .DLL files? If
you really want to isolate this issue, you need to do one thing at a
time, i.e. reinstall Windows if necessary, then install NVDA. if NVDA
works, install JFW 18. Run it. Then run NVDA. If NVDA still works, you
can assume it's JFW 2018 causing some sort of problem, or you can
install it and run it and then run NVDA and see if it breaks again. To
be fair, I have no answer for you at any step. If you install Windows
and then install NVDA and you still get the error, I don't have the
solution, though I'd register the .DLL files at that point and see if it
fixes it myself. But at least you'll be able to find out where the
problem is. If it's JFW 2018 causing it I'd imagine that would be
something they should provide a fix for, as it could very well affect
other things besides NVDA.


On 10/31/2017 0:00, The Wolf wrote:
I reloaded windows and the same thing happened

see my other post
something is broke some where

On 10/30/2017 9:58 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
I agree, A full reformat will work, resets I am not sure if that
fixes fully or not, and since the windows install disks talk a full
reformat is probably best especially if your user stored stuff is on
another drive.




On 31/10/2017 3:45 p.m., Austin Pinto wrote:
i would say.
if the condition has gone so far that you cant even run nvda properly
its time to reload windows or restore from an image.
you may be able to patch the wound but there may be others which may
show up once you patch this one.
i would not waste time on reg backup restores and all

On 10/31/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


Not sure but up on my nvda audio tutorials page under trouble
shooting try
the fix for the unknown issue It will have to be typed in exactly
the way it
is on the page. it might fix your issue as it registers a few files
that are
needed. If you are lucky it might fix your problem.


there is a link in this email to my website. I know it does it for
certain
files that are needed by nvda.


Gene nz

On 10/31/2017 10:25 AM, The Wolf wrote:
Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running
still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved






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I uninstalled nvda, removed all freedom scientific products
I then re installed nvda, and jaws 18 and thus far it appears to be fixed.
at this point I am not going to touch jaws 2018
at least on windows7
I have no idea what was going on with it but from what I can determan jaws2018
seems to be the colprate
any idea why jaws 2018 breaks nvda?
Hank

On 10/31/2017 2:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on.  it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back.  But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.

You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place?  Did you check to see if there is anything to register?  In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed.  I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available.  My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs.  Others who know more about all this may wish to comment.  But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on.  I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.

Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it.  Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?


Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved







.


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Maybe it is using the same dll to hook into the system and when its inactive it does not remove its hooks and nvda thus cannot cope??
Its really a question for somebody who knows the low level stuff of both screenreaders.
Might be worth reporting it to the Jaws and nvda relevent lists in case its easy to fix.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "The Wolf" <hank.smith966@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


I uninstalled nvda, removed all freedom scientific products
I then re installed nvda, and jaws 18 and thus far it appears to be fixed.
at this point I am not going to touch jaws 2018
at least on windows7
I have no idea what was going on with it but from what I can determan jaws2018
seems to be the colprate
any idea why jaws 2018 breaks nvda?
Hank

On 10/31/2017 2:31 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I thought I read he was using Windows 7, and the error could be due to so many things of course. often rolling back only works till the offending update is reinstalled by whatever put it on before, so it will pay in the long run to attempt to pin it down I think.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] fixing error message?


Its unfortunate that so many people either turn off system restore or never check to make sure if its on. it's one thing if people have another way to revert the machine such as disk images or a program like Roll Back. But it's a bad idea not to have System Restore on if you aren't using any reversion program.

You said you registered the files but are you sure they are still there in the first place? Did you check to see if there is anything to register? In Windows 10, as I understand it, you can reload Windows and keep all your programs installed. I don't know anything about that option but I've seen discussions that it is available. My impression is that it places a clean version of
Windows on your machine but keeps everything from the old installation that is necessary to run your already installed programs including the old programs. Others who know more about all this may wish to comment. But I would strongly urge anyone who isn't using another reversion program to make sure system restore is on. I don't know how many times I've seen instances when System Restore would be likely or very likely to quickly solve a problem but it isn't available.

Another option may be System File Checker but I don't know enough about that option to discuss it. Perhaps someone else will.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: The Wolf
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] fixing error message?


Hello I reregistered the dlls and tried to get nvda up and running still
same problem

I can't do a system restore I forgot I turned it off a long time ago

can any one suggest anything else?

I don't want to reload windows unless I have to

really need to get this issue resolved







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